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Kinect creators say technology supports only two players at a time
- Thread starter Ignis Fatuus
- Start date
GoldenEye 007
Member
Statement about the nunchuck and the Wii because for some reason it was missed and people are still unsure...
The nunchuck is a dummy device with an analog stick, accelerometer, and two buttons. It does no communication on it's own and must connect to the Wii Remote, which then allows Bluetooth communication with the console. That's why you can have a 4 Wii Remote + 4 nunchuck combo.
And no way this 2-person thing for Kinect is true... Microsoft won't launch it like that. Will they?
The nunchuck is a dummy device with an analog stick, accelerometer, and two buttons. It does no communication on it's own and must connect to the Wii Remote, which then allows Bluetooth communication with the console. That's why you can have a 4 Wii Remote + 4 nunchuck combo.
And no way this 2-person thing for Kinect is true... Microsoft won't launch it like that. Will they?
WasteLand Soldier
Banned
Ignis Fatuus said:
tennis you are actually STANDING UP AND PLAYING. (insert natal standing joke :lol ) mario kart, smash, nsmb dont do anything that cant be experienced just sitting down and playing on the couch with the wiimote/chuck as you would with a normal controller. any other stand up and play game i can think of (bowling, punch out, resort, golf etc) is either people taking turns or 2 players.
CrushDance
Banned
Something, something, two Wii/Move controllers and Kinect is 4 free ones!
WasteLand Soldier said:
So you want us to completely disregard some of the most popular games on the platform and some of there biggest selling points (Wii Sports, Smash Bros, Mario Kart Wii, and NSMB WII.) all because you haven't had it happen?
And yes it does count, same with Mario Party 8 also had four people at one time. Why is this something that you are trying to ignore?
MegaKungFuRadio
Member
Ignis Fatuus said:
Wasn't aware there were any besides Red Steel and maybe the Conduit. Did the Conduit have a Goldeneye mode?
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
Actually I play that sitting down. Wonderful feature, chairs.WasteLand Soldier said:
Wii Play supports 4 people. A lot of casual shit does because they're meant to be party attractions.
Here you go.
WasteLand Soldier
Banned
TruePrime said:
no. youre missing the point. do you play wii tennis on the couch? NO. you get up and play. all the others you play on the couch.
Ignis Fatuus said:
you play tennis and golf on the couch? bowling too amirite?
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
Yes.WasteLand Soldier said:
spiderman123
Member
so basically wii motion control is still kicking ass.
voodoopanda
Member
Wii not forcing people to stand to play their games now a negative, ya heard it here first.
WasteLand Soldier said:
Okay so let me get this straight, it is okay that Kinect doesn't support 4 player support because Microsoft couldnt get there software in line to allow people to play on the couch?
The point isnt that four people can't stand and play it is they can't play 4 player at all, it would be the same if they where sitting on the couch, it would still be 2 people.
Nose Master
Member
The camera only has so wide a viewing angle... I'm surprised it even supports two.
GreenBikerDude
Member
WasteLand Soldier said:
My friends and family do, we play the usual 4-player games, Halo 1-3, CoD (4,WaW, MW2), Powerstone, NBA Hangtime, NFL Blitz, Goldeneye 007, Mariokart, Daf Jam: FFNY, WCW/WWF games, SmashBros (It does count), and many more.
Just because you don't play 4-player games, doesn't mean everybody else don't.
Ignis Fatuus said:
I agree....I think we'll see similar PS3 type games that will have 4player for sure, but not using the Move controllers and more so just the PSEye like these games..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOXohr4XE-4&feature=related
those people seem to be having alot of fun and fit on screen..lol......and that was with the EyeToy's old tech.
MegaKungFuRadio
Member
spiderman123 said:
In theory, sure.
GreenBikerDude said:
To be fair, the point he was trying to make was how many 4-player motion controlled games are there where everyone is moving around at the same time. He just decided to be completely incoherent in making it. The fact is, though, if you wanted to do that on the Wii, you can. You simply cannot with Kinect as it stands (not sits) right now.
boiled goose
good with gravy
WasteLand Soldier said:
oh come on. Only a huge portion of wiis most succesful games are 4 player coop experiences.
Wii sports
Wii sports resort
NSMBW
mario kart wii
Rockband/guitar hero band games
Smash Brothers
Rabbid party games
all feature 4 player simultaneous multi
not saying that it is a necessary feature, but another annoying restriction.
WasteLand Soldier said:
No, its you thats missing the point, what the hell? 2 players only. No sitting, how in the fuck is this about how many Wii games that you will 'allow to count' that support 4 player simultaneous play?
Its late man you need some rest.
Sentry said:
Wtf, I didnt know this wait. So if your using the chuck and the move there can only be two players using both? There cant be 4 people all using chuck plus the move?
WasteLand Soldier
Banned
OMG i cant believe none of you are understanding this. or are you all just playing blind just to have a reason to bash kinect? lets say kinect didnt even exist. take that 4 player list that was posted and probably 80-90% of those 4 player games are played sitting on the couch like the gamecube, the n64, the snes and the nes that came before it. doesnt take much advantage of wii's control scheme besides tilt funtion and MAYBE some waggle. again something that can be replaced by the press of a button.
now take the fact that again, acting like kinect doesnt exist, the whole wii scheme and motion controls were ment to make play easier by getting people OFF the couch to make play easier. less buttons, more motion. now which of those 4 player games allow 4 people to get up and have an experience that you COULDNT have on the gamecube, 64, snes or nes? Tennis and what else now? oh thats right. eveything else makes you take turns or play 2 players.
now take the fact that again, acting like kinect doesnt exist, the whole wii scheme and motion controls were ment to make play easier by getting people OFF the couch to make play easier. less buttons, more motion. now which of those 4 player games allow 4 people to get up and have an experience that you COULDNT have on the gamecube, 64, snes or nes? Tennis and what else now? oh thats right. eveything else makes you take turns or play 2 players.
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
I can think of no other rational explanation.WasteLand Soldier said:
MegaKungFuRadio
Member
JWong said:
In the end, isn't it all in our minds? In the opening to the 1UP Show once, the crew handed John Davison a Wiimote connected to nothing and sat him in front of a TV playing video of some racing game. Let's just say he didn't immediately realize he was being pranked.
The Faceless Master
Member
it's fairly obvious that after people naming Wii Sports, Mario Kart, Smash Bros and Red Steel that "not fair" = "any Wii game with 4 player support"Ignis Fatuus said:
spiderman123
Member
However seeing all the issues with Kinect i still going to buy one. I don't what the hell is compelling me to do this...........................must ...............resist.
WasteLand Soldier said:
How many Wii games sport 4 player games?
How many Kinect games?
End. Everything else about sitting or standing is bullshit that I dont care about, its not my problem the shit doesnt work when people are sitting on a couch, and its not my fault if it doesnt support 4 players. And if the translation of pushing a button into waggle wasnt a big deal MS and Sony wouldnt both be pushing their own motion control addons like all HELL right now, so you can save that nonsense.
Crakatak187 said:
In a weird way this casual kick may have a chance of reviving that. It needs to make a return so badly. We got online gaming and they just abandoned it : /
Air Zombie Meat
Member
Some of the mental acrobatics being performed to defend Kinect are giving the Cirque du Soliel a run for their money.
WasteLand Soldier
Banned
expy said:
and wii only has a handful of 4 player games where everyone is up and playing at the same time anyway so big whoop to the what .5% of games that kinect cant do? and even if it could, HONESTLY how many people...not us here at GAF,but hell even if you add gaf, how many have 4 wii control set ups and play 4 player games STANDING UP? I have 2 wii controllers. How many times have i or any of you invited 2 other people over to play wi tennis? oh whats that? and thats here. you think my elder neighbor nxt door has 4 remotes or invites 2 other people to come play wii tennis? doubt it. be real.
Puncture said:
dude thats not the point. the point is playing on the couch with a wii controller is not much different than playing with a 360 controller. kinect is just giving 360 the motion part for standing up that it didnt have.
wii
sitting? wii control
standing? full control
360
sitting? 360 control
standing? nothing
kinect+reg control
sitting? reg control
standing? kinect.
MS is selling something that puts it on par with wii. its really simple.
GreenBikerDude
Member
WasteLand Soldier said:
At least the Wii give you an option of having 4 players standing and having a good time.
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
I would call you incoherent but you make about as much sense as Microsoft PR these days.WasteLand Soldier said:
spiderman123
Member
WasteLand Soldier said:
hey hey come on now i actually know some............ super smash bro anybody
WasteLand Soldier said:
You know what maybe that could be easily replaced by a button, problem is Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony believe that buttons stand in the way no matter what type of game it is so yes it is a problem that you are mapping those moves to ABXY on the X360 controller instead of having it set up for 4 people with Connect.
As it stands we don't know if Waggle or tilt helped Mario Kart Wii, but you know what? It sold better then it ever has before and wether or not you, I or Gaf like to admit it maybe it is because of the tilt, and now we know that Kinect can't replicate that. So yes I would say that is a very big problem.
MegaKungFuRadio
Member
Ignis Fatuus said:
I tried to help him out, but now I've decided I'd rather watch him continue to melt down because he can't form a sentence to get his point across.
opticalmace
Member
I'm disappointed to learn the PS3 can only take 2 players if using both the Move+Nav. Will buy it anyway though.
A Twisty Fluken
Member
Just Dance? Wii Music?WasteLand Soldier said:
Anyway, the realization that the 4 year old Wiimote is still top of the heap has made this thread worth visiting.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
sounds like a train wreck. how fitting since trains are usually only on 2 tracks
The Faceless Master
Member
but 3 of those 'handful' are top selling Wii games.WasteLand Soldier said:
apparently, several Rayman games, both Boom Blox games, Mario Strikers Charged and Madden all have 4 player simultaneous play.
spiderman123
Member
expy said:
but the reality is some of us is still going to buy it........yes it sucks and i don't know if even most of these issues are going to be resolved but i can say for myself that imma prob still going to buy one, and the ps3 motion
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
2 rails, sir. Rails.davepoobond said:
WasteLand Soldier
Banned
i like that an explaination is a meltdown :lol its not my fault most of you here just dont want to get it. more funny than anything else to me.
MegaKungFuRadio
Member
Hero said:
I honestly have trouble believing that most people will care when it comes down to it. People buy games based on CG trailers all the time. Falling for marketing fakery is nothing new.
voodoopanda
Member
So motion controlled Mario Kart is 4 players on the Wii, whereas motion controlled Joyriders is limited to 2. Those games seem comparable.