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Zeyphersan · Apr 27, 2017

badcrumble said:
Honestly, at this point October looks like it's the soonest that it'll happen (but happening any later would make the iPad Pro 12.9" two years old with no update). If they *are* actually bringing out a 10.5" iPad that's bezel-free and stuff, that design language is going to debut in the iPhone first.

Eh, I don't know if I necessarily agree with that. Based on the presumed screen size on the body, there's still a bezel, just less of one. Still room for a home button for sure. I think they could do new iPads first, since they won't follow what the iPhone is going to look like (tiny bezels vs no bezels)

Fox1304 · Apr 28, 2017

Just let us know when it's coming, so that I can decide to buy a mini meanwhile

Deku Tree · Apr 28, 2017

New iPads feel like October to me. Small chance of one at ADC but I doubt it.

Feels like the new iPads they wanted to make were not ready so they delayed them.

I would have bought the Pro if they merely put an A10X in it and gave it the new screen.

jts · Apr 28, 2017

At this point, surely, and I mean, surely, any new iPad Pro needs to skip A10 and get on the A11 bandwagon.

badcrumble · Apr 28, 2017

jts said:
At this point, surely, and I mean, surely, any new iPad Pro needs to skip A10 and get on the A11 bandwagon.

Not 'at this point,' but if they're hitting in October, then absolutely yes.

The A11 bandwagon doesn't exist because the A11 doesn't exist yet.

Zeyphersan · Apr 28, 2017

Like I can certainly see October but the last we heard about them was mass production was starting soon, and that was a month ago. So unless they delayed everything that was already ramping up my vote is WWDC along with the iOS 12 productivity changes

badcrumble · Apr 28, 2017

Zeyphersan said:
Like I can certainly see October but the last we heard about them was mass production was starting soon, and that was a month ago. So unless they delayed everything that was already ramping up my vote is WWDC along with the iOS 12 productivity changes

I feel like you gave away the sly hardware-getting-announced-at-WWDC-lmao joke with the iOS 12 thing.

Zeyphersan · Apr 28, 2017

badcrumble said:
I feel like you gave away the sly hardware-getting-announced-at-WWDC-lmao joke with the iOS 12 thing.

No, I'm just an idiot who made a typo. I wasn't joking

jts · Apr 29, 2017

badcrumble said:
Not 'at this point,' but if they're hitting in October, then absolutely yes.

The A11 bandwagon doesn't exist because the A11 doesn't exist yet.

It doesn't exist commercially but it's surely in an advanced development stage at Apple. There's no reason why Apple couldn't aim at an A11 pre-iPhone debut with an iPad Pro if they wanted to.

Provided they get good enough yields from the get go, so it doesn't put supply at risk for the iPhone, of course.

Fox1304 · Apr 29, 2017

All those October and later talks have had the best of me. Caved in for a New iPad, a 15% cashback pushed me over the edge.
It'll be a home device for when the new 10.5 pro comes out and I take it everywhere !

badcrumble · Apr 29, 2017

jts said:
It doesn't exist commercially but it's surely in an advanced development stage at Apple. There's no reason why Apple couldn't aim at an A11 pre-iPhone debut with an iPad Pro if they wanted to.

Provided they get good enough yields from the get go, so it doesn't put supply at risk for the iPhone, of course.

I'm kinda happy waiting for October and hopefully getting an A11X, honestly.

And man, given that even more of the iPad's power budget is about lighting the screen, I can't wait to see what the battery life* is like with the better-than-big.LITTLE tech and OLED.

*did I say battery life? I meant thinness lmao

Chittagong · May 10, 2017

Is my iPad Pro dead? Yesterday it kept rebooting by itself, and today when I arrived home it had shut down itself. When I rebooted it I was treated to this moving magenta static, it won't go past the logo.

jts · May 10, 2017

Chittagong said:
Is my iPad Pro dead? Yesterday it kept rebooting by itself, and today when I arrived home it had shut down itself. When I rebooted it I was treated to this moving magenta static, it won't go past the logo.

If DFU can't fix it, then... probably.

Zeyphersan · May 10, 2017

Chittagong said:
Is my iPad Pro dead? Yesterday it kept rebooting by itself, and today when I arrived home it had shut down itself. When I rebooted it I was treated to this moving magenta static, it won't go past the logo.

I'm gonna say yes, most likely

Deku Tree · May 10, 2017

What happens when you plug it into a Mac? You could try to restore.

Stinkles · May 10, 2017

Anyone got a solution for my Pro beeping like mad in my bag, as the cover magnetic disconnects and reconnects in a rapid loop? Looking online it seems LOTS of people are experiencing that (and the associated battery drain) but as usual the Apple forums are just a bunch of people saying "never happened to me, you must be doing something wrong."

Zeyphersan · May 10, 2017

Stinkles said:
Anyone got a solution for my Pro beeping like mad in my bag, as the cover magnetic disconnects and reconnects in a rapid loop? Looking online it seems LOTS of people are experiencing that (and the associated battery drain) but as usual the Apple forums are just a bunch of people saying "never happened to me, you must be doing something wrong."

Is it the keyboard cover? I have the Smart Cover but the iPad doesn't beep when I open or close it

Stinkles · May 10, 2017

Zeyphersan said:
Is it the keyboard cover? I have the Smart Cover but the iPad doesn't beep when I open or close it

It's a bug. The type cover specifically. It's making a "connect/disconnect" alert. Just thousands of times unless you notice. Which on a plane is a big problem. It's happened on three flights so far and doesn't matter how the Pro is stored.

Zeyphersan · May 10, 2017

Stinkles said:
It's a bug. The type cover specifically. It's making a "connect/disconnect" alert. Just thousands of times unless you notice. Which on a plane is a big problem. It's happened on three flights so far and doesn't matter how the Pro is stored.

Apple just extended warranties for their smart keyboards

https://9to5mac.com/2017/05/08/appl...pair-program-sticking-keys-functional-issues/

Might be worth looking into

Chittagong · May 11, 2017

jts said:
If DFU can't fix it, then... probably.

Amazingly, hooking my iPad to a Mac, and doing an one minute hold reboot and full restore resurrected it. It was dead as a dodo before, just flashing magenta static on an Apple logo. Now it's working fine again. It's kinda impressive how massively iOS can shit the bed while keeping the Apple logo intact.

Stinkles · May 11, 2017

Zeyphersan said:
Apple just extended warranties for their smart keyboards

https://9to5mac.com/2017/05/08/appl...pair-program-sticking-keys-functional-issues/

Might be worth looking into

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Zeyphersan · May 11, 2017

Stinkles said:
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mrklaw · May 11, 2017

I want a more affordable big screen iPad. My current 9.7" pro is pretty much a portable TV in our house so I want as big a screen as possible

Blackhead · May 14, 2017

I'm looking for a new tablet stand; a replacement for my pad pivot i.e. I need to use it on my lap (on the couch) and on my chest (in bed). Here are two reviews:

any suggestions?

Zeyphersan · May 14, 2017

Blackhead said:
I'm looking for a new tablet stand; a replacement for my pad pivot i.e. I need to use it on my lap (on the couch) and on my chest (in bed). Here are two reviews:

any suggestions?

Does it need to be a stand? What iPad do you have?

Blackhead · May 14, 2017

Zeyphersan said:
Does it need to be a stand? What iPad do you have?

It doesn't need to be a stand I guess.
12.9"

Zeyphersan · May 15, 2017

Blackhead said:
It doesn't need to be a stand I guess.
12.9"

Damn. I have a case recommendation for the 9.7 but it doesn't come in a 12.9 size

Zeyphersan · May 24, 2017

I do wish Apple would crib some stuff from the Surface line. I say that in this thread, which is a safe space.

Name a way for the Pencil to attach to the iPad without a case to do all the work and a non-cumbersome keyboard, though I guess if they make it a really elegant keyboard cover like the Surface line the iPad itself would need a way to prop itself up and whoops then you've just made a Surface

I think it's a solvable problem. I would be totally fine with a keyboard cover but not the monstrosity they have out now

Shearie · May 24, 2017

Zeyphersan said:
I do wish Apple would crib some stuff from the Surface line. I say that in this thread, which is a safe space.

Name a way for the Pencil to attach to the iPad without a case to do all the work and a non-cumbersome keyboard, though I guess if they make it a really elegant keyboard cover like the Surface line the iPad itself would need a way to prop itself up and whoops then you've just made a Surface

I think it's a solvable problem. I would be totally fine with a keyboard cover but not the monstrosity they have out now

What's wrong with the Smart Keyboard? I have one for my 9.7" and it's great. The keys feel nice and responsive, it keeps the iPad super sturdy when tapping the screen hard, it's easy to move from keyboard stand mode to flat and vice versa, and it's easy to take the iPad on and off it. It even worked well while typing on it on my lap today (which is something I only do in emergency situations where I don't have a desk in front of me but I need to quickly write notes. Not much of a laptop guy).

Zeyphersan · May 24, 2017

Shearie said:
What's wrong with the Smart Keyboard? I have one for my 9.7" and it's great. The keys feel nice and responsive, it keeps the iPad super sturdy when tapping the screen hard, it's easy to move from keyboard stand mode to flat and vice versa, and it's easy to take the iPad on and off it. It even worked well while typing on it on my lap today (which is something I only do in emergency situations where I don't have a desk in front of me but I need to quickly write notes. Not much of a laptop guy).

Only one angle and I don't like the gymnastics you have to do, at least at first, to get it to go from cover to keyboard mode. And I don't like the bump when it's a cover, which is a consequence of it also needing to be the stand

Blackhead · May 24, 2017

I wish we didn't need a physical keyboard at all. If Apple developed a revolutionary tablet software keyboard or 'input system' ― maybe swiping, maybe something with the pen, maybe something totally new ― that would be a key step in the quest for iPads to replace laptops.

Microsoft doesn't care about Windows 10 software keyboards because the Surface has that cover with keyboard+trackpad (although windows is getting a virtual trackpad soon and the pen mode is surprisingly quite useful for entering text) but I don't know what's Apple's excuse for barely making any innovations to the iPad software keyboard since Gen 1. Google/Android is whatever

sarcastor · May 27, 2017

Blackhead said:
I'm looking for a new tablet stand; a replacement for my pad pivot i.e. I need to use it on my lap (on the couch) and on my chest (in bed).

any suggestions?

I use this keyboard case. Right now on my chest in bed and it's awesome. It's a bit plasticky but the iPad holder part is really firm and it works great as a faux laptop too

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01AJOWGVM/?tag=neogaf0e-20

SomewhatGroovy · Jun 1, 2017

My wife is looking for something she can use to create basic labels and ads for her small business (on top of the media perks of a tablet). She currently uses a combo of Google Docs and Microsoft Word and Powerpoint.

Would a 2017 iPad suffice or would the extra $200 or so for a Pro be a better fit?

Zeyphersan · Jun 1, 2017

SomewhatGroovy said:
My wife is looking for something she can use to create basic labels and ads for her small business (on top of the media perks of a tablet). She currently uses a combo of Google Docs and Microsoft Word and Powerpoint.

Would a 2017 iPad suffice or would the extra $200 or so for a Pro be a better fit?

Does she have any interest in using the Pencil for sketching/writing/signing?

SomewhatGroovy · Jun 1, 2017

Zeyphersan said:
Does she have any interest in using the Pencil for sketching/writing/signing?

She does not. She uses a slew of pre-made templates and such to put together logos etc.

Zeyphersan · Jun 1, 2017

SomewhatGroovy said:
She does not. She uses a slew of pre-made templates and such to put together logos etc.

If there's no interest in the pencil or Smart Keyboard accessories than the 2017 iPad should serve her just fine if she's looking to save a few hundred dollars

SomewhatGroovy · Jun 2, 2017

Zeyphersan said:
If there's no interest in the pencil or Smart Keyboard accessories than the 2017 iPad should serve her just fine if she's looking to save a few hundred dollars

Really appreciate the input

justjohn · Jun 5, 2017

I've searched google but couldn't find an answer. Has the Pro got hand recognition on miscrosoft word? As in write a letter on word using the stylus and it automatically converts to a typical word font or do I have to use the keyboard if I want to use Word?

SourBear · Jun 5, 2017

With the new 10.5 pro is the size okay for drawing or is the 13 pro still preferred for resting your hand and not being awkward to work with while drawing?

randome · Jun 5, 2017

I wanna get my mom a new iPad. Is the $329 one the one to get or the old iPad Pro? How much will the old pro be? Thank you!!

Very Berry Sunday · Jun 6, 2017

The 10" and 12" iPad Pros seem to have the same specs. Why should I get the 12" iPad over the 10" iPad for $150 more? Is there anything I'm missing?

jts · Jun 6, 2017

Very Berry Sunday said:
The 10" and 12" iPad Pros seem to have the same specs. Why should I get the 12" iPad over the 10" iPad for $150 more? Is there anything I'm missing?

2.4" more diagonal which is a good bit of display real estate. Plus the extra resolution and battery that comes with it, speakers should be slightly better too.

But it comes down mainly to a size choice.

Deadstar · Jun 6, 2017

Very Berry Sunday said:
The 10" and 12" iPad Pros seem to have the same specs. Why should I get the 12" iPad over the 10" iPad for $150 more? Is there anything I'm missing?

Better for reading comics.

Vyer · Jun 6, 2017

justjohn said:
I've searched google but couldn't find an answer. Has the Pro got hand recognition on miscrosoft word? As in write a letter on word using the stylus and it automatically converts to a typical word font or do I have to use the keyboard if I want to use Word?

There are some handwriting to text apps, but it's not in the mobile version of Word.

randome said:
I wanna get my mom a new iPad. Is the $329 one the one to get or the old iPad Pro? How much will the old pro be? Thank you!!

Yeah, unless she needs the pencil you should be fine with the standard 'new ipad'. The 9.7 pro will probably still be more expensive, but I don't know what they are going to do with it exactly

sirap · Jun 6, 2017

Very Berry Sunday said:
The 10" and 12" iPad Pros seem to have the same specs. Why should I get the 12" iPad over the 10" iPad for $150 more? Is there anything I'm missing?

It's really down to personal preference. Do you want a bigger canvas or larger screen for watching entertainment? Definitely get the larger Pro. I also find the bigger smart keyboard much more comfortable for typing (if you're into that)

However, if I wanted a portable, digital notepad for writing down notes with the Pencil I would choose the smaller iPad.

Deku Tree · Jun 6, 2017

So do I need a 10.5? or a 12.9? Can't decide if the 12.9 is too big.

Also 64 or 256? 256 is way more than I would need but worried that 64 is not enough...

Zeyphersan · Jun 6, 2017

Deku Tree said:
So do I need a 10.5? or a 12.9? Can't decide if the 12.9 is too big.

Also 64 or 256? 256 is way more than I would need but worried that 64 is not enough...

I started with a 12.9 when it came out and switched to a 9.7 a couple months ago. I was moving around more and the extra portable was more important to me than the big screen

Your usage is what will determine it, now that the features are the same between both

exmachina64 · Jun 6, 2017

Deku Tree said:
So do I need a 10.5? or a 12.9? Can't decide if the 12.9 is too big.

Also 64 or 256? 256 is way more than I would need but worried that 64 is not enough...

Always go higher than you think you need.

Vyer · Jun 6, 2017

The new screen on the 12.9 will probably be glorious. And it's really not at all 'heavy' or unwieldy.

But man, that extra half pound can still make more difference than you'd expect. If the 12.9 was just a little lighter it would be absolutely perfect for me.

It's definitely a personal preference thing, and you'd be better suited seeing them in person and comparing.

Deku Tree · Jun 6, 2017

Zeyphersan said:
I started with a 12.9 when it came out and switched to a 9.7 a couple months ago. I was moving around more and the extra portable was more important to me than the big screen

Your usage is what will determine it, now that the features are the same between both

exmachina64 said:
Always go higher than you think you need.

Vyer said:
The new screen on the 12.9 will probably be glorious. And it's really not at all 'heavy' or unwieldy.

But man, that extra half pound can still make more difference than you'd expect. If the 12.9 was just a little lighter it would be absolutely perfect for me.

It's definitely a personal preference thing, and you'd be better suited seeing them in person and comparing.

Thanks! Yeah I have looked at both iPads plenty of times. I just feel like after a while I might not like carrying around the larger one but I don't know for sure. Also I think I can easily get by with 64gb.

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