RedAssedApe
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Its fine to have that reservation. Let me reword it as...don't worry about it until we hear facts and not just unconfirmed rumors.
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F'DUPTON 3: Back in the Tub with 5.0/5.5/6/7/several Inches of RAM-Flavoured Water
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Its fine to have that reservation. Let me reword it as...don't worry about it until we hear facts and not just unconfirmed rumors.
I think they are friends or something. They confirm each other often.
Lion Heart
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Lets get some Kaz gifs up in this bitch. Seal the deal.
Same place he got the number "seven" from "several"? Ie, a source mixed in with plenty of his own conjecture.
Facism
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He had a bit of an anti-sony agenda back when he was editing the Official Sega Saturn Magazine.
I assume he's grown out of such petty nonsense since then, though
Thunder Monkey
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Early on definitely.
By the end of the generation though?
5-6 gigs will become just as restrictive as 512MB was this past generation.
Latvian Hitman
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There isn't one bit of truth in this entire paragraph...
That is not my point at all. My point was expectations Vs reality as stated in my previous post. People, for whatever reason, thought they were going to have something like 90% of the RAM reserved for games while only a little for the OS. Now that it turns out that its not the case, people are disappointed.
That's the reason, but they should only blame themselves really. I still don't understand why this is such a big deal anyway.
And there is a reason why none of them are banned for "false information".
Don't know if they know eachother outside of gaf or are real life friends, but there are many more insiders that know the same information but just aren't vocal about it.
Really? Really?
MichaelMikado
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Read what specifically?
Supposedly it was at some point.
Read it. There has been a lot of "new information".
IncandescentPrecept
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I think FFXV is PS4 exclusive, no?
MichaelMikado
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So what is the truth?
Canis lupus
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AyaisMUsikWhore
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It stuff like this that makes me hate calling myself a gamer sometimes. He shouldn't even have to do this. It isn't his job nor is it his place to put other in their place about their wrong assertions. I'm grateful that he was able to shed some positive light on a terrible unnecessary topic but it just disgust me that we are in times when gaming can't be determined by how good a game is. It's determined by 0.5GB of RAM...Wtf is going on these days? Seriously.
Which ever the case, I'm glad Sony doesn't feel pressured into spilling wrong figures out with some many good devs on their side speaking out for them. It does make me feel like Sony did a good job of coming around this gen and wising up listening before hand while building a good relationship with devs. It stuff like this that makes me feel that we should give them some credit from that huge mess up they did back with the PS3 launch.
Its fine to have that reservation. Let me reword it as...don't worry about it until we hear facts and not just unconfirmed rumors.
Yup, that's for the best.
Latvian Hitman
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Back when it was a PS4 exclusive, yes.
You are aware that things change in the business world, yes?
Thunder Monkey
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That makes sense.
Still going to be one of the costliest mem approaches I've ever seen.
He had a bit of an anti-sony agenda back when he was editing the Official Sega Saturn Magazine.
I assume he's grown out of such petty nonsense since then, though
Great magazine, that. Leadbetter was my hero back then.
Anyways, you guys can doubt BLR/thuway/Kagari all you want, but an actual PS4 developer has came out and said that this is false.
Can Crusher
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I can live with 6. Pre order uncancelled.
Freaky Fred
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This thread....
lol nice edit
MichaelMikado
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If you cant give me a quote can I at least get a page number so I know what Im looking for? I don't think any new information would change the fact that total bandwidth used for gaming purposes would still be affected. Further that wouldn't mean the eSRAM in the xBONE would be used for anything other than a framebuffer.
Lol he got more mad about the comparisons with Xbox one than anything. His post history on twitter is depressing.
Like Bruce said, things change fast in this industry.
There is one thing that doesn't change, and that is Sony's incompetence in these type of deals (but that's another subject)
The part where xbone still remain behind ps4 specs. The post about the xbone advantages it's just crazy. xbone has not a single advantage over ps4 specs even wtih more of 500 MB of ddr3 RAM .
jhmtehgamr20xx
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Finally some clarity. Big ups to all the members who did some digging to uncover the truth. GAF can sleep peacefully tonight.
But fuck Eurogamer and Digital Foundry. They're on the ban list alongisde Kotaku and Giant Bomb.
But fuck Eurogamer and Digital Foundry. They're on the ban list alongisde Kotaku and Giant Bomb.
Thuway said Sony was helping with development so yes it has to be exclusive. Sony is not going to let MS have a game they helped make.
They were at one point. They aren't now aside from co-marketing so take from that what you will. They're still helping SE with FF14 however and SE have publicly said as much.
Giant Bomb? The hell did they do?
Ok so I just got done packing some stuff up for moving to a new place. Last time I was here, Thuway and Bruce just corroborated on a possible 6GB of RAM allocation. What did I miss since then?
Kagari joined in.
Ok so I just got done packing some stuff up for moving to a new place. Last time I was here, Thuway and Bruce just corroborated on a possible 6GB of RAM allocation. What did I miss since then?
Kagari also.
I really don't get the uproar about this, when the console releases and the teardowns start we'll be able to get an actual number. That or dev will reveal the number when the NDA's expire. Isn't the GPU the most important factor for graphical quality anyways?
On another note has it been confirmed that the Xbox One game OS can't access any of the 3GB reserved in the Windows partition if needed?
On another note has it been confirmed that the Xbox One game OS can't access any of the 3GB reserved in the Windows partition if needed?
MichaelMikado
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Dear Sir, I am talking specifically bandwidth used for the OS. Can you specifically tell me what the bandwidth usages are???
We know
1) eSRAM cannot be used for anything more than a framebuffer due to RAM size so no OS activities would use it.
2) PS4 has unified bandwidth and we know that a certain amount of it will be unavailable. PERIOD. The question is how much.
were they the same sources who told you sony wouldn't charge for multiplayer?
Ok so I just got done packing some stuff up for moving to a new place. Last time I was here, Thuway and Bruce just corroborated on a possible 6GB of RAM allocation. What did I miss since then?
- Assertion about Bruce, Thuway and other insiders pulling number out of their arse.
- Assertion that Bruce, Thuway and Kagari often confirm each other's claim because they are friends.
No.
Latvian Hitman
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I'm thinking maybe you should bookmark the thread and come back to it later.
You're probably better off to start here: http://bit.ly/13lzOyQ
What on earth.
The OS isn't using a third of the bandwidth, just a third of the ram. When a game is being played the OS will be using hardly any ram bandwidth, but it will sit there in its 2GB so it can be switched to instantly, along with any apps Sony wants to run. When in the background the OS will use a little CPU but hopefully that is not too much. When in the foreground the game will be suspended so the OS can use all the CPU/GPU if it wants.
IIRC Verendus was the only one who said FF15 is exclusive.
Mr. Somebody
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We all know what going on here, friend. Gaf does a good job of shielding it but the console wars are whats going on here. Behind many of these intelligent sounding posts is a line in the sand where one stands on the side of sony/microsoft/pc. Many friends on this board probably wish they had the freedom just to say F (sony microoft pc) but then someone would report them and they wouldnt be able to pots here anymore so instead, friends sensationalize trivial things which allows them to participate in this quiet war we have going on here. Its so artistic.
Thunder Monkey
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This isn't true.
Their eSram solution should be blazingly fast. Depending on how it's used and where I can see games being rendered at a higher resolution (pretty sure a 1080p framebuffer can fit into that 32MB) or can be used as a quick and easy way make up for any fillrate heavy transparency issues. It's also much more flexible versus the 360 eDram solution. Actually designed similarly to WiiU's. Using it as a scratchpad for some notable hardware deficits.
I'm just more centered on the cost of it. It just seems like a very expensive solution.
miDnIghtEr20C
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When I first came to this board around February or so.. Thuway was banned for wrong info on the X1 I believe.
Hey.. people get them right and wrong. Not saying always.. but it can happen. I saw him banned that one time.
disclaimer.. in no way am I saying that is happening now.. just saying I've seen him get banned before.
No matter any of the RAM talk, one thing is for sure. Both consoles are going to have great games this new generation. I can't wait for both.
Look people get things wrong several members in fact confirmed that,things change.
We have a lot of legit people on gaf that's right most of the time Crazy commented on the rumor even though he as not sure.
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