But they made it very clear back then in the Kickstarter that that was ART, not what the game was going to look like. It even says right underneath those images "Note: All images on this page are concept art and not actual in-game screens." They even explained outright that it was going to be sidescrolling 3D with polygons and had the target render which this actually looks pretty close to, aside from Beck not being as big on-screen as he was in the target.If I was seeing alpha cel-shading, comments about "SHURRUP ITS ALPHA" would be bang on. I'm looking at models made for traditionally lit environments though and theres no magic 'now its cel-shaded!' switch in-game that wouldn't be gigantically resource intensive.
As for the "cost" of 2D sprites:
Mighty No. 9: $3,845,170
Shantae: Half-Genie Hero: $776,084
This is why Kickstarters without a representative prototype just feel like bullhonkey. You go from this:
to the above. Of course people are gonna feel let down when all those 2D art visuals were what were heavily hitting the Mega Man nostalgia gland.
I also remember this song and dance from the Unreal Engine prototype they showed a while back, with the same sort of "wait and see" merry go round.
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Mighty No.9 : First Screens (from Alpha Build]
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SpookyFries
Member
The real question here is why is he watching his employees on a TV that has PS3 icons on the bottom?
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
I knew that, hence why I personally didn't back it. No prototype, no go.
A lot of other people however wont be as acutely aware of the gulf that exists between concept art and reality, especially in an age of perfected cel-shading on show in titles like Guilty Gear Xrd and Naruto Ninja Storm.
If Capcom were smart, they'd have a 2D HD Megaman in dev right now to capitalise on disappointment, much like the Ouya hero-to-zero getting replaced by the real next gen consoles. They're not though, so lulzords.
Quite a few of the crowdfunded projects I'm following have shied away from very early footage precisely because of silly reactions like these. Even explaining exactly what to expect in an alpha doesn't keep people from complaining.
RobFox64tm
Member
Kinda disappointed it's not hand drawn art instead of 3D, but it's looking pretty good in this early build. Can't wait to see more.
Cost and scale probably have something to do with it. With 2D art you have to make a whole bunch of redundant resolution assets to fit different frame buffers. It's much easier if you are doing pixel perfect art on say a single handheld platform.
I don't think there's anyone at Capcom interested in making a Megaman game. I think that, if you were to get such a thing, it would end up being done by someone like Yahct Club games or Way Forward, something I would love but Megaman fans see as some unholy deal with satan for some reason (I honestly don't get this, Might Switch Force was great).
I see Pikachu, Registeel, Scyther, and Kyurem back there.
Cool.These look alright, but that vid of the game they made in a week looked alot better, imo.
Holy Order Sol
Member
People who're up in arms about this clearly haven't read shit.
This. Polishing visuals and stuff from what I recall is around the last things people do in game development. All they did is show people that they're working on it.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I think the game looks fine and roughly what I expected.
I warned people the concept art wasn't a screenshot when the kickstarter went up and people told me I was being unnecessarily negative.
Funny, that.
I warned people the concept art wasn't a screenshot when the kickstarter went up and people told me I was being unnecessarily negative.
Funny, that.
Game looks terrible. Whats up with the horrendous bloom? wheres the 2D cel-shaded overlayed onto 3D art? Why is there no playable demo yet? release date? what the fuck inafune, I placed all my trust and money on you and this project and I'm extremely disappointed.
I demand a refund, a hand written apology and maybe even some compensation in the form of plushies. Go back to capcom you lazy bum.
There is a reason why game developers are so hesitant to communicate with their fans because a lot of people lack the ability to read and common sense.
I demand a refund, a hand written apology and maybe even some compensation in the form of plushies. Go back to capcom you lazy bum.
I think I've about summed it all up in one post right?
There is a reason why game developers are so hesitant to communicate with their fans because a lot of people lack the ability to read and common sense.
Just_myles
Member
As a backer,I will give them the benefit of the doubt. Those screens look way too early to pass any judgement on, sorry. Just glad they are letting us in on the process.
Even if it did go for that 'look', I would still give it the benefit of the doubt because I know the gameplay will most likely be solid, it is Inafune guys remember that.
Even if it did go for that 'look', I would still give it the benefit of the doubt because I know the gameplay will most likely be solid, it is Inafune guys remember that.
Dark Octave
Banned
What's with the big brother camera on the staff's work stations?
SkyTurnsRed
Banned
shysaursoft
Member
Saw the same thing at Team Ninja. It may be an eastern development culture thing. Looks like a feed through a PS3 too, those icons are straight from the PS3 UI.
BabySlayer
Banned
well this game looks like a less cute powered up to me and that's not a bad thing
Nope... I liked Powered Up and Maverick Hunter X but the 3D look didn't really suit the game in my opinion. I prefer 2D in any side scrollers because it just looks better, more colorful, detailed and crisp.
I wish companies wouldn't do this 3D stuff just for the sake of mainstream acceptance. 2D visuals can look so much better and more creative than bland and washed-out 3D... I know these M no.9 pics are too early to judge, but I'm a little sad they are going for the 3D-look instead of the nice and sharp 2D look they shows in the KS
Megaman X4 was absolutely beautiful and still looks great:
This Megaman X7 or X8... UGLY as fuck:
Aquamarine
Member
I love the 3D models for the characters. I was worried that the characters would be 2D sprites, but it seems my fears were unfounded.
God damnit Capcom why isn't Powered Up on the PSN Store.well this game looks like a less cute powered up to me and that's not a bad thing
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
Directly from the Kickstart FAQ:
If you backed this without really comprehending, you have my sympathy but not my patience. And that last sentence is kind of funny in retrospect.
Isn't anyone else pleased to see what looks like a dash move in the 2nd screen?
I think that's the most telling part of this. Clearly Mighty Number 9 is just a smoke screen for the AR version of Game Dev Story that they're really developing. Diabolical.
Messofanego
Banned
True, we can be clueless at times like being pretentious budget analysts ever since that whole Skullgirls thing.
Mockingbird
Member
ummmm
Early reactions for a kickstarter are always kind of funny to watch. Everyone was super mad at the first bit of Pillars of Eternity art, now it looks better than could have been expected.
This is the double edged sword of early reveals.
Seriously. :lol
These guys made the fucking Mega Man Zero series and anyone's worried about how the game will look/play from Day -730 footage? This stuff will get sorted out down the line. I'm just happy to see more experimentation with the game engine.
If anyone has ever wondered why devs keep all of their development secret from the rest of the world...this is why....
It is truly amazing how many people are shitting on alpha/prealpha footage..... you guys are ridiculous (not all of you obviously)
EDIT: Also lol at people comparing alpha footage to concept art
It is truly amazing how many people are shitting on alpha/prealpha footage..... you guys are ridiculous (not all of you obviously)
EDIT: Also lol at people comparing alpha footage to concept art
Looking good so far, it's alpha of course. Hopefully they give it some more time to show off another look at the game so people can be more impressed. I'm happy as a backer still.
This is partly why there is so much secrecy in the industry with upcoming projects; they might not be presentable enough.
This is partly why there is so much secrecy in the industry with upcoming projects; they might not be presentable enough.
I'm honestly surprised at the negative responses to this. These pictures are pretty much exactly what I expected at this stage. For anyone backing the project without doing the proper research, you have no one to blame but yourselves. If you think concept art = alpha (or even final) build, you're uninformed.
I think it looks good.
I think it looks good.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Phew, that's a relief. Thankfully, I don't think Inafune is purposefully shooting for bland and washed-out 3D. IMO, 3D has the capacity to look infinitely better than any 2D sprite. Look at Guilty Gear Xrd for an example of matching that color and vibrance, while still adding an entire new dimension. The only shame here is that there is no sign of them attempting cel-shading. But pre-alpha gonna pre-alpha. I'll wait till their further along, or sound off on the official forum, if I'm really bothered by the direction (which I'm sure many people have already done, when these screens surfaced).
well this game looks like a less cute powered up to me and that's not a bad thing
I wish this was more cute though.
BoosterDuck
Banned
He wants to see who keeps taking his Twinkies.
Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
That monitor showing the staff working is weird. Does he distrust them so much?
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Diggeh
Unconfirmed Member
Leave it to GAF to whine about incredibly unfinished early alpha graphics. They're literally just testing the lighting, engine, and momentum.
Here's the actual quote from the forum:
Here's the actual quote from the forum: