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Fallout New Vegas |OT| Obsidian does what Bethesdon't

Labadal

Member
I beat Honest Hearts and thought it was the best of the 3 DLCs I have played so far. I liked the story and the characters, although it would have been cooler if there was a longer game about this. The way it is now, nothing is fleshed out enough.

I played the other DLCs because I wanted more Obsidian Fallout, but I don't like them as much as HH. DM was cool but the whole atmosphere was ruined by the collars. I hate those with a passion. OWB was just silly. I didn't dislike it and I guess it was different enough. They were just not on the level of HH, which I would say is equal in quality to the main game. Only Lonesome Road left.
 
Honestly on paper he sounds like a good choice, but if he's in charge then he's controlling everyone through fear of his upgraded Securitron army. Sure you would have all your freedom, but at the cost of a militarized robot always behind your back. It would turn New Vegas into somewhat of a police state.

No one really minds the securitrons though. In-game at least. House isn't the type to police people.
 

Shengar

Member
Honestly on paper he sounds like a good choice, but if he's in charge then he's controlling everyone through fear of his upgraded Securitron army. Sure you would have all your freedom, but at the cost of a militarized robot always behind your back. It would turn New Vegas into somewhat of a police state.

Mr. House is authoritarian, but he doesn't control every aspect of life of New Vegas citizen as long as they don't cross his interest. He also a man of principle, and play by the rule. With his money and resources he could easily force the Vegas Vault people out by force but he didn't and he won it by gambling. Above all, he only love Vegas, so even with Securitrons he wouldn't expand his border unless it's necessary.

The situation with NCR isn't all good either. It is very easy to know that there are rampant corruption within their government. Many NPC in New Vegas also talk how the NCR spread to thin at the risk of being collapsed from it. Aaron Kimball, the current president of NCR is a former general, and he appeal his popularity to the masses by launching military campaign and expansion instead of solidifying and consolidating NCR resources from the inside. This has increased jingoism within NCR, and with them winning it is very probable for them to turn into more militaristic (and Kimball being live-time president isn't too far fetched either considering Tandi serve the office until her death).

I wouldn't defend the Caesar Legion, but I only want to said that it is very unfortunate for them to become a shallow type evil faction due to content cut Obsidian must done because development time constraint. Out of the the major factions in New Vegas, only them that you can't get the full picture of by only playing the game. You must search interview or what Josh Sawyer have said about them on the internet.

In short, I don't think you could easily ruled out Mr. House from winning the game. He has vision and know where to bring New Vegas (and in his dream, humanity later) in the future. Remember that the world of Fallout is in ruin, and strong leadership is necessary. Even NCR have Tandi that served as president until her death. As much as I want to support NCR (and I did during my first playthrough), Aaron Kimball is a shit of a leader. I guess we really must give kudos to obsidion for making the major factions have so much negatives and positives to balance each other.
 
Hey guys, I've been playing through New Vegas again to get through my Steam backlog and I was just wondering: is there a general consensus as to which ending is the most ideal? Obviously Caesar's Legion and Mr. House are out of the question, so which would be the lesser of two evils between Yes Man and the NCR? When I first played through it I went with the NCR because they seemed like the de facto good guys at the time despite their flaws, but this time I'm leaning more towards the independent route. This would be a much easier decision if there wasn't so much of a morally grey area to navigate (which I think is great on Obsidian's part), but given the circumstances in the game world which of the two would benefit New Vegas the most?

Who better to rule New Vegas than you? That's the route I always go. Plus, Yes Man is voiced by Dave Foley and he's aces!
 

SA007

Banned
Guys are the dlcs in NV any good. I mean how are they if we compare them to the dlcs of fo3.
BTW is there any sale going on for NV ultimate edition anywhere?
 
Guys are the dlcs in NV any good. I mean how are they if we compare them to the dlcs of fo3.
BTW is there any sale going on for NV ultimate edition anywhere?
1. Ten times better than anything in FO3 by default heyooooo. Seriosuly though, each DLC quest area will take between four and eight hours to complete and are full stories on their own combined with integrated gear and Mojave Wasteland lore. Really really really worth it. Two of them (Old World Blues and Lonesome Road) are some of the best environments in the game. Buy them all. Even the lame stash packs- it will allow you to play the most with mods that usually require all.

2. Winter sale on Steam will see it drop to 75% off, I doubt it will be in the Halloween sale.
 

SA007

Banned
Thanks guys for the replies. Apart from steam if you guys come over to any sale on other sites then please pm me or let me know.I am looking for the ultimate edition.
 

Labadal

Member
Thanks guys for the replies. Apart from steam if you guys come over to any sale on other sites then please pm me or let me know.I am looking for the ultimate edition.

I'll post it here if I see a deal. Should see the thread pop up in your subscribed threads list.
 

vladdamad

Member
Thinking of getting back into this game with a fun idea for a character build, would you guys think that roleplaying Tyrion Lannister will be a viable option here? That means an extreme focus on charisma related stats, science, maybe lockpicking/sneak. A little bit of melee but the goal will be to mostly focus on recruiting companions to do the fighting for me.

Also, hope this isn't too off-topic, but would anyone have any suggestions for other games like this? What I love the most about New Vegas is the huge amount of variety in builds and approaches to quests, the way you can achieve each task in a different way. I tried Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines, and enjoyed it for those aspects as well, so anything similar to these games would be great!
 

Tyrus

Banned
Returned to playing NV after a five month break; want to finish my latest and last playthrough before Fallout 4 launches.

I'm half-way through Dead Money with a 7MB save file and the crashes and frame-rate issues are beginning to become more frequent, as several people warned me about when I started playing the Ultimate Edition (PS3).

Is there any way to lessen these issues besides clearing the cache at the main menu and turning off the Internet/Automatic Time/Radio/Radio Volume/Autosave? Or am I doomed when my save file goes past 10MB?
 
Thinking of getting back into this game with a fun idea for a character build, would you guys think that roleplaying Tyrion Lannister will be a viable option here? That means an extreme focus on charisma related stats, science, maybe lockpicking/sneak. A little bit of melee but the goal will be to mostly focus on recruiting companions to do the fighting for me.
Super viable. My Gordon Freeman character had much the same, except instead of melee I went with Energy Weapons and Guns. I find that with high charisma, speech, and intelligence you can almost assuredly convince anyone to bend to your will or intuit your way around a situation. Not to spoil anything, but even the mandatory end game boss sequence can be completed as a pacifist with a few of those traits maxed out. With a big brain, you can impress almost everyone in the Mojave, and outright violence is mitigated once you get some companions- especially a certain forlorn sniper you meet early in the game. I loved melee too by the way, katana 4 lyfe.
 
Hey I'm completely new to the Fallout series. Just started playing New Vegas on PS3.
What's the recommended difficulty setting for a first timer?

I'm currently playing on normal/HC mode off. So far this game has been pretty easy. Just finished the quest where you solve the mystery behind the disappearance of Boone's wife in Novac. Never died once so far in this game.

Does this game become more difficult or should I switch to hard?
 

Unai

Member
Hey I'm completely new to the Fallout series. Just started playing New Vegas on PS3.
What's the recommended difficulty setting for a first timer?

I'm currently playing on normal/HC mode off. So far this game has been pretty easy. Just finished the quest where you solve the mystery behind the disappearance of Boone's wife in Novac. Never died once so far in this game.

Does this game become more difficult or should I switch to hard?

The only thing that Hard does is making the enemies take more damage to kill and you take less damage to die. Personally, normal/hardcore is the way I like best, and I've played for over 300 hours.
 
Hey I'm completely new to the Fallout series. Just started playing New Vegas on PS3.
What's the recommended difficulty setting for a first timer?

I'm currently playing on normal/HC mode off. So far this game has been pretty easy. Just finished the quest where you solve the mystery behind the disappearance of Boone's wife in Novac. Never died once so far in this game.

Does this game become more difficult or should I switch to hard?
That sounds right to me. I've found Hard throws some crazy damage numbers at you and I found myself reloading a lot.... But I also haven't played a console version since release so there's that.

In the 200+ hours I've never played with Hardcore mode on, I don't really find it compelling.
 

Mistel

Banned
Does this game become more difficult or should I switch to hard?
New Vegas works on level scaling with the higher levels meaning you meet stronger and better equipped enemies you're still in early game stages so you've not really meet any tough enemies. As the game is rather generous with the guidance toward avoiding the tougher enemies with the path you go you probably wont unless you go off the beaten path.
 
Ok I think I'm going to stay on normal/hc off for a few more hours. Definitely not switching to hard.
The thing about HC mode is that I'm afraid it will turn off from sticking with this game.

Maybe, I should just leave it as it is for my first playthrough. Eventually I'll get a PS4 next year with Fallout 4. So far I'm loving this game.

When I got to rank 3 or 4 I put all my skill points into science because I really wanted to make that cowboy robot the sheriff of Primm. Haha (I guess this was stupid)
 

Unai

Member
Ok I think I'm going to stay on normal/hc off for a few more hours. Definitely not switching to hard.
The thing about HC mode is that I'm afraid it will turn off from sticking with this game.

Maybe, I should just leave it as it is for my first playthrough. Eventually I'll get a PS4 next year with Fallout 4. So far I'm loving this game.

When I got to rank 3 or 4 I put all my skill points into science because I really wanted to make that cowboy robot the sheriff of Primm. Haha (I guess this was stupid)

Well, not really. All 3 sheriff options have issues. If you finish the game you'll learn what happend next because of this choice.
 
Ok I think I'm going to stay on normal/hc off for a few more hours. Definitely not switching to hard.
The thing about HC mode is that I'm afraid it will turn off from sticking with this game.

Maybe, I should just leave it as it is for my first playthrough. Eventually I'll get a PS4 next year with Fallout 4. So far I'm loving this game.

When I got to rank 3 or 4 I put all my skill points into science because I really wanted to make that cowboy robot the sheriff of Primm. Haha (I guess this was stupid)
If you're loving it now (I definitely did) I think you'll really enjoy what's to come. Definitely plan on multiple playthroughs seeing as a) you'll know what to do next time and b) there's soooooo many viable character builds! and c) multiple major endings with big decisions to make mean its impossible to see everything the first two times through.

And no, it's not stupid at all to want Slim as the sheriff. I love Slim. Isn't that its name? So many damn ways to make things happen. Did you see a smaller broken eye-bot around that area too? Fix it up despite the costs when you can, it's totally worth it...
 

manhack

Member
I'm surprised this thread hasn't gotten any activity with the release of Fallout 4.

Since I didn't want to take a chance on a buggy release of Fallout 4 I spent the last few days downloading, installing mods and starting up a new character in New Vegas.

For those interested I used most of the mods on http://wiki.step-project.com/User:EssArrBee/FalloutNewVegas to get me going.

Absolutely having a blast since I didn't make it more than 15 hours into my last try with the game. The mods make it look great and it runs like a dream. (had to get rid of some mods that caused issues since I went a little crazy).

Not sure if I'll jump in to Fallout 4 anytime soon. Couldn't be any happier with my gunslinger, survivalist who is happy to do missions and follow the general good guy activities.
 
After seeing bunny hops review of Fallout 4 I am considering skipping F4 for now and giving New Vegas a try. I own the game but never played it. I don't have any of the DLC for new Vegas though so I am not sure if it will be worth it:'(
 

Labadal

Member
After seeing bunny hops review of Fallout 4 I am considering skipping F4 for now and giving New Vegas a try. I own the game but never played it. I don't have any of the DLC for new Vegas though so I am not sure if it will be worth it:'(
The game is worth playing even without the DLC. They are decent but not as good as the main game.
 
The game is worth playing even without the DLC. They are decent but not as good as the main game.
Lies. Two of the four (Old War Blues and Lonesome Road) are just as good as anything offered in the main event. All of the DLC is recommended if you are seriously considering mods, some if not most require them all.

In terms of mechanics, quests, and writing, early signs point to FNV > F4. Something tells me this sentiment will only increase in time.
 
Fallout 4 has some nice tricks up its sleeve, but it's just Fallout 3 with better graphics and a massively simplified skill system. And the writing is actually spectacularly awful, even for a Bethesda game.

That said, I think anyone who expected it to be more like New Vegas than a typical Bethesda "you are the most important person in the world because reasons, so here's a giant environment in which you can live out your power fantasy" type of game was kidding themselves. Bethesda know how to pull in the punters, and that's more of the same.
 

zkylon

zkylewd
Fallout 4 has some nice tricks up its sleeve, but it's just Fallout 3 with better graphics and a massively simplified skill system. And the writing is actually spectacularly awful, even for a Bethesda game.

That said, I think anyone who expected it to be more like New Vegas than a typical Bethesda "you are the most important person in the world because reasons, so here's a giant environment in which you can live out your power fantasy" type of game was kidding themselves. Bethesda know how to pull in the punters, and that's more of the same.

yea pretty much, you can very plainly see how they built up on top of fallout 3 instead of new vegas. for what fo4's concerned, might as well never existed. and tbh, even as someone that didn't like fo3 at all, i'm liking fo4 even less, at least just a few hours in. the way you're very unceremonously dropped in the wasteland and just bombarded with fallout shit feels very rushed and poorly paced. 20 minutes in you have dogmeat, power armor, you learn about crafting three different stuff and about freaking base building.

and dialogue seems to be worse than fo3's since the dialogue wheel is so far the worst implementation of that system i've seen, and dialogue doesn't seem to naturally flow from your choices and instead you just get different ways of saying "go on" without your choice feeling any different. like in super bunnyhop's review, you get that generic "sarcastic" option that your character just says "great..." and takes the job anyways. it's super awkward

anyways, new vegas is totally worth it without the dlc, but if i were you i'd wait until xmas sale and just get the ultimate edition. the dlc is really, really good
 

Ullus

Member
Got a question about the DLC's, I am currently level 27 and on my way to meet Caesar/Mr. Houses bunker. Should i just jump into the DLC once i reach 30 or wait until I only have the Assault on the dam quest left?
 

Branson

Member
Got a question about the DLC's, I am currently level 27 and on my way to meet Caesar/Mr. Houses bunker. Should i just jump into the DLC once i reach 30 or wait until I only have the Assault on the dam quest left?

I think you can start the DLC as low as 20 if you want. Really 25 if you want to be exact. So go for it.
 

Ullus

Member
I think you can start the DLC as low as 20 if you want. Really 25 if you want to be exact. So go for it.

Thanks, could use the caps from Dead Money, already emptied the OG casinos.

Having a real blast playing this again. Unarmed is surprisingly powerful.
 

Chris R

Member
So just finished this today. Final day was filled with bugs :( Was doing stuff for Mr House but then decided to do stuff for the NCR instead. Well... the final part of the final NCR quest has you protecting the president... something I already did for Mr House.

Quest glitched out, at least I could fix it in the console, just sucked I had to do that.

Completed this and 3 the past month. Loved the world and factions in New Vegas, even if I hated the technical limitations on the world (getting around the Strip sucked so much, very similar to the metro shit in 3, an engine limitation I know). 3 Had the better gameplay though IMO, I didn't like how NV limited your perks and combined skills.

Might come back and play NV again some day to try and evil/Caesar build, just wish Old World Blues hadn't killed any desire to play the game when it did back in May 2014. I hated the DLC in 3 too, if/when I get 4 I'll skip all the DLC lol.
 

3phemeral

Member
Just started playing this as I finished F3 several months ago but I have an issue:

I can't get my right trigger button to select any body targets. RT usually just exits VATS but I'll randomly be able to activate a shot on the selected target. I can't queue up shots at all and there doesn't seem to be any help other than a few random posts that mention the same thing with no solution.

Any ideas?

[edit]

Found the problem. Seems there was a button-mapping error where two functions were assigned to a single button.
 
I bought New Vegas through the Steam sale but I'm having a huge problem installing the game. Once steam does its thing i hit play and I get the new Vegas installer screen. I hit install and I get an error saying it can't find the install file and it appears they aren't there. Anyone else have this issue? How did you fix it?
 

d00d3n

Member
This is probably really old and well known, but just wanted to recommend this youtube playthrough of New Vegas where one guy (Many A True Nerd) goes through the game without healing once. I haven't watched all of it yet, but it seems really well edited (skips over a lot of boring traversal and repetition) and interesting because of the unique restrictions he puts on himself. All action scenes are quite intense because taking unnecessary damage at any point will destroy the playthrough. It sadly seems to be the xbox 360 version of the game, but that haven't bothered me much yet.
 
Playing through this on XBO BC right now, really enjoying it. It's way better than Fallout 4, which was my first Fallout game (and overall, I still liked it for what it was).

Anyways, I ran into my first real major glitch last night and can't complete a side-mission. I'm going to move onto other stuff in the meantime, I'm deep into The Strip and I have quests galore at the moment.

So, in "Beyond the Beef", my last objective is to
return Ted to his father.
But there is no objective indicator on my HUD, and when I talk to Heck, I don't get any new dialogue option to finish the quest.

Here's the gist of what happened:
I took the "use the recipe for human flesh" route, rescued Ted from the freezer, and then attempted to expose Mortimer during his speech. The first few times I tried this, Mortimer would just start walking away halfway through his speech and leave the room, and the game crashed when I followed him through the door back out to the hotel lobby (this might be an Xbox One BC thing, as it's happened to me a few times in both New Vegas and Dark Souls 1). Anyways, I restarted the Xbox and went back to my previous save, and now Mortimer would finish his speech. But when I go back to the main lobby, Ted has his fists raised like he's in combat, and nothing triggers when I talk to Heck. I had a dialogue choice like "Ted is in the casino, he's been kidnapped". I guess I never went back and talked to Heck after talking to Chauncey, and maybe that's why everything is glitched out?

I don't really have an older save to go back to that wouldn't cost me a few hours of progress, so I don't want to do that. Since it's not a main quest I'm not too concerned about not being able to finish it, but it's definitely a bummer because I really liked this quest. Anyone have any ideas on how I might "reset" things with Ted and Heck so that I can finish the quest? Fast traveling out of the Strip and back didn't do anything, nor did finishing a couple other quests in the meantime ("Bye Bye Love" and "What Little We Know").
 

Triteon

Member
I'm bumping this because this info seemed like it needed to be posted but didn't need it own thread.

American Green, a cannabis company has apparently bought the whole of Nipton.
They are going to set it up as a pot tourist destination.

I hope someone mods that in.
 
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