Hawk269
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How long is the SP campaign in TF2? I never picked up the game. Enjoyed the first, but had a lot going on when the second dropped and just never got around to getting it.
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Xbox One X Enhanced Games - Full List of Titles and Details
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How long is the SP campaign in TF2? I never picked up the game. Enjoyed the first, but had a lot going on when the second dropped and just never got around to getting it.
Caayn
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Doesn't the PS4 Pro version uses a dynamic resolution capped at 1440p? 4K* would be a major jump from that resolution.
*Probably dynamic as well.
Took me about 4-5 hours. Fun game, campaign is overrated in my opinion though. Not to say it's bad by any stretch though.
xDUMPWEEDx
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Forza 7 and PUBG are going to be glorious on the 1X. #Hypeeeeee
Liabe Brave
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It renders at dynamic 1440p, but it doesn't drop from that res very often.
No "probably" about it, the dev specifically said it's dynamic 4K. The size of the gap between Pro and One X will depend on how often the new version drops below 4K. If that's rare, it would indeed be a big jump.
Was there a specific test for that? I mean, pixel counting is way harder than fps counting so such a statement should be made carefully.
^indeed
Liabe Brave
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Digital Foundry are the source. I'm sure this means they selected runs of play with high onscreen polycounts, extensive alpha effects, or other performance-intensive situations, and pixel counted frames from those sequences.
Obviously, we don't know how extensive their testing was. If you'd like to be conservative, simply assume Pro runs under 1440p frequently, and One X runs under 2160p frequently.
I like it more than I did when it was announced, but there's a part of me now that wishes that Microsoft had embraced its Mountain Dew-tinged origins even more and called it the "Xbox One Xtreme."
It'd be corny as hell, but oddly fitting considering the over-the-top corporate pandering to youth that marked the debut of one of my favorite consoles.
Thebonehead
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Depends how big the patches are for the games ( If they add enhanced textures, that'll bump up the download even more )
I'd like it a whole lot more if it's stable-mate wasn't already called the Xbox One S. Holiday season is going to be a nightmare for telephone orders.
barneystuta83
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Titanfall 2 in 4K?
Respawn. Dat support.
Respawn. Dat support.
Dig it. It was the best name to go with.
JayhawkerStL
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It's PR. He's trying to ding Microsoft and their claims about Forza 7. That's all.
SenjutsuSage
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I like it a lot actually. However, as another poster said, I fear for countless screwed up orders or gifts during the Holiday season when someone says they want the Xbox One X, and instead end up with the S.
"I think this is the better one. S stands for Super. Don't worry, I gamed a lot during the super NES days."
FFXV is 900p on Xbox One.
Liabe Brave
Member
They've already removed the 60fps claim, and in fact the "4K later this year" is also probably wrong. PUBG will not be Xbox One X enhanced when it arrives first on Xbox Game Preview. It will only get enhancements when it's officially released across all platforms, which could happen next year.
The drops are short, but this Digital Foundry comparison with Forza 6 shows they do exist. "Locked" is not accurate for FM5 (though "nearly locked" is).
This is a misleading way to state what CBR does. In many ways it's more accurate to say that 1800c shades 5.76m pixels, just half of them were shaded a frame ago. This more properly describes both the benefits and drawbacks: pixel value accuracy across the image is much higher than with standard render/upscale of an identical number of same-frame pixels, but temporal artifacts and inaccuracies can be introduced.
You should not use the Gearnuke comparisons to draw any conclusions, they're very distorted. Both One X and Pro shots have been downsampled to a smaller size, and not one that's a low-integer ratio (they're 8/15ths). This means the tool used for resizing can have had a major effect on clarity, especially since they have different native resolutions to begin with. There's also JPEG compression involved--not terrible, but when looking for high-frequency detail that can get in the way.
Strange. If I hit the "Show More Games" button at the bottom I get to 38 in the main list (plus 4 featured up top).
I wouldn't take this as too much gospel, though. As Microsoft explains elsewhere, this is all forms of 4K and not just native (witness ACO at the top), but it also includes a game which isn't any kind of 4K at all: ARK runs at 1080p.
Which isn't to say that the list is wholly suspect--8 of these games are already running native 4K on PS4 Pro, and 2 more are very likely. The more powerful One X shouldn't have any issue doing the same. But this isn't a source you'd want to rely on for 100% accuracy by any means.
Hawk269
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Same with me. Oddly, was in a Gamestop when a few people came in asking if they were doing pre-orders for, as they called it "The X". I was there maybe for 30 min and I would say about 4 or 5 people came in asking for it and only one called it Xbox One X, the others called it "The X".
He's saying that to have a perfectly locked 60 fps takes other trade offs and in his opinion, their solution, "mostly 60 fps", is a better trade off.
To illustrate how much variance in what the game demands, from the pcars2 2 thread:
Yes, and push out the lod detail pop in. or/and 1080p + 60 fps mode. God I love sunset overdrive
GarthVaderUK
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That would be delicious.
You think Insomniac is gonna take time off working on Spiderman, to update Sunset Overdrive?
MilkyJoe
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They've already removed the 60fps claim, and in fact the "4K later this year" is also probably wrong. PUBG will not be Xbox One X enhanced when it arrives first on Xbox Game Preview. It will only get enhancements when it's officially released across all platforms, which could happen next year.
The drops are short, but this Digital Foundry comparison with Forza 6 shows they do exist. "Locked" is not accurate for FM5 (though "nearly locked" is).
This is a misleading way to state what CBR does. In many ways it's more accurate to say that 1800c shades 5.76m pixels, just half of them were shaded a frame ago. This more properly describes both the benefits and drawbacks: pixel value accuracy across the image is much higher than with standard render/upscale of an identical number of same-frame pixels, but temporal artifacts and inaccuracies can be introduced.
You should not use the Gearnuke comparisons to draw any conclusions, they're very distorted. Both One X and Pro shots have been downsampled to a smaller size, and not one that's a low-integer ratio (they're 8/15ths). This means the tool used for resizing can have had a major effect on clarity, especially since they have different native resolutions to begin with. There's also JPEG compression involved--not terrible, but when looking for high-frequency detail that can get in the way.
Strange. If I hit the "Show More Games" button at the bottom I get to 38 in the main list (plus 4 featured up top).
I wouldn't take this as too much gospel, though. As Microsoft explains elsewhere, this is all forms of 4K and not just native (witness ACO at the top), but it also includes a game which isn't any kind of 4K at all: ARK runs at 1080p.
Which isn't to say that the list is wholly suspect--8 of these games are already running native 4K on PS4 Pro, and 2 more are very likely. The more powerful One X shouldn't have any issue doing the same. But this isn't a source you'd want to rely on for 100% accuracy by any means.
DOOM is going 4K?????
That would be awesome although I wish we would know how the resolution scaling would be better with no patch on vanilla Xbox One.
ResidentDante
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I would love this. I'd even take a 1080p@60fps mode and be very happy just with that!
Freakin' Homefront The Revolution too. I'm curious to see how does CryEngine scale up from 900p on X1 to the XBOX, since it would be the same transition for Ryse.
LukasTaves
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But both cases are non interactive cases, during the gameplay it is locked, because they test for the worst case scenario and ensures that it runs locked.
VincentMatts
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Glad i bought it on xbox. Kinda wish i bought all my 3rd parties on xbox now
Banderdash
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Okami Haundo
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Hot damn @ the Titanfall 2 update. I will gladly buy that game again and at least re-play the campaign.
ToxicPhantom
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Every time I hear Xbox One X, it reminds of that DMX track "X Gonna Give It To Ya!"
Samurai G0SU
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Alpha Phoenix
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Diablo 3 sounds like it might get something. At least the latest DLC announcement said some features are only available on the X. I think it was an additional gameplay element. Not sure if that means the whole game will be enhanced in any way.
Christocolus
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Yeah, I saw that yesterday. It looks great.
Is there a link confirming this? I already have it on the PS4 Pro and I would probably get it on Xbox One X if true.