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"I need a new PC!" 2010 Edition
- Thread starter Spy
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im thinking about upgrading at around June
this is what i came up with
Coolermaster Cosmos S
Corsair CMPSU-650HXEU
Corsair 3x2GB DDR3 PC10666 CL9.0 XMS3
LG BH08 8 X
INTEL CORE I7 920 (D0-STEPPING)
Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ, 1TB
Asus EAH5850/G/2DIS/1GD5
Noctua NH-D14
Asus P6T Deluxe V2
920 will prob be replaced by 930 now that i think about it, but im gonna keep an eye on prices
this is what i came up with
Coolermaster Cosmos S
Corsair CMPSU-650HXEU
Corsair 3x2GB DDR3 PC10666 CL9.0 XMS3
LG BH08 8 X
INTEL CORE I7 920 (D0-STEPPING)
Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ, 1TB
Asus EAH5850/G/2DIS/1GD5
Noctua NH-D14
Asus P6T Deluxe V2
920 will prob be replaced by 930 now that i think about it, but im gonna keep an eye on prices
Hmm, deciding to go with a new PC build. I have the case only and I'm deciding to go with an i5 processor, haven't chose it yet though.
After buying the case I say I have £500 to spend, might go up to £600 but unsure of what to get.
Will be a gaming PC running Windows 7 (already got a license)
Anyone got any ideas what's best to go with?
Thanks
Edit: Already have Hard Drive but tempted to get an SSD if the price is right and can fit in the budget.
After buying the case I say I have £500 to spend, might go up to £600 but unsure of what to get.
Will be a gaming PC running Windows 7 (already got a license)
Anyone got any ideas what's best to go with?
Thanks
Edit: Already have Hard Drive but tempted to get an SSD if the price is right and can fit in the budget.
pseudocaesar
Member
I only just built mine a little while back, but I have a better paying job now and little debts.
Here is my current set up.
Phenom II X4 Black
Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P Motherboard
4 GB DDR2 800
Radeon HD4890 1GB
WD Caviar Black 640GB
Antec Two Hundred case
Arctic Cooling Fusion 550R PSU
Main thing I wanna upgrade is my RAM, and the Mobo to go with it as it is DDR2 only. If I get a new mobo, say the Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4, and some 1066 DDR3 ram, will the rest of the computer keep up so to speak? Is anything else glaringly obviously bad?
Here is my current set up.
Phenom II X4 Black
Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P Motherboard
4 GB DDR2 800
Radeon HD4890 1GB
WD Caviar Black 640GB
Antec Two Hundred case
Arctic Cooling Fusion 550R PSU
Main thing I wanna upgrade is my RAM, and the Mobo to go with it as it is DDR2 only. If I get a new mobo, say the Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4, and some 1066 DDR3 ram, will the rest of the computer keep up so to speak? Is anything else glaringly obviously bad?
I'm looking for an application that overlays your wallpaper with all the monitoring details that you could ever want such as CPU usage, network activity and so forth. I saw a screenshot of someones desktop earlier that was using this and it was far more details and less annoying than using Windows Gadgets. Does anyone know the name for this?
Edit: Off topic-ish?
Edit: Off topic-ish?
Servizio
I don't really need a tag, but I figured I'd get one to make people jealous. Is it working?
Shambles said:
You want Rainmeter. I believe the OP of the desktop thread in the OT has a lot of info about those kinds of widgets.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=383720
pseudocaesar said:
Agreed with above. Your system is good and upgrading will give you very little value for your money. If you're really looking to treat your PC I'd recommend adding another hard drive, possibly RAIDing it, or if you're looking to spend quite a bit pick up a SSD that you can use in any future system as well.
pseudocaesar
Member
Fair enough. Its just that perhaps I had too high expectations from it to begin with.
I'm considering getting a Dell U2410. Anyone have any nice or not so nice things to say about it? I've never owned a non-TN Panel before. It looks like it has a gaming mode to reduce input lag which is pretty cool.
Gerald Preston
Neo Member
Ok, is there any reason why the 4770 is still at a high price? I was hoping these would drop so I could crossfire the one I got back in May but I can't justify paying over $100 for something I paid $85 for even with the improved cooler.
I haven't been in PC Gaming for long enough, but wouldn't they just discontinue them instead? That's seems to be why it's pricey. Lack of stock.Gerald Preston said:
In Canada, Dell usually has frequent sales and coupons so yeah I'd hope you could get it a bit cheaper than that... Seems like a great monitor. I really wish I'd gone with an IPS as well.Fredescu said:
Gerald Preston
Neo Member
Firestorm said:
Metalic Sand
who is Emo-Beas?
Any reason for me to have 4 Gigs of DDR3 on Vista 32 bit?
Think i may have asked this before but im about to pull the trigger on a stick just to be rdy for when i can be hooked up with 64 bit 7.
Think i may have asked this before but im about to pull the trigger on a stick just to be rdy for when i can be hooked up with 64 bit 7.
D
Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
I think the problem I mentioned earlier with artifacting and my 5870 may have been due to driver problems. I uninstalled the newest drivers and then restarted my system. Windows 7 automatically installed some drivers which were from September, but so far I haven't had any artifacting problems in any of the games I mentioned earlier. The performance doesn't seem to have changed either so I might be good to go.
Is there anything you would change about the PC I'm going to build for my little brother?
COOLER MASTER Elite RC-310 Black and Gray ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119204
ASUS Radeon HD 5750 1GB Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121356
AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition 3.1GHz Dual-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103680
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226113
ASUS 785G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131398
Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache Internal Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136320
COOLER MASTER Silent Pro 600W 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171036
Total: $691.94
The 600W Power Supply is for the eventual CrossFire.
COOLER MASTER Elite RC-310 Black and Gray ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119204
ASUS Radeon HD 5750 1GB Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121356
AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition 3.1GHz Dual-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103680
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226113
ASUS 785G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131398
Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache Internal Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136320
COOLER MASTER Silent Pro 600W 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171036
Total: $691.94
The 600W Power Supply is for the eventual CrossFire.
The following parts are on their way to me:
Core i7 860 (going to OC it)
HD5850
8GB of DDR3 RAM
1TB 7200 RPM HD
Will this 550W PSU be good enough for the setup? Not too concerned since I'm only using one GPU, and people seem to be using it with HD4850's.
Core i7 860 (going to OC it)
HD5850
8GB of DDR3 RAM
1TB 7200 RPM HD
Will this 550W PSU be good enough for the setup? Not too concerned since I'm only using one GPU, and people seem to be using it with HD4850's.
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
Xenon said:
Sounds like that core is defective, but you still got yourself a tri-core upgrade in the end, now it's time to overclock that baby!
TouchMyBox
Member
Spy said:
If he plans on doing crossfire, you'd want a board that can do better than 4x on the second pci-e slot.
brain_stew
Member
Slight corrections for the op. EVGA precision can be used to OC any Nvidia GPU (and its the easiest way to do so) just get the download from Guru3D
You don't use ATI Tool to OC GPUs these days, but its useful for its built in stress test.
You don't use ATI Tool to OC GPUs these days, but its useful for its built in stress test.
brain_stew
Member
Spy said:
A triple core is a minimum these days. Switch to an Athlon ii X3 for the same price.
Bump up to a 5770 if its to be used for gaming.
brain_stew
Member
NIGHT- said:
$500-$600 should cover it and that'll net you about 3x console level performance.
Xenon said:
Stress test in OCCT. You may need to bump up the voltage to get that extra core stable.
DR2K said:
I'd go with something like:
Gigabyte 770 mobo
4GB DDR3
ATI 4890 or 5850 budget allowing
~500W branded PSU
Sata DVDRW drive
640GB/1TB SATA HDD
Phenom ii X4 925/955
Case is personal preference really
Firestorm said:
The X3 720 is overpriced these days imo.
Either save cash and pick up an Athlon ii X3 435 or splurge a little and go for a Phenom ii X4 925 for an extra $20.
brain_stew
Member
Blackface said:
It absolutely is, I've got plenty personal experience with the old E2xxx series CPUs (paired with an 8800GT/4850 and a GTX 260), and they're still a more than adequate gaming CPU once OCed.
Vinterbird said:
It'll handle Crysis at high (or close to very high through custom configs) at 1680x1050 just fine.
brain_stew said:
Can you recommend me a good mobo/CPU combo for a good price? It's obvious I am not going anywhere with my LGA775 board so I need something that's affordable (I don't want to keep burning cash) while delivering the best performance for the price. I'll be using this same case, PSU and GPU, maybe use the same RAM sticks if compatible if not add new ones.
brain_stew
Member
Stop It said:
I'd rather GAFers didn't fund the BNP by buying from here, personally, thanks. The owner is a racist cunt who is an active financial backer of them evil bastards.
brain_stew
Member
Relix said:
CPU for AMD platforms, on the lower end:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...103724&cm_re=athlon_x3-_-19-103-724-_-Product
Midrange:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...03656&cm_re=phenom_925-_-19-103-656-_-Product
Higher end:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103674&cm_re=955-_-19-103-674-_-Product
Those are the only 3 AMD processor's GAFers should be considering really. The Athlon X4 620 is worth throwing in if you're either not interested in gaming or want a nice OCing project.
In terms of VFM, this motherboard comes out on top time and again:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...392&cm_re=gigabyte_770-_-13-128-392-_-Product
Only 2 6+2 pins?Spy said:
I'd grab this PSU instead.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006
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As for the HDD make sure you get a 320GB or high platter for faster speeds. (See reviews)
I'm not sure but I think the one you linked is the 250GB version. I believe that there are also 500GB platters out now, but not positive.
If I had to suggest something I would get a WD6400AAKS drive.
BravoSuperStar
Member
brain_stew said:
I just built a micro ATX media PC with a Athlon X4 620, got it in a combo with this mobo for $158:
http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=ef0qgvMIwOUagAVl
The stock heatsink/fan is trash, gotta get something better before I OC' it. So far im impressed with it for a low price quad core CPU. I would even suggest it over the X3 rana for a low end AMD build since it's only $13 more plus free shipping.
I threw in my old ATI 4870, and a 2gb ram Geil ddr2 800 sitck I had laying around with a 750gb seagate drive. Gets over 14000 in 3dmark2k6, only bench I've really run I literally just put it together a couple days ago.
brain_stew
Member
SuperEnemyCrab said:
Its definitely an interesting choice, I've only held back on recommending it wholesale for gamers because there's still a lot of dual core optimised games out there that have demands that are possibly slightly above what you'd get out of a stock X4 620. The 2.9ghz speed of a 435 is the right side of where you want to be but 2.6ghz is kind of borderline for me, but getting 3ghz out of it even on the trash stock cooler should be easy as pie (if you could try that it'd be wonderful) and that's when things get interesting for me. Anand managed to hit 3.25ghz on stock volts and cooling, which is pretty nice.
If you can, I'd like to see how it holds up at stock in stuff like Crysis, Stalker and any other high end games that aren't particularly multithreaded that you can think of. If its good enough at stock that it won't bottleneck a 4870 class GPU at high settings then there's no reason not to go with it really, as most CPU heavy new releases are optimised for at least three threads these days and in them it'll spank any high end dual core for under $100, which is really nice.
Fwiw, if I was in the market for a low cost quad, and I very well may be soon, it would get some serious consideration from me as once that thing's clocked its going to eat up anything you throw at it. That its on a platform with a bright future is even better.
Oh, and since we've been discussing SSDs lately, I suggest everyone read this, as it looks like Intel have finally been dethroned as SSD speed kings:
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3702
Edit: Here's a table of X4 620 OC's from www.overclock.net users, seems 3.4-3.6ghz on low end air is very much an achievable target which really makes it a great little chip imo. Definitely a great low cost option for OCers (and really we should all be OCers imo, if you can build a rig, you can OC a chip).
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=taqpnD0wwBf7ZIijViCtnFA&w=100&h=500
brain_stew
Member
Struct09 said:
Comfortably.
NIGHT- said:
The AM3 platform (w/ DDR3) is the most upgrade friendly platform on the market.
Like I say though, I wouldn't go with that CPU, there's better VFM options.
brain_stew
Member
Lkr said:
There's not much point in trying to max it out, your basically just killing performance for the sake of it once you move those sliders past a certain point.
Rockstar really should ahve explained those sliders better. Its annoying as fuck to know that it would have been received better if they capped it at console quality settings.
Hey GAF,
here's what I have :
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+
ASRock K10N78FullHD-hSLI R3.0 AM2+ socket mobo
4 GB DDR2 800
Nvidia GT220
Vista x64 Ultimate
Thinking of upgrading to a 940 black edition and switching out the GPU for a 5850 (Not sure my case has a 6-pin power connector though)
Would that bring me up to current 1080 gaming at high? Also would I need a new case for the 6 pin power connector or can I get some type of adaptor ?
here's what I have :
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+
ASRock K10N78FullHD-hSLI R3.0 AM2+ socket mobo
4 GB DDR2 800
Nvidia GT220
Vista x64 Ultimate
Thinking of upgrading to a 940 black edition and switching out the GPU for a 5850 (Not sure my case has a 6-pin power connector though)
Would that bring me up to current 1080 gaming at high? Also would I need a new case for the 6 pin power connector or can I get some type of adaptor ?
teacupcopter
Banned
So at some point this year I want a new PC
depending on how things go maybe even one of those 3d cards/3d screens? I'd like to see some old games in 3D, but I don't know how they work... the other 3d nvidia thread had someone talking about Fallout 3, so does that stuff work with any old game? Or just specific ones?
Anyway I'm not wanting to be like spending a bajillion dollars here anyway, and the 3D stuff is definitely optional (probably just me wishing), is there a predicted specific point this year I should pounce on (i.e. after a certain price drop or card release)
I've heard many stories of people upgrading at the 'wrong' time and spending WAY more than they would've a very short time later, or spending the same amount but a killer card coming out shortly after.
Thanks guys
I'm in Australia btw, and looking at mostly a gaming PC (obviously) and probably getting an SSD for the OS install.
depending on how things go maybe even one of those 3d cards/3d screens? I'd like to see some old games in 3D, but I don't know how they work... the other 3d nvidia thread had someone talking about Fallout 3, so does that stuff work with any old game? Or just specific ones?
Anyway I'm not wanting to be like spending a bajillion dollars here anyway, and the 3D stuff is definitely optional (probably just me wishing
), is there a predicted specific point this year I should pounce on (i.e. after a certain price drop or card release)I've heard many stories of people upgrading at the 'wrong' time and spending WAY more than they would've a very short time later, or spending the same amount but a killer card coming out shortly after.
Thanks guys
I'm in Australia btw, and looking at mostly a gaming PC (obviously) and probably getting an SSD for the OS install.
brain_stew
Member
Lkr said:
Put it this way the console version of the game sets its two main sliders at just 21% and 10% of what's possible on the PC version. There's also sliders for stuff completely absent in the console version as well and you quadruple the texture resolution. Add in the extra resolution and nearly triple the framerate demands og your friend and you're asking it to do about 30x as much as it does on a console. Unsuprisingly that comes with equally steap hardware requiremens, requirements that can not be met by today's hardware, PC hardware may be far ahead of console tech. but its not that far ahead.
Basically "maxed out" GTA4 isn't meant for today's hardware, and past a point you'll get some seriously diminishing returns. I love that they gave the option for the game to improve with hardware (even if the effects are very minor) but its caused a lot of backlash from people that need to be saved from their own naivety.