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NHL Stanley Cup 2017 Finals [OT]- To Catch a Predator
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A Serious Man
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I mean, the Preds only had 6 shots in the third, with which they scored two goals. I think we know what the secret sauce this series is.
Thanks, you deserved the cup, the better team won. We finally got our defense in order recently, something Thornton didn't have the luxury of in years before that (hell, just seeing that defense+goaltending in the link I posted makes me cringe), so I was hoping that was finally our year but then you guys came in with such depth and speed on offense. It's too bad we had to come out of the West the first year the East sent this good a team in a long time.
Roronoa Zoro
Gold Member
Well the Pens are pretty good too. You can never be too good to not steal home ice when the fact that you're on the road means you had less points in the regular season.
Pretty much. This game was all sorts of haunted.
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
I prayed for it, and I'm not religious.
You misunderstood me. That power play should have been 4-4 because the of the flop.
The offsides? At best that's inconclusive. If you are sitting here honestly claiming you could see his foot and if it was up, then that's just your fandom coming through and I don't know what to tell you.
If the sides were reversed there then I would say the exact same thing, it should be inconclusive. Would I have gladly accepted the reversal? Of course. But I wouldn't be sitting here saying it was a spot on right call.
Gunstar Ikari
Unconfirmed Member
Totally a penalty by Jarnkrok
And that "offsides" was inconclusive at best to anyone who wasn't wearing homer goggles. Come on, man.
Roronoa Zoro
Gold Member
I think logically there's no way his foot was on the ice. I'll call it against the Pens and admit when it's an undeserved call, but this one seems ridiculous to me. His foot was off the ice as the puck hit the blue line at almost the exact same time. If that's what the call was determining I could see the dispute. but the puck had to make it to the other side of the blue line before his foot came up. There's no way that happened. All the weight was off of it when the puck hit the blue line. It was pixilated but pretty obvious call.
Roronoa Zoro
Gold Member
People were saying the rule of offsides or challenges shouldn't exist after that call which seems silly to me. People literally want a rule to change just because it benefited the Pens once.
I don't want a rule change. I want an honest call after a review. You didn't catch it live, and no way you could tell via replay. So you let it go.
Roronoa Zoro
Gold Member
well I'll just say again that his foot was off the ice as the puck hit the blue line and clearly off when it was on the other side. Close but correct. Much like an NFL goal line score where the ball just breaks the plain with the tip before being pushed back out.
Roronoa Zoro
Gold Member
The sooner we get to game 2 the better. Hopefully there won't be any challenges or penalties or non-calls.
Calamari41
41 > 38
More like Jarn Krok-of-Shit
You should never reverse a sequence of play.
Rule a goal bad, sure. That's done immediately on stoppage. But a goal bad because of something that occurred 30 seconds or more earlier when was originally ruled good? No. Only exception is when a missed goal happens.
At that point why even have linesmen?
Also the way the NHL handles the blue line is dumb. It should be considered neutral where it's both the neutral zone and offensive zone equally. The white ice should define entry and exit in context to the play. They used to handle it this way and I don't really know when or why it changed.
Offside plays should only be for passes too, while we're at it.
Rule a goal bad, sure. That's done immediately on stoppage. But a goal bad because of something that occurred 30 seconds or more earlier when was originally ruled good? No. Only exception is when a missed goal happens.
At that point why even have linesmen?
Also the way the NHL handles the blue line is dumb. It should be considered neutral where it's both the neutral zone and offensive zone equally. The white ice should define entry and exit in context to the play. They used to handle it this way and I don't really know when or why it changed.
Offside plays should only be for passes too, while we're at it.
Calamari41
41 > 38
With you on this 100%.
Its like reversing a grand slam because the opposing manager successfully challenges a called "ball" from six pitches earlier.
There's a difference between literal rule and spirit of the rule. Surely, that goal being called off was NOT within the spirit of the rule, even though it might've been the literal rule. That's why the offside review has to be revisited, because this way it's hurting more than helping.
gutter_trash
Banned
Gary Bettman phoned it in
You have the right approach. We can make this a positive! That is, educate all these fresh faces, new to the game and desperate for knowledge. It's offside, not offsides. Diving is technically not allowed. Frederick Gaudreau is better known as 'Freddie Hockey'. And winning 5-3 while being out-shot 26-12 is, actually, quite unusual!
excelsiorlef
Member
So the Pens did score their 3rd and 4th goals on consecutive shots... they just also came 37 minutes apart.
That's gotta be a record.
excelsiorlef
Member
Pretty sure yes, that was I believe the longest time without a shot in NHL SCF finals history, and was the lowest shot total in finals history too...
Fuck it I'll take it.
But like how insane was that, Preds on their 8th shot against allow a goal that puts them down 3-0... they then take about 34 minutes to come back and tie the game... not allowing a Penguins shot on net in that time frame, and then 3 minutes after tying the game, the Pens get their first shot in 37 minutes and go up 4-3...
To spend all the time clawing your way back into the game only to let up a goal on the first shot in 37 minutes is fucking insane.
Senzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I've been saying the offside rule should change for like 2 years now.
Definitely
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
Holy fuck I'm so hung over
ProfessorMoran
Member
If Rinne can't stop a shot GLOVESIDE with a clear view then he doesn't deserve to win the cup.
I agree, any other Finnish goaltender in the NHL would've done that
astroturfing
Member
ah it was fun coming here reading the commentary after watching the game, i knew there would be tears.
i gotta say it was a great game. the call to take away Subban's dirty goal was very, very good. one of the best calls i gotta say. Murray tending the goal.. oh man, what is there to say? one of the greatest to ever stand between the pipes. amazing. and of course Crosby and Malkin, beatiful beatiful plays by the two greats. very beatiful. a TREMENDOUS hockey team all around.
better luck to the THRASHVILLE "Predators" next time, maybe try your other Finnish goalie whatever his name was.
the series will be 4-0 for the Pens at this rate, believe me. 3 goals just in the first period in this game, who can argue against that? fantastic start to the series!!
i gotta say it was a great game. the call to take away Subban's dirty goal was very, very good. one of the best calls i gotta say. Murray tending the goal.. oh man, what is there to say? one of the greatest to ever stand between the pipes. amazing. and of course Crosby and Malkin, beatiful beatiful plays by the two greats. very beatiful. a TREMENDOUS hockey team all around.
better luck to the THRASHVILLE "Predators" next time, maybe try your other Finnish goalie whatever his name was.
the series will be 4-0 for the Pens at this rate, believe me. 3 goals just in the first period in this game, who can argue against that? fantastic start to the series!!
Rosvoja Torilla
Member
Calamari41
41 > 38
Really feeling #Blessed that Rinne stood on his head during our series, especially the last two games, and then decided that he was done for the year.
Please everybody stop saying "offsides". You're fucking killing me
Where the fuck did offsides start anyway?
I'd like to slap that person in the face.
That's offside.
Probably imbask.
Definitely went over the line.
Fate_Shirou
Member
Gunstar Ikari
Unconfirmed Member
To be fair, he hadn't made a save in nearly 40 minutes of game time. Hard to stay focused. I kinda knew that after such a long stretch, the next Pens shot would either go in or Pekka would have a hard time with it.
I'm not sure how much of the game is his fault and how much of it comes down to blown defensive coverage and simple puck luck. Either way, it's just one game; there's still plenty of hockey to play.
Stop before you pull something.
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