Did you ever try holding down Circle*?
*in the English version I assume X in the Japanese one.
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Ys VIII: NISA apologies for localisation, will be patched in November
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Did you ever try holding down Circle*?
*in the English version I assume X in the Japanese one.
The original PS3 and Vita ones, not just PC?
That I haven't. I skipped text boxes one-by-one in CS I.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
yes. Had to get past all those in between scenes to see the final bonding events.
To think of all the time I wasted doing things the hard way going for the Platinum in CS I. Well, at least I can remember it for NG+ in CS II. Much obliged.
Well... this is unexpected. Sounds like at least a few English VAs are refusing to do re-dubs, and a few of the Trails of Cold Steel/Trails of Cold Steel dub actors have thrown their hats into the ring publicly saying they hope XSEED gets Trails of Cold Steel III.
Not sure how related this is to the thread... but that's a pretty big deal, right?
Not sure how related this is to the thread... but that's a pretty big deal, right?
Kingpin Rogers
Member
Hopefully it's an optional patch. Some people would prefer to play with the original translation.
GoldandBlue
Member
Really? Where's the news about vo not wanting to do redubs?
The most vocal has been Sean Chiplock, and it's been coming from the Falcom discord. That's also where the letter was posted where a few VAs are on record saying they hope XSEED gets CSIII.
EDIT: Removed link.
GoldandBlue
Member
I can't read the file on my phone but I checked out the Discord and yeah that's wild. Add that with NISA giving the translation fix only a month, this could just keep being one problem after another.
ResourcefulStar
Neo Member
That's my feel good story of the day. They should send a letter to Falcom as well.
EDIT: Updated the quotation.
GoldandBlue
Member
According to the Discord chat, they did.
I have a feeling after all this controversy, and how NISA botched the day-and-date PC port, it's more or less safe to say that XSEED is keeping Trails.
Bless the winds.
ResourcefulStar
Neo Member
Good. Let's hope it leads to a closer relationship between the two companies. XSEED should be trusted to work on localization before the Japanese release at this point.
GoldandBlue
Member
I hope so. I hope too they can do Ys again in the future.
LordGorchnik
Member
Thank fucking christ. Glad to see this happened.
I admit my hate for NIS America may be a tad overblown but it's still standing to this day based on so many bad localization choices and sub-par products they've put out. I haven't purchased anything from them since Soul Nomad back on the PS2.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
Her name is Allison Please, and she wants to go by just Allison. I don't see the issue.
So wait. You're blaming the fact that we don't get better localisations on the fact that I (and others, presumably) end up enjoying the game regardless of a few translation issues?
Lol. No.
Maybe I'm just someone who looks on the bright side. At least we *get* localisations for these games. I've been totally crushed in situations where games in my favourite series (you can guess by my avatar) haven't been localized at all. So yeah, I'd rather play a really great game with a some translation issues than not play at all.
And I'll reiterate again. Looking at those images in the OP, some of those translations are hilarious. they make the game even more amusing for me, and i'm entitled to that opinion.If something like this makes the game unplayable for you, then don't play it. Plain and simple.
What? Did you even read my post? I said I enjoyed the game myself.
But let's not pretend it's acceptable that we have to take what we can get. It really fucking bothers me that I'm paying money for a worse game, a different game in the worst cases, than what Japanese players got. It's almost more crushing to me than a game not getting localized; at least when something's not localized there's the chance it could be brought over with a great localization still. When something's localized badly and the company doesn't see that as a problem, you're stuck with that bad translation forever. And if you only speak English that is the only version of the game you will ever play. At least books (and subtitled movies/anime, I guess) sometimes get retranslations later down the line. With games that'll only happen if they get remade.
So yeah, "Big Hole's" amusing. But if I was a serious Ys fan who was looking forward to this (apparently fantastic) game, I'd be pissed that my only option is an inferior version of the game. I'd still enjoy the game, sure, but I'd never go "Well, this is what they felt like releasing so it's totally fine if every game they release is like this!"
I'm not telling you to boycott these games. I'm telling you that you should expect better from the companies you're giving money to. Don't just be content because they went through the process of releasing it at all. You wouldn't be so happy if the game was bugged to hell and back but still completable, right?
it should go without saying that I'm talking about actual mistranslation/bad localization and not people whining that Treehouse removed a character's vagina bones and what have you
Grim Patron
Member
hope nisa gets CS3. would rather play it in this lifetime.
ResourcefulStar
Neo Member
If you're satisfied with Ys VIII, just import CS III and feed the text to a machine translator as you encounter it.
Yep. All you need is a phone.
Just pause the game every time new text appears and use Google Translate from your phone.
If you're content with reading garbage you can just say it straight!
I hope not. There's a big chance the VAs would change then. No thanks.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
even if the voice actors stayed on (they wont) or you played it in japanese (mod or otherwise added in) the english text is still garbage if nisa produces it. Whats the point? So you can pretend its more enjoyable because it came out earlier or because you have an unjustified grudge against xseed.
Trails in The Sky SC - October 29 2015
Trails of Cold Steel - December 22 2015
Trails of Cold Steel II - September 6 2016
Trails in the Sky the 3rd - May 3 2017
Trails of Cold Steel PC feat. redubbed and newly dubbed lines - August 3 2017
allenpergallon
Member
As a serious Ys fan this is spot on. It's a real annoyance to see an otherwise solid product receive such shoddy treatment when being brought to your own language, and it goes double considering the lack of care shown for my own platform of choice (PC).
Something similar occurred with Tales of Hearts R when it was localized. While the port itself was fine the localization effort was half OK and half over-inflated, random and inaccurate nonsense. That, along with its release
hopefully only temporarily
ShadowSoldier89
Member
Ys is where people are being the loudest due to the change in publisher/localizer, but so many games are eatting shit in the localization process and no accountability is being held.
I mean, look at Blue Reflection's localization, its fucking horrible.
These sloppy translations are such an injustice to the games. I can take my weak japanese and play the original version and guess at the story well enough to get by. That doesn't capture the feeling of the stories and characters, and thats exactly what these localizations are doing, failing that, they are gibberish.
I mean seriously...
Basileus777
Member
Tales of Hearts R isn't really a good example. It's a case of localizers punching up boring dialogue into something that is for the most part an upgrade, it does not come across as a result of apathy at all. It mainly bothers people who want literal translations, which they got with Ys 8.
I don't think you actually played the CS series. The gap between the English release of CS1 and CS2 was a mere seven months -- how could you possibly complain about that? The only Trails game that took eons to come out was SC and there were a million reasons for that. No other publisher would have bothered with the Sky games to begin with, exactly because it was always an insane idea to bring these games over.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Yup 100% this
Billy_Pilgrim
Member
Very grateful that they've gone back to the drawing board on this. I bought on release and I've barely played it, because even as a fan of bad engrish the localisation is absolutely terrible in the worst of all ways.
hans_castorp
Member
This has to be bait
How have I not seen this amazing image until now?
This has to be bait
I'm dying
CertifiedFP
Member
This has to be bait
Man, I was going to say that someone made my Bait of Babylon image without crediting me for my amazing intellect coming up with the idea in the first place, but then I noticed it was Kevin and not Gilgamesh.
smh Kevin's ult was probably based off of Gate of Babylon in the first place.
Kayo Police
Member
Isn't this the same company that renamed a character for some stupid sex joke?
ShadowSoldier89
Member
Esty Dee!