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Rumor: MS cuts the XO price to 349,99
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EmptySpace
Banned
so they'll be dropping the price even further given that they still lost june when their supposed band-aid solution didn't work..One of my workmates is, actually. He said he would buy a Kinectless version for around 350 euros. So that's at least oen sale
sucks for peeps who bought xbone after the price drop only to drop in price further 2 months after.
And we all know how well the surface tabs are selling
Can you honestly say that ms will make money on that NFL deal?
$400m is a lot to make back when your estimates of consoles sold is way behind the graph.
Vinterbird
Member
They already announced all launch consoles get Fifa 15 and Forza 5 included for free.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
One of my workmates is, actually. He said he would buy a Kinectless version for around 350 euros. So that's at least oen sale
Or he could wait another month or so and see if it hits 300 with a deal at a retailer. This isn't going to move a massive amount of stock, let's not kid ourselves. Once the price is in free fall it's basicly just a matter of getting the best deals.
Duxxy3
Member
And we all know how well the surface tabs are selling
Can you honestly say that ms will make money on that NFL deal?
$400m is a lot to make back when your estimates of consoles sold is way behind the graph.
Not a chance in hell. The deal was too centered on one country, especially for that ridiculous amount of money.
Lol I really don't know how xbone makes profit if they keep doing these crazy bundles.
I'm sure they'll probably have some exclusive dlc for FIFA 15.
maybe i'm wrong, but isn't that for tier 2 countries only?
Fox_Mulder
Rockefellers. Skull and Bones. Microsoft. Al Qaeda. A Cabal of Bankers. The melting point of steel. What do these things have in common? Wake up sheeple, the landfill wasn't even REAL!
That's like another price drop.
One of my workmates is, actually. He said he would buy a Kinectless version for around 350 euros. So that's at least oen sale
So he was mulling over 50 when the thing is actually on sale a lot of the time and offered with free pack-in games right now?
Yeah, I call bullshit.
That doesn't lower the entry price. It is not.
Yeah sure, but if you think that way you will never buy any hardware/gadget/system or whatever. "It's going to be cheaper soon!"
I told him many times, but he's a "go to retail store and buy" guy without looking at sales, not my fault.
Vinterbird
Member
True, I just see this fall as their blog Europe launch and forgot about Tier 1. But an Europe wide bundle would be even better.
SwiftDeath
Member
I feel like I should mention that I don't actually find one price change advertised on only the mobile site of one European Xbox site particularly strong evidence. It's certainly possible but I feel that MS isn't ready to drop it yet
Noisepurge
Member
yeah the console hasn't even been released in most european countries yet. This could be the new price for our markets.
I think this puts the €399 bundle on the French site into perspective. If the sales continue to be this bad we might get it though.
Man, things sure are escalating quickly today. Yesterday we were at PS4 outselling Xbox One 3:1 in Germany (the actual numbers released). Now in this thread, suddenly someone claims it is 4:1. And just a few posts down, already 5:1.
Fascinating how that works
Solaire of Astora
Death by black JPN
While we're on the subject of said deal, could someone explain (or link something that explains) what that deal means for xbox/surface owners?
From what I gather, there's some kind of app on xbox one, the coaches use surface tablets and there's some Xbox advertising at games. So in other words, the end user gets a fantasy football app. Is that all?
MoGamesXNA
Unconfirmed Member
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One big problem for MS is that for people like me who owned a 360 before buying a PS3 is that it was easy to buy a PS3 as a second console because online was free, so didn't have to pay twice for online. But now if you want to buy an X1 you would have to pay for Xbox Live in addition to PS+ and I'm not willing to pay for two online services and without Xbox Live I probably don't want an X1.
So in my opinion, MS should rather make Xbox Live free than drop the price of the box itself.
So in my opinion, MS should rather make Xbox Live free than drop the price of the box itself.
EmptySpace
Banned
they're desperate. they'll do whatever it takes to lessen the gap. even at 350 i still think they're making a profit. they're probably not making as much as they hope to. i remember reading that in 2010 a 360 cost 99 bucks to make but they were still selling for 250 bucks.
Infinite_Daremo
Member
Yeh look at this desperation, it clearly makes me not want to buy the console now at this cheaper desperate point. Raise the price again so I can go back to not wanting it!
Mushroomer25
Member
IIRC, it's a branding deal no different from Gatorade or Motorola. They get to be the "Exclusive of the NFL", and have their logo sprinkled in all the sideline footage. As well as all the traditional advertising during the games.
For the user, this really only manifests as a branded Fantasy Football app (which runs on the fairly niche NFL.com Fantasy Football website, making it pretty pointless for frequent players).
gundamkyoukai
Member
There is nothing MS can do even with this price cut , that not going to help them in EU .
I think people forget MS had one and half year advantage in EU last gen and they still lost to more expensive PS3.
Some of that market share they got because of that advantage and they can't get it back this gen.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
That doesn't really apply to PS4 or to iPhones or other gadgets that are doing terrific. Any product with a mild interest like Vita and XBO you can easily wait a few months before getting it so that the price adjusts a bit after demand.
They already announced all launch consoles get Fifa 15 and Forza 5 included for free.
This is only for tier 2 countries and only for pre-orders (sold out = sold out). But unfortunately, it seems the pre-order is still available in many Dutch retailers' website since pre-order launched weeks ago even with such great deals. It indicates bad consumers' feedback.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Didn' the german sales data from GFK show that during 2014 the ps4 outsold the bone 4:1?
Looks like desperate measures are needed.
Looks like desperate measures are needed.
Yeah everything pretty much went right for the xbox 360, way earlier release, way cheaper and better running multiplats, and they still only got 37% vs 63%. 76% to 24% is actually quite impressive if you look at nothing working out in their favor this gen...
SonicColours
Banned
SwiftDeath
Member
Oh I certainly don't believe MS has much hope at maintaining their 360 marketshare in Europe with the XB1 but I'm not convinced they believe the same
I don't know why I was thinking 30, ignore my numbers, I just remembered paying $60 for live twice and deciding never again. That was before PS+ was introduced with free games monthly, now those prices seem more reasonable, but I still think paying twice for online is going to hurt owning multiple consoles this generation.
Dragon Puncher
Member
Yeah, it's kinda crazy to think about and really shows what a terrible position XONE is in. At least nobody can accuse MS of going out without a fight.
Vinterbird
Member
Wording has been that it's not only preorders but just the launch allocation of consoles.
Solaire of Astora
Death by black JPN
Thanks for the explanation. Thinking back to the Xbox one unveil, it's strange how much time they dedicated to this deal when all it really meant was more advertising and an app.
Stare-Bear
Banned
So it will be 299 around Christmas then...
I'm sure it will be 299 with games by Xmas if it continues to sell how it does.
Argh beaten!
Could be 349 with 4 games too
Argh beaten!
Could be 349 with 4 games too
GoofsterStud
Member
So close...I'm sure it will be 299 with games by Xmas if it continues to sell how it does.
Argh beaten!
Could be 349 with 4 games too
I fully expect a Black Friday close to that.
gundamkyoukai
Member
I can just see things getting worst as times goes .
If people think things bad now wait until Sony drops there price .
Mushroomer25
Member
The NFL branding is still a pretty huge deal in the US, at least for market share. The ONE's core non-gamer demographic is going to be watching those games, and considering how dedicated the original pitch was to TV - it makes total sense why they led with the NFL. Plus, the features do demo very well. If you like FF, the abilities they show off looked very cool. (How they actually manifested for the user was another notion entirely).
It was a decision clearly made during the early, "gaming on the side" days of the ONE.
overdrivex
Banned
And we all know how well the surface tabs are selling
Can you honestly say that ms will make money on that NFL deal?
$400m is a lot to make back when your estimates of consoles sold is way behind the graph.
And Yah miss the entire point, the nfl deal has a lot more to do with just xbox , they aren't magically hoping to pay that 400 mill with selling consoles alone, where are you getting you information from. Things like the nfl app ( which is part of the deal )extends to All surface and windows 8 device http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/3/5964489/nfl-app-for-xbox-one-has-sunday-ticket-and-fantasy-football
The deal is to promote their entire ecosystem
HORRORSHØW
Member
Mysterious
Banned
37% vs 63% what? 63% other consoles or 63% PS3s?
Rogue_element
Banned
this is me exactly.
brotkasten
Member
Back in April I've seen Xbox One's with Kinect on ebay for 350 in Germany and I guess that's what most people would pay for. In my opinion, the Xbox One always should've been $/100 cheaper than the PS4 in general and the markets reaction to the console kinda confirmed this, especially in Europe. Not to mention that Xbox as a brand really has no foothold in Europe or at least in the southern countries. Launching it for 499 was insane.
To clarify, at least in Finland the original pre-orders include those two games (FIFA 15 & Forza 5), day 1 branded gamepad and Dance Central Spotlight. The new kinectless pre-order bundle includes FIFA 15 & Forza 5 and this is still being sold in many places.
The problem is that in Finland MS decided to actually increase RRP for Xbox One, it's 449 for the Kinectless version, and 549 for the Kinect version. Meanwhile in other countries Xbox One prices are going down which has lead into a situation where shops that offer import consoles are selling those import consoles cheaper than what the launch price for the console will be in September. And obviously if you buy import console, you get it now instead of September. It's not like Finland was Xbox country anyway, and a year long delay + high prices isn't going to help the situation at all.
Because at the reveal it was all xbone tv NFL. Outside the US no one cared, and as such no one in eu has bothered to look any deeper than that.
Its still US centric and even including surface and win 8 devices very few people outside the US is bothered about it.
$400m could have been better spent in my opinion.