MaulerX
Member
I'm reading exactly what your saying. If you don't like my interpretation then explain yourself better because the common narrative your trying to build is exactly that: DOWNPLAY
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Digital Foundry: 4k 360 games tested on Xbox One X!
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I'm reading exactly what your saying. If you don't like my interpretation then explain yourself better because the common narrative your trying to build is exactly that: DOWNPLAY
Krisprolls
Banned
Wow, some of you can get really defensive. Okay, congrats for reinventing the wheel, I guess...
Djungelfrukt
Member
You could argue that this is a response to what you would call a flop. The Xbox brand has had to do a lot of recovering, and this is one of the ways that theyre going about it. But for arguments sake, as a non-interested consumer, would you rather them not having BC or offering their titles on other platforms? Would that generate your interest?
I think he is saying that MS needs to rip people off and charge them twice for the same thing cause he is more concerned with a companies bottom line than the value a console company gives him.
MaximusPayne
Member
You come into a console specific thread to downplay the topic and wonder why you get reactions. Come on, man.
Beerman462
Member
This is just sad. If Sony announced BC tomorrow for PS3/PS2 people would lose their minds. Its a great value and it's good for console owners. You keep bragging about how you can do it on PC. Me too duder, but it should be standard on consoles.
BTW did you forget Sony didn't charge for online last gen? That was a bragging right as a PS3 player and for good reason. Now you are championing charging for multiplayer as if it's the only way for platform holders to make money.
You are the type of warrior that chops off his own nose to spite someone elses face lol.
Wait did you brag about pirating Windows?
I mean someone paid right?
phil_t98
#SonyToo
depends what your model is? sell more than the last console (360) they had at the same time frame then they have a good business model, if its to be the biggest selling console that's a bad business model as they wont achieve that this gen
It's the old "if your not first your last mentality" like every company that isn't number one in sales for a particular item should just give it up and pack it in.
Even companies that are not #1 in sales can offer good products and services people feel are better to them then the market leader, also competition should help drive value and put heat on the market leader.
Sony fans would rather live in a one console world where a single company dictates to them what is best for them. Yep it is weird how they think this way, but here we are.
Dayum! Makes me want to replay the og trilogy.But I didn't pay for this....
Krisprolls
Banned
Certainly not. Competition generally drags prices down. I'd actually prefer Xbox was more competitive. Right now Sony is free to do what they want because there's hardly any competition worldwide.
On the other hand, MS is the corp which made us pay for online gaming (THAT is for sure their creation, a lot more than the possibility to play older games in higher res), it was free before them, so I'm not sure competition is that good for consumers when your competitor is MS.
Whatever you want dude. I'm happy for you.
rokkerkory
Member
It's great to get BC games but amazing to get enhanced BC games @ full 4k!
Beerman462
Member
MS changed console online for the better with Live. Charging for it sucks, but people pay for it. It's great that you only see the negative about one company though. Is paying for online bad or is it the only way they make money?
Sony isn't doing true BC, because they want to sell it as a service.
Lol no. MS didn't force Sony, and Nintendo to charge for their own online services.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
These BC enhancements are really an awesome move by MS in designing the X
Beerman462
Member
This BC makes me want to buy an X. So its working for me. It will also help sell consoles to people who haven't moved on from 360 yet. They can bring almost their entire library forward.
Are they selling these games digitally? Is there a way to buy Ninja Gaiden Bkack?
MS is responsible for all negative gaming trends.
Sony just wants to do what's right for the gamers and doesn't care about profits.
Didn't you know?
Are they selling these games digitally? Is there a way to buy Ninja Gaiden Bkack?
MS is responsible for all negative gaming trends.
Sony just wants to do what's right for the gamers and doesn't care about profits.
Didn't you know?
Krisprolls
Banned
Of course not, but they definitely gave them the idea. Don't be naive, the writing was on the wall as soon as Xbox Live was introduced.
NGB is available via digital.
Would love to get JE, and more 360 games.
And it's still up to those companies to implement it. I'm not going to blame Apple if other companies decide to remove their headphone jack.
Beerman462
Member
Back during OG Xbox where console online was a joke on everything but Live?
Honestly you aren't even trying to be objective.
Good to hear. My 360 is on it's last legs and I love playing Ninja Gaiden every few years.
Also good point on Live. I don't agree with paying for it so I don't, but the market spoke.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
As far as I'm aware not even the Xbox One X has enough juice to emulate PS3 games, so if Sony was to do it the base PS4 would need to at least play PS3 games, let alone improve them.
Yeah thats Jak and Daxter, but games like MGS2, Silent Hill 2, Persona 3/4, Onimusha series still hold up.
Being able to just pop your disc in like Xbox One would be fantastic.
No I'm a Sony fan and I think it's embarrassing that the PS4 can't even play PS1 games but my Phone can do it it in resolutions above 1080p.
PS4 should be able to play those games as they were, HD and enhancements should be there too and we shouldn't have to rebuy them from a piss poor selection.
Djungelfrukt
Member
Online gaming on consoles was nothing before Microsoft introduced Xbox Live, I hope you realise that. But sure, if you want to claim that Xbox Live (and BC for that matter) was bad for consumers, go ahead.
goldenpp72
Member
I wouldn't call Dreamcast nothing. It had a large amount of online games that worked decent on dial up and eventually supported broadband. Xbox live innovated in some ways but it would have been a natural progression had DC survived. Titles like PSO did a lot of interesting things online wise and the system even supported cross platform play in some titles, something I don't believe the original Xbox ever allowed.
Xbox introduced broadband only, universal voice chat and friend list, along with inconsistent p2p service with a 50 dollar fee. As someone who played through the DC life, the Xbox live service always felt iterative rather than something special. DC even had DLC, for free. The 360 having the system built into the dash and introducing XBLA were much neater as a console user imo.
Dreamcast even got a 8 player voice chat enabled game at the end of its life, even on dial up it worked well due to some tricks it employed.
intheinbetween
Member
I only tried Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey, and oh my, what a nice improvement over the original ones!
Ninja Gaiden is awesome. Remember when I beat it for the first time on og Xbox.
Hopefully we get 2, and 3.
and OG Xbox games.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
There's a thread on XB1X Enhanced games already. How many XB1X threads are we gonna have?
Beerman462
Member
primovinny
Member
I don't know why you people keep answering Krispolls. He is definitely trolling around. I mean, look at his posts and his logic. It's MS= bad, Sony = good, PC = God. No matter the subject, no matter the time period, that truth stands out for him. Shame really, it does show how damaging to one brains fanboyism really is.
Now those enhancements looks nice, I like that! Hoping for some more to come, especially from Bethesda since that company seems to be doing everything but working on the new Elder Scrolls.
Now those enhancements looks nice, I like that! Hoping for some more to come, especially from Bethesda since that company seems to be doing everything but working on the new Elder Scrolls.
Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
There has always been threads on digital Foundry videos, why change now?
Because Sony fans are butt hurt that the front page is filled with positive Xbox threads
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
This forwards compatibility initiative is something I hope both Nintendo and Sony follow suit on.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
Honest question, do you feel like your narrative is really helping this community?
I am a Gaming Fan.
Sorry if the truth hurts, maybe some actual truth and balance will help this place out compared to the way it was and how it got to this point.
X gon give it to ya
LOL.
It got to this point with posts like yours in this thread.
Edit:. I quoted the wrong person. Sorry mad. Carry on.
TLZ
Banned
I like what the X is doing for the 360 and OG. I just wish it was with every game I feed it, not just the patched or in BC list. Problem with this method is that years from now when online support is over, BC is dead on X. And we won't be sure of the next Xbox would already have the same BC list supported.
Makes you think on which platform to get your games on moving forward.
Really hope both companies take a hard look at what ms is doing.
rokkerkory
Member
agree
If you want to get technical, the PS3 not having a subscription model meant they didn't really have many dedicated servers. This was very likely a result of those "online passes" that acted as the first types of "DLC" in games - which likely led to publishers thinking of other ways they could start charging extra money for menial digital packages.
And now here we are with actual government parties voting on whether or not microtransactions/lootboxes should be considered a gambling-like activity.
It was always new news new thread on here. Plus there is an article and video to watch and discuss.
goldenpp72
Member
The original Xbox and the 360 didn't use dedicated servers often either i'm pretty sure.
AmericanPixel
Member
Gears 3 looks sooooo good.
Beerman462
Member
You need to get your sarcasm meter checked or you need to look at the rest of my posts for context.
Gideon_128
Member
Mirrors Edge on the X looks sublime. I would love to see Red Dead and Alan Wake get a patch also.
