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Munch Poke
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(08-09-2017, 07:18 PM)
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Wow is that really the last global mission? Glad I've got over 10,000 points saved and I've pretty much got all the breeding and such done. I'm not looking forward to having to get all the festival Plaza stuff again. It took way too long just to change the music, let alone those rare kitchens.

God I hope it's more streamlined in USUN. Like at least let me change the music without grinding to whatever level that was again.
BlazeBreak
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(08-09-2017, 07:25 PM)
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So after not touching the SuMo postgame at all, I've felt like playing some again... been messing around with a Doubles team... and really want to make Mega Ampharos work.

Trick Room seems like it may be the best option considering how slow it is and I'm gathering that Trick Room is somewhat prevelant atm?

I have a Poygon-2, but may try an Oranguru for Instruct to take advantage of Mega Ampharos's SpAtk (and with Telepathy I could run Discharge over Thunderbolt).

What should I run on Ampharos?
Thunderbolt/Discharge
Dragon Pulse
Is Cotton Guard worthwhile? Or most of the threats to it gonna be special attacks?
Volt Switch?

Ditch something for better coverage?


In terms of teammates... thinking Slowbro (Slack Off, Scald, Psyshock)... kind of want to use Vileplume too (am I better off with Toxic or Sleep Powder?)... not quite sure what to do for a physical attacker (Edit: Whoops, Aegislash is actually my leading contender. Could maybe try Marowak-A)
Dark Orchid
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(08-09-2017, 07:36 PM)

Originally Posted by Munch Poke

Wow is that really the last global mission? Glad I've got over 10,000 points saved and I've pretty much got all the breeding and such done. I'm not looking forward to having to get all the festival Plaza stuff again. It took way too long just to change the music, let alone those rare kitchens.

God I hope it's more streamlined in USUN. Like at least let me change the music without grinding to whatever level that was again.

I did all the missions but I can't even be bothered to allow it to level up fully seeing as it requires you to get at least one point to do so instead of just going through multiple level up sequences. There's not even a point for me to use Festval Plaza really, I do most of my breeding and leveling stuff in Gen 6 because it's easier and only go to 7 when I can't get whatever I need in 6.

Having Fire Punch/Lightningrod Marowak-A really trips some people up.
Munch Poke
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(08-09-2017, 09:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dark Orchid

I did all the missions but I can't even be bothered to allow it to level up fully seeing as it requires you to get at least one point to do so instead of just going through multiple level up sequences. There's not even a point for me to use Festval Plaza really, I do most of my breeding and leveling stuff in Gen 6 because it's easier and only go to 7 when I can't get whatever I need in 6.

Having Fire Punch/Lightningrod Marowak-A really trips some people up.

Yeah I recently did a replay through Omega Ruby just to get good natured legends so it's been neat having access to those move tutor moves again. Had I not dedicated so much effort into making Gen 7 my breeding and training game I'd probably do just like you and use Gen 6. I'm going to try to just use my current version for whatever I need even when USUN comes out.

I kinda went crazy this Gen and have gotten about 3 boxes full of pokemon to battle with. Hyper training has come in handy a few times but mostly it's just been good breeding that works best. Plus EV training has never been this streamlined, or easy if you use pelago.

And you're absolutely right, leveling up the Plaza was so tedious even with the missions giving me all those points. If that's unchanged in the new games I won't be using it for much. I lose too much time in these games as it is.
Gridlock
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(08-10-2017, 02:14 AM)
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Can I use Poké Bank with Soul Silver and Black or is it like Black 2?

I need a new Pokémon game to play. What do you recommend playable on the 3DS?

I'll check back on the thread once I drive to Gamestop.


Edit: did a quick Google search and got the Poké Bank answer. Which game are better Black white or Black 2 White 2?
BlazeBreak
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(08-10-2017, 02:20 AM)
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Black is like Black 2, where you can use Bank's PokeTransporter companion app to migrate Pokemon to Bank.

Transporter only works with the Gen 5 games, though. For Soul Silver you need two (3)DS's and progress far enough in a BW 1 or 2 save to unlock the (whatever the transporter lab machine was again lol) in order to send Pokemon to the Gen 5 game first.
Gridlock
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(08-10-2017, 02:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by BlazeBreak

Black is like Black 2, where you can use Bank's PokeTransporter companion app to migrate Pokemon to Bank.

Transporter only works with the Gen 5 games, though. For Soul Silver you need two (3)DS's and progress far enough in a BW 1 or 2 save to unlock the (whatever the transporter lab machine was again lol) in order to send Pokemon to the Gen 5 game first.


Thanks for the answer! Which versions are the better versions between Black 2 and Black or White and White 2?

Lol.. I got the itch to play a Pokémon game I haven't played before.
spiritfox
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(08-10-2017, 02:30 AM)

Originally Posted by Gridlock

Thanks for the answer! Which versions are the better versions between Black 2 and Black or White and White 2?

Lol.. I got the itch to play a Pokémon game I haven't played before.

BW has the better story but B2W2 has the world tournament. I think B2W2 is the better game overall but I have a soft spot for BW. Plus it's a direct sequel so it's better if you played BW first.
Gridlock
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(08-10-2017, 02:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by spiritfox

BW has the better story but B2W2 has the world tournament. I think B2W2 is the better game overall but I have a soft spot for BW. Plus it's a direct sequel so it's better if you played BW first.


Thanks for your recommendation!

Edit: The Gamestop had a version of Black 2 with its original case and instruction booklet and other meaningless material a new copy comes with. I jumped over that!
brinstar
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(08-10-2017, 04:09 AM)
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BW and BW2 are my favorite games in the series, enjoy!
GoldStarz
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(08-10-2017, 07:13 AM)
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Gen V really is the generation that keeps on giving imo. I just wish they didn't use up a physical space of the map for the Entree since it makes the region look more gaudy.
Not75Drops
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(08-10-2017, 08:08 AM)
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So Lycanroc Dusk is event-only for some reason. The Rockruff they're giving away in the distribution must have some sort of flag. But will it have just the regular fateful encounter flag or something else? Since the former would make Dusk permanently unavailable after the distribution period is over.

Makes me wonder if there's another event-exclusive form of a currently obtainable Pokemon that they're saving for next year's movie, since there's no new Pokemon left to be revealed.
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(08-10-2017, 09:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by Not75Drops

So Lycanroc Dusk is event-only for some reason. The Rockruff they're giving away in the distribution must have some sort of flag. But will it have just the regular fateful encounter flag or something else? Since the former would make Dusk permanently unavailable after the distribution period is over.

Makes me wonder if there's another event-exclusive form of a currently obtainable Pokemon that they're saving for next year's movie, since there's no new Pokemon left to be revealed.

Remember that Rotom's forms were event only at first, as was Mega Blaziken
Not75Drops
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(08-10-2017, 10:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by JoeM86

Remember that Rotom's forms were event only at first, as was Mega Blaziken

True, but locking off an evolution like that seems like a strange marketing decision. Especially in this case, where it will be owned by the main character in the anime, so it will be seen in a lot of episodes.

But yeah, they'll have to make it obtainable through regular means eventually for future generations.
brinstar
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(08-10-2017, 11:24 AM)
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my memory must be starting to go, because I don't remember the Rotom forms being event only at all lol

edit: oh wait they required a key right
JoeM86
(08-10-2017, 12:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by brinstar

my memory must be starting to go, because I don't remember the Rotom forms being event only at all lol

edit: oh wait they required a key right

Yep. You needed to have the Secret Key item only available through events in order to get them
Gridlock
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(08-10-2017, 01:21 PM)
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So there's a chance we will be able to breed our own Ash-Greninja with Ditto's in future games?




I started my Black 2 play through last night. Just to be clear, online and all Internet features are dead for the Pokémon DS games and just DS games period? I spent about 20 or so minutes trying to connect my 3DS online for DS titles last night and wasn't successful.
Mr-Joker
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(08-10-2017, 01:28 PM)

Originally Posted by Not75Drops

Makes me wonder if there's another event-exclusive form of a currently obtainable Pokemon that they're saving for next year's movie, since there's no new Pokemon left to be revealed.

Either a gen 4 Pokémon or a gen 8 Pokémon, my guess is Rotom getting a new form to use in battle.

Originally Posted by Not75Drops

True, but locking off an evolution like that seems like a strange marketing decision. Especially in this case, where it will be owned by the main character in the anime, so it will be seen in a lot of episodes.

But yeah, they'll have to make it obtainable through regular means eventually for future generations.

It's treated more as a Form than an evolution, so the player aren't locked out in obtaining Lyanroc, just Dusk form.

Furthermore they could take the QR Scanner route and thus the player is able to obtain the special Rockruff event long after gen 7 has ended, though at that point it will probably easily be obtainable in-game akin to how Rotom forms went from being exclusive to obtainable in-game.

Originally Posted by Gridlock

So there's a chance we will be able to breed our own Ash-Greninja with Ditto's in future games?

Doubtful as Battle Bond Greninja is treated as an unique Pokémon that is different from the others.

Originally Posted by Gridlock

I started my Black 2 play through last night. Just to be clear, online and all Internet features are dead for the Pokémon DS games and just DS games period? I spent about 20 or so minutes trying to connect my 3DS online for DS titles last night and wasn't successful.

Yes all on-line features for DS titles are dead.
Busaiku
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(08-10-2017, 02:29 PM)
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Marshadow and the Ash Hat Pikachu have yet to be released in the US, right?
Mr-Joker
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(08-10-2017, 02:33 PM)

Originally Posted by Busaiku

Marshadow and the Ash Hat Pikachu have yet to be released in the US, right?

So far they have only been released in Japan.

My guess is that they will release them closer to the release of the movie in the West.
Aleh
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(08-10-2017, 02:37 PM)
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Something fishy is going on with Mimikkyu in the anime. I'm almost inclining to say it will receive a new form too.
Not75Drops
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(08-10-2017, 05:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Aleh

Something fishy is going on with Mimikkyu in the anime. I'm almost inclining to say it will receive a new form too.

Bag Form confirmed

Mr-Joker
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(08-10-2017, 05:37 PM)

Originally Posted by Not75Drops

Bag Form confirmed

Metaroo
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(08-10-2017, 06:13 PM)
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Does anyone play Pokemon Duel?

Just downloaded the update and did 2 10 pulls using the discounted gems. Got trash. Might try and save up for a Suicune and make a freeze deck for fun, considering I have 2 Weavile and 4 Articunos.

Thoughts on the new content guys? I think there was an OT somewhere, but it got buried somewhere.
Dark Orchid
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(08-10-2017, 06:21 PM)

Originally Posted by Gridlock

I started my Black 2 play through last night. Just to be clear, online and all Internet features are dead for the Pokémon DS games and just DS games period? I spent about 20 or so minutes trying to connect my 3DS online for DS titles last night and wasn't successful.

I think someone was talking about setting up fake servers around the time the Gamespy deal died, but I have no idea if that ever got off the ground. It was a pretty small operation and not a lot of people were interested (primary reason being DNS spoofing on the GTS to get hacked Pokemon and/or distributions... which was soon outdated once 3DS homebrew exploded a few months later).

Might be worth looking around, though I've never been able to find any info on it since.
Professor Beef
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(08-10-2017, 07:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gridlock

Thanks for the answer! Which versions are the better versions between Black 2 and Black or White and White 2?

Lol.. I got the itch to play a Pokémon game I haven't played before.

BW1 are more "meaty" (no pun intended) and are longer games in general, while BW2 rush rush rushes you through the game at breakneck speed, but has a better postgame as the tradeoff.

And yes, all DS online features are dead. Your only option is to look for a spoof/custom server, but I have no experience with those so I can't speak of their reliability.
Gridlock
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(08-10-2017, 11:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mr-Joker

Either a gen 4 Pokémon or a gen 8 Pokémon, my guess is Rotom getting a new form to use in battle.



It's treated more as a Form than an evolution, so the player aren't locked out in obtaining Lyanroc, just Dusk form.

Furthermore they could take the QR Scanner route and thus the player is able to obtain the special Rockruff event long after gen 7 has ended, though at that point it will probably easily be obtainable in-game akin to how Rotom forms went from being exclusive to obtainable in-game.



Doubtful as Battle Bond Greninja is treated as an unique Pokémon that is different from the others.



Yes all on-line features for DS titles are dead.

Originally Posted by Dark Orchid

I think someone was talking about setting up fake servers around the time the Gamespy deal died, but I have no idea if that ever got off the ground. It was a pretty small operation and not a lot of people were interested (primary reason being DNS spoofing on the GTS to get hacked Pokemon and/or distributions... which was soon outdated once 3DS homebrew exploded a few months later).

Might be worth looking around, though I've never been able to find any info on it since.

Originally Posted by Professor Beef

BW1 are more "meaty" (no pun intended) and are longer games in general, while BW2 rush rush rushes you through the game at breakneck speed, but has a better postgame as the tradeoff.

And yes, all DS online features are dead. Your only option is to look for a spoof/custom server, but I have no experience with those so I can't speak of their reliability.


Thanks all for the replies. It's strange thst I've always loved this series but took a break from the series for 4 whole Gens. I wish I was involved when these games were active. I have only gotten to the third city and I love the art style/graphics and the characters seem better than what I expected.


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On another note


I down loaded the Pokémon Dream Radar because I read it connects to Black 2.

Man I did not know what I was getting into.

So I'm in my living room twisting, turning, and walking in circles trying to pop these clouds when my wife walks in on me.

She looks at me and ask what am I doing. I made the mistake of trying to explain it to her and her reaction was priceless. With the look of realization on her face she said "OMG... I had kids with you."

Hours later and I'm still chuckling about it.


So when do I start unlocking good Pokémon to catch in the Dream Radar app? Let me check Joe's site to see if he has info on it.
BlazeBreak
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(08-11-2017, 12:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gridlock

So when do I start unlocking good Pokémon to catch in the Dream Radar app? Let me check Joe's site to see if he has info on it.

Yeah, Serebii will have that covered. There are a good handful of legendaries you can get via Dream Radar if I recall. You'll have access to a ton between that and Black 2 itself.
papertoonz
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(08-11-2017, 01:51 AM)
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Originally Posted by Aleh

Something fishy is going on with Mimikkyu in the anime. I'm almost inclining to say it will receive a new form too.

i have seen a image floating around of what looks to be a magazine scan of Mimikkyu but not really covered

don't know if it real or not

edit: it was fake
Munch Poke
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(08-11-2017, 02:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gridlock



So I'm in my living room twisting, turning, and walking in circles trying to pop these clouds when my wife walks in on me.

She looks at me and ask what am I doing. I made the mistake of trying to explain it to her and her reaction was priceless. With the look of realization on her face she said "OMG... I had kids with you."

Hours later and I'm still chuckling about it.

I've got a variety of video game tattoos at this point and finally decided to add a Raichu onto the underarm of my sleeve. Showed my childs mother today and she gave me a very similar look.

It's not like the other tattoos weren't there ahead of time! She knew who she was messing with!
Dark Orchid
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(08-11-2017, 02:57 AM)
Was reading Game Informer's daily Pokemon story today about how they design Pokemon and was reminded of something. Masuda's "three headed cat" drawing looks an awful lot like a B/W menu test that was left in the files:

Wonder if he's the one who drew it?

Not really an important discovery, just something funny.
Gridlock
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(08-11-2017, 01:03 PM)
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When gen 8 comes around I hope Game Freak introduces a way to change a Pokémon nature. I just got a level 10 Tornadus with its hidden ability from the Pokémon Dream Radar and it's nature is all messed up. It has a Docile nature. I don't care about the IV'S because I can always raise it and bring it to Gen 7 to Hyper Train it.


I get salty everytime I get a Pokémon with the wrong nature. >.> I hate this pet peeve.
Aleh
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(08-11-2017, 03:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Not75Drops

Bag Form confirmed

Run Nebby, run
pluginbaby121
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(08-12-2017, 03:36 AM)
Just had a war of goddamn attrition with Cynthia at the end of platinum. I was way under leveled for her and fought her for a good 40 minutes healing and reviving. I started with 30 revives, hyper potions and full restores and am in the single digits. I basically ran down her PP so all her strong stuff had to use their weak moves
Professor Beef
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(08-12-2017, 03:56 AM)
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It took until my first fight against Skarmory in my replay of ORAS for me to realize that I had been using all physical attackers and no Electric types. ( ._.)
GoldStarz
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(08-12-2017, 04:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by pluginbaby121

Just had a war of goddamn attrition with Cynthia at the end of platinum. I was way under leveled for her and fought her for a good 40 minutes healing and reviving. I started with 30 revives, hyper potions and full restores and am in the single digits. I basically ran down her PP so all her strong stuff had to use their weak moves

A battle against Cynthia is definitely probably the pinnacle of difficulty a person is going to find in Pokemon outside of a Battle Facility read: the most difficult battle you'll find where the AI plays fair
pluginbaby121
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(08-12-2017, 04:16 AM)
I'm gonna play Soul Silver next. I don't remember it being super hard but I don't remember. I feel like Platinum was up there
BlazeBreak
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(08-12-2017, 05:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by pluginbaby121

I'm gonna play Soul Silver next. I don't remember it being super hard but I don't remember. I feel like Platinum was up there

SoulSilver if I remember can get a bit difficult in its second half - you can easily enough wind up underleveled when you reach the E4, and then depending on how you tackle it, remain that way through Kanto all the way up to Red.
pluginbaby121
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(08-12-2017, 06:29 PM)

Originally Posted by BlazeBreak

SoulSilver if I remember can get a bit difficult in its second half - you can easily enough wind up underleveled when you reach the E4, and then depending on how you tackle it, remain that way through Kanto all the way up to Red.

I'm pretty sure I've beaten it but I honestly don't remember. If I did I didn't do the Kanto part. I was going to choose Totodile but I might just go Cyndaquil. If it's like platinum, ORAS, or SM I'm worried about lack of fire types. I can get Red Gyarados or Lapras at least.
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(08-12-2017, 06:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by Not75Drops

Bag Form confirmed

I would always use that forme.
Professor Beef
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(08-12-2017, 09:44 PM)
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quick dumb question

if have pokerus cured, then remove all my EVs, will they still be doubled if i earn them again?
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(08-12-2017, 09:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Professor Beef

quick dumb question

if have pokerus cured, then remove all my EVs, will they still be doubled if i earn them again?

You don't cure pokerus, it just stops being infectious. The effects are still there, so yes.
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(08-12-2017, 10:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by WPS

You don't cure pokerus, it just stops being infectious. The effects are still there, so yes.

you know what i meant :P

and thanks!
Gridlock
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(08-12-2017, 10:52 PM)
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>:(

>:(

;_;

So late last week I bought a used version of Black 2. I downloaded Pokémon Dream Radar to get the hidden abilities legendaries and I was into it!

I go to log in a hour ago and the card was currupted. My save file.

My Servine with a Timid nature that I got on the first go

My Jolly Riolu that I caught on my first try

But what broke me was my level 10 Tornadus Therein with its hidden ability that I nicked named Turkey!!! I grew attached to Turkey!!! I was developing a back story that explain how I caught him weakened at level 10 and our journey to restore him to his full power!!! He's gone... I feel so defeated..

I returned it.... I'll never get Turkey back.
Dark Orchid
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(08-12-2017, 11:15 PM)

Originally Posted by Gridlock

>:(

>:(

;_;

So late last week I bought a used version of Black 2. I downloaded Pokémon Dream Radar to get the hidden abilities legendaries and I was into it!

I go to log in a hour ago and the card was currupted. My save file.

My Servine with a Timid nature that I got on the first go

My Jolly Riolu that I caught on my first try

But what broke me was my level 10 Tornadus Therein with its hidden ability that I nicked named Turkey!!! I grew attached to Turkey!!! I was developing a back story that explain how I caught him weakened at level 10 and our journey to restore him to his full power!!! He's gone... I feel so defeated..

I returned it.... I'll never get Turkey back.

Did you try blowing on it and reinserting it a few times? My White would always say the save was corrupted when I would put it back in but it's still going to this day.
Professor Beef
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(08-12-2017, 11:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dark Orchid

Did you try blowing on it and reinserting it a few times? My White would always say the save was corrupted when I would put it back in but it's still going to this day.

that actually doesn't work and is proven to make things worse down the line
Dark Orchid
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(08-13-2017, 05:46 AM)

Originally Posted by Professor Beef

that actually doesn't work and is proven to make things worse down the line

Could also try dusting it off, then. Point is there's something about those carts that likes to throw out the "Save file is corrupted" message despite it not actually being gone.
Professor Beef
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(08-13-2017, 06:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dark Orchid

Could also try dusting it off, then. Point is there's something about those carts that likes to throw out the "Save file is corrupted" message despite it not actually being gone.

That sounds pretty rare actually
Gridlock
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(08-13-2017, 06:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dark Orchid

Did you try blowing on it and reinserting it a few times? My White would always say the save was corrupted when I would put it back in but it's still going to this day.

Originally Posted by Dark Orchid

Could also try dusting it off, then. Point is there's something about those carts that likes to throw out the "Save file is corrupted" message despite it not actually being gone.


Yeah I tried. I've been gaming since the NES era and my first instinct was to blow into the cartridge port and on the cartridge. The inside of my 3DS was spotless as expected. I have a few DS games and I checked them and those worked perfectly. I gave up and returned Black 2. I was trying for a good bit because I wanted to atleast get Turkey (Tornadus) into Poké Bank but I couldn't. Turkey was going to be the first legendary I used in a competitive team too! I feel bummed about it.



Thanks for the advice
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(08-13-2017, 06:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by pluginbaby121

I'm pretty sure I've beaten it but I honestly don't remember. If I did I didn't do the Kanto part. I was going to choose Totodile but I might just go Cyndaquil. If it's like platinum, ORAS, or SM I'm worried about lack of fire types. I can get Red Gyarados or Lapras at least.

You can catch Vulpix (Growlithe in HG) pretty early on... and Magmar not too long after. Trying to recall if there are any other fire Pokemon pre-E4. I know Houndour's not until Kanto.

...But Vulpix/Growlithe and Magmar makes HGSS pretty abundant with fire-types compared to most games.

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