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NBA 2K18 (Switch cartridge) requires 16GB download for all features
- Thread starter ggx2ac
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Good point
metsallica
Member
Sorry if this has been addressed, but do we know how big the save files are on other platforms? I mean, I know you can do a lot of customizing here, but that has to be some sort of giant swap file, no? Can't just be stats and junk. Save file seems like the wrong term, even if it does house the user's saved data.
dragonyeuw
Member
Nintendo had made several devices the last 15 years that you can corrupt data on. The Gamecube? Wii? Wii U? DS/3DS? And now the Switch, all have some form of storage that can be corrupted if the user takes the card out during the process. Guess what happens if I'm transferring a game from internal memory to my micro SD, and I decide for some flippant reason to remove the card during the process? Whoops. Hell, data can become corrupted during transfer without moving the storage. This is electronics, shit happens from time to time.
DeuceGamer
Member
I'm not sure what to think of this but I'm honestly pretty frustrated. I feel like 2K should definitely be using larger game cards. Even if they didn't want to use the 32 GB card they could have went for a 16 GB card and made the required download a lot smaller. Think I'm just gonna skip NBA 2K this year.
fabricated backlash
Member
5 GB save file... Get the fuck out of here.
bemusedchunk
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Leona Lewis
Banned
Glad we agree on that.
AllBusinessJr
Member
Thanks for adding so much to the discussion. Had you read my post, you'd see that I own a Switch. Am I trolling myself? Relax.
Have we established the save file size on other platforms? The problem with that comparison is that other platforms have a multitude of storage options, and generally speaking, 5 gb isn't that much in the grand scheme of things when you're dealing with 500 gb or 1 tb. I didn't tell Nintendo to put such little storage into the hardware, so don't call me a troll for pointing out their problem.
bemusedchunk
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KennyLinder
Member
Zelda is on a 16gb card.
because outside the arena is a big open world you just have to play a lot of matches to unlock it
stump sock
Member
the zelda universe is actually massively smaller than our universe. the entire landmass of BOTW only takes up about half a basketball court
Heavy_D206
Member
I just downloaded a 25GB update for ESO on my PS4 yesterday, so 16GB doesn't seem that bad to me.
Leona Lewis
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Zelda's geometry/textures/etc. are not very complex. Open world does not automatically equate to massive file size when there are so many recycled, low-quality, last-gen assets.
Maintenance
Member
Save file size is the same on all consoles
Lol have none of you guys played sports games on other consoles? NBA 2K save files have always been large like that
Crazyorloco
Member
5GB save per account on switch, but each account has like 10 files within it. So I can have 10 myplayers files.
2K games have been large on all consoles. I don't mind it for the presentation experience and graphics in this game.
2K games have been large on all consoles. I don't mind it for the presentation experience and graphics in this game.
Jaded Alyx
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Maintenance
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So you want them to make a crap game just so we can have low space? they made a great looking feature complete NBA 2K game for Switch, that games with high space requirements
Pokemaniac
Member
Actually the Switch support microSD cards up to 2TB. Currently the max size card on the market is 400GB, though.
Astral Dog
Member
Im not going to buy it
bemusedchunk
Banned
Flash storage is also cheaper than a platter drive.
And i'd really like to see a device that is the size of the switch that uses a platter drive.
Maintenance
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Undead Fantasy
Member
They can pretty much go fuck themselves with this.
This needs to flop hard.
This needs to flop hard.
xochipiltontli
Member
Wait so the game isn't even on a 16GB card? Ridiculous, both the saved storage benefit (at least for cartridges) and convenience of beIng able to just buy a game and play it right away is lost here, and I say that as someone who's all digital but understands why some people like physical copies.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Why 5 GB a save file?
Pupperbabysassy
Member
When I bought the disc, I had to delete the previous years game and other games I stored on my hard drive just to play it.
dragonyeuw
Member
Yep, they've all but killed any point in buying the physical version of this game, and being a sports game to boot? Yeah, no.
giancarlo123x
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I'm sure you'll have the same exact problem 3+ years into the switches Lifespan.
I think a better solution would be to make an updated version of their 3ds backup application. The 3ds let you connect remotely to a pc to create file backups. This would be perfect for a device like the Switch. No fear of unhooking the system from the drive, no reliance on internet connections or servers to access your files, and they've already shown they can implement it.
Wowfunhappy
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This practice needs to be outlawed by Nintendo. What freaking BS.
If you have a big game distribute it on a bigger cartridge. Or make a couple of less-used, optional modes require a download.
Honestly at this point, why even bother with a cartridge at all? Just sell a download code, lol.
If you have a big game distribute it on a bigger cartridge. Or make a couple of less-used, optional modes require a download.
Honestly at this point, why even bother with a cartridge at all? Just sell a download code, lol.
Jaded Alyx
Member
Not really surprising
Yeah sports games have had super large save files for a while now. Madden took a whole Memory Card 59 on GameCube.
No real way to get around it due to the insane amount of data they have to track.
dragonyeuw
Member
And the developers will respond by not putting their games on the system, or making them download only which still puts the onus on the end user to fork over for more storage. This was one of the effects of going with flash storage coupled with low stock internal memory. We can only hope that 64gb cards become cheap enough soon and that microSD cards continue to drop price/increase over time. Sandisk already has a 400gb card but I personally couldn't bring myself to pay $250 on storage for a $300 system. 200gb cards though, are $70-80 bucks and 256gb ones as low as $130( on amazon). Hopefully black friday we'll see $30 bucks or more slashed off the going prices in those sizes.
Nintendo really needs to add support for save files on SD cards stat.
A couple more games like this and there will be no more room for saves and we'll all stop buying games because we don't want to delete our save files.
I know they're worried about people exploiting saves to hack the system, but this is going to be a real problem pretty soon.
A couple more games like this and there will be no more room for saves and we'll all stop buying games because we don't want to delete our save files.
I know they're worried about people exploiting saves to hack the system, but this is going to be a real problem pretty soon.
Scrotum Phillips
Member
I mean this in the nicest way as I enjoy my Switch a lot - but what exactly were people expecting here? Last years game was 50 gb+ if I remember it right, along with having a stupid big save file requirement (obviously less of a deal if you have at least 500 GB HD). This game is also feature identical with the other versions of the game. It just kind of is what it is, as this game is routinely one of the best selling games of the year. Releasing a "neutered" version on the Switch would also face significant backlash.
I...just really don't understand what Nintendo was doing releasing a 32GB system in 2017. It's a bummer, but this probably isn't going to be the exception going forward if 3rd party games continue to release on the Switch.
I...just really don't understand what Nintendo was doing releasing a 32GB system in 2017. It's a bummer, but this probably isn't going to be the exception going forward if 3rd party games continue to release on the Switch.
5GB is bigger than most games on Switch, let alone saves.
UnemployedVillain
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lol
Horsemama1956
Member
They expect people to buy SDcards. If they knew they couldn't get away with it they would have increased storage space. They can get away with it because of the mobile nature of the "console".
The console is selling and they get higher profits.
Wowfunhappy
Member
I would argue that some games becoming download-only would be a superior outcome. At least it's transparent. What NBA is doing is confusing and basically defeats the purpose of having a physical copy to begin with.