Well that's if the current pace is kept. I do expect sales to slow down near summer and I'm hoping Sony has a killer E3 to keep the pace up until Fall for the holiday season. This holiday season is going to be one for the ages.
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PlayStation 4 Sales Surpass 7.0 Million Units (April 6th), 20.5M Software (April 13)
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Well that's if the current pace is kept. I do expect sales to slow down near summer and I'm hoping Sony has a killer E3 to keep the pace up until Fall for the holiday season. This holiday season is going to be one for the ages.
The PS4 situation in many parts of Europe are still barren. They could always ship more to those regions to continue with their fast pace.
James Sawyer Ford
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PS4 will probably slow down to around 750K / month through August, then at least 1 million per month in Sept and October, then (if supply permits), around 2 million in November and December.
That's roughly 17 million by year's end.
That's roughly 17 million by year's end.
What's funny about this, is that Microsoft were never even the market leader last gen, Nintendo was. They've never even won a single generation, they were always distant second.
At least both Nintendo & Sony reasons of being arrogant were valid, considering that they each won two generations in a row with NES, SNES, PS1, & PS2.
ehh....I love those days as much as the next guy, but somebody has to keep sony honest. Nintendo sure as shit won't.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
I'm seeing a lot of PS4 stock in South Africa too (our release was 13th December btw). Most gaming/entertainment stores seem to have a couple each, but it's so damn expensive because of the current exchange rate that it's not surprising there's so much stock just sitting there.
Captain Tuttle
Member
You want to rely on the Japanese gaming industry to put out the kind of content they put out for PS2?
Those days are over son
Savantcore
Unconfirmed Member
I'm sure any PS2-levels of success for the PS4 would only reaffirm their new consumer/developer-friendly attitudes. The sting of the PS3 will stay in their minds forever.
Sales will slow down but 10 million by the end of September seems easily possible and I'm expecting big holiday sales if that Destiny bundle happens. I wouldn't underestimate the impact of next gen exclusive Assassin's Creed and Batman either.
A couple at most stores is not really a lot of stock.
Appollowexx
Member
Yeah I think 15 mil is about right, maybe slightly less but around there.
If they managed to hit 17 that would be phenomenal. Pipe dreams really but it would be great to know Sony's gaming division is back on track (money wise) and the console business is booming.
you're probably right
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
17 would be feasible if they fix the supply allotment issues and get a stronger lineup for Fall.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
Lol that's what you call a rise? Maybe the rise in his blood pressure allowed him to repost the picture, but I haven't seen anyone mad or on the verge of diabetes. Disappointed, yes.
Teletraan1
Banned
I wouldn't mind a generation of PS2 level domination. MS selling at par with Sony just for competition's sake won't keep anyone honest. It will just show MS that they can release sub par non focused tech at a high price with a handful of internal studios and get away with it. The lesson should be learned going into next generation on the hardware front and I feel like if MS are going to continue to be a platform holder should start cultivating more internal studios during this generation. This moneyhat bullshit is not sustainable.
AKA North American myopia.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Sting of PS3?
PS3 was far more consumer friendly than its competitors. More games, more sales, PS+, free online. And its success caught up with 360's sales.
Do you understand how many devs would drop out completely out of the industry or go mobile if they followed your advice? Higher dev costs mean you have to sell more than ever and only way to do that is dev and publish on PS4+X1+PC.
Saw one in Saturn Heidelberg today, KZ bundle., 549.
Also, 16 Bones stacked next to it.
Do they really have a single PS4 or do they always fetch the next one from the storage room when they sell one?
That'll be Microsoft next-gen.
I don't think that we'll even see a 4th Xbox console next gen. Microsoft's investors aren't going to allow them to continue to pour money into the brand when it's not making them back a big return in profit.
Refer to my post here about that.
Omnistalgic
Member
As much as I like a ps2 level gen of dominance again it's likely not going to happen unless Japan truly embraces the ps4 with there biggest games again. Resident evil, ff, dragon quest, MSG, DMC, tales games, persona, they all need to come back in a big way...I know there been some expressed interest from a few Japanese devs in interviews but, console gaming can't be as big without a larger worldwide contribution....
gundamkyoukai
Member
That really depends on sales if we had another gen where a console sold like PS2 +PC devs would be alright .
Truth is IMO the industry would be better off with one console plus PC the only problem is the one maker might cheap out on hardware or risk some sort of bullshit .
Spring-Loaded
Member
...for real?
brownfedora
Member
OK so let's go a different direction.
I want PS2-level domination so that western devs can focus on delivering content on two platforms - PS4 and PC.
The best thing that can happen is for Xbone to trail off as quickly as possible so we get games optimized for PS4. I hope xbone struggles to cross 10M this year. That would pretty much be a death knell.
Syphon Filter
Member
why would any dev limit their fanbase even if one dominates?
Because Ports cost money to make. If at some point the people buying your game on X system aren't making any money, or enough money to make it worthwhile, you're better off not bothering. It's why people aren't chomping at the bit to make WiiU games.
Sony just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about console dominance (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in North Korea where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you sell more consoles than the competition, you bring pissed off companies to yourself, and the only way to get rid of them is money hatting.
What this means is the general public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase the other systems, nor will they purchase any Microsoft or Nintendo stocks. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Sony has alienated the global market with this success.
Sony, publicly apologize and embrace Microsoft's DRM future or the competition will start buying nukes with your name on them.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about console dominance (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in North Korea where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you sell more consoles than the competition, you bring pissed off companies to yourself, and the only way to get rid of them is money hatting.
What this means is the general public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase the other systems, nor will they purchase any Microsoft or Nintendo stocks. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Sony has alienated the global market with this success.
Sony, publicly apologize and embrace Microsoft's DRM future or the competition will start buying nukes with your name on them.
Dredd97
Member
Even for a joke post, that's way out there.
I think people are so caught up in those silly quotes that they can't really sit down and think about what was "bad" about the PS3 for consumers. Sorry to quote you again BigDug, but it does a great job explaining how much value the PS3 had. It was actually pro-consumer and ambitious IMO. However, gamers wanted a primary gaming device at a lower price-point (obviously).
StreetDisciple
Member
How far ahead was 360 when PS3 launched in NA
Only reason I can think of is that it may not be profitable to develop on a console if the install base is too small, or there isn't an audience for that particular type of genre. It's similar to why NIS America (Disgaea series) is PS3 exclusive. The market for JRPGs on Xbox isn't large enough to justify porting a game over there.
4/10.
While it's funny, it's not very believable. Only the most radical of people would want Xbox to bring back DRM.
shadowsdarknes
Member
The DRM thing was a joke.
Syphon Filter
Member
MS quarter numbers is next week right? So we will know the real sold consoles right?
Its not supposed to be believable its a joke post. You guys are no fun lol.
I didn't really mean it as consumers would want DRM. I was thinking more of microsoft is pissed that they are losing and wants to force it on sony.
Truth is you are wrong as fuck. First, we will never have generation big as PS2 generation was. There's PC, mobile and tablets competing for people's free time.
Second, Nintendo and MS are much stronger imo on their own than in PS2 gen, especially MS who goes after same crowd that Sony does. That means more variety for the sales too.
Third, higher dev costs mean that 3rd party exclusives are pretty much dead unless strongly moneyhatted. This means there will be no "go to-console" like PS2 was, probably ever again.
PS2+PC kind of sales wouldn't be enough today to support game industry. Actually, it would be a disaster. For comparison, last gen there was X360+PS3+PC who each had strong sales and good software sales and even that wasn't enough to keep studios or some publishers afloat.
Since PS2 days, dev costs today are about ten times as high. So do you think you can up your game sales ten times larger? Give me a list of over 10 million selling PS3 games for comparison.
Also, single console industry sounds like fucking disaster in the making. Competition is what drives this industry forward, and competition is good for the consumer.
SwiftDeath
Member
Maybe but doubtful in my opinion. You usually tell investors how many consoles you've sold to retailers, not to consumers
What a damn good console. Got mine April 11th and purchased ISS and Tomb Raider today about 5 hours ago.. ISS is jaw dropping at times. Runs pretty smooth so far. Also, based on the current op system, you can imagine and see what features Sony will add down the line. The two places I went today in RI, Best Buy and Gamestop had PS4 in stock. BB had the camera and the Gamestop had used PS4s for sale, for about, $371.00.
They both got small shipments yesterday, I was told. Not that I didn't believe the over all quality of the system but I can certainly see with my own eyes , why Sony is selling a fuckton of systems. My mother wants to check look at my PS4 since I tell her how it is. I've been playing a ton of DC Universe since I got it. What a huge difference as far fps. Most of the time, smooth as butter, even with alot on screen. Granted, it can slow when 8 ppl spam powers at times but so much better.
They both got small shipments yesterday, I was told. Not that I didn't believe the over all quality of the system but I can certainly see with my own eyes , why Sony is selling a fuckton of systems. My mother wants to check look at my PS4 since I tell her how it is. I've been playing a ton of DC Universe since I got it. What a huge difference as far fps. Most of the time, smooth as butter, even with alot on screen. Granted, it can slow when 8 ppl spam powers at times but so much better.
I can guarantee a ton of people won't have any clue what this is a reference to.
Which reminds me...why isn't there a "Welcome to GAF sticky" with all these inside jokes?
SwiftDeath
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Because only those souls that can brave the hellfires of GAF's world may join us
or mods don't like giving weight to memes as such
Liabe Brave
Member
I believe about 6m, with 3m of that in the U.S. Over time, Microsoft extended their U.S. lead to about 15m. Sony's catch-up was split about evenly, exceeding the 360 by about 7.5m in Japan and 7.5m in the rest of the world.
brownfedora
Member
Do you understand that it's a simple numbers game? If the xbone installed base isn't big enough, devs won't be able to recoup the cost to port their games.
I hope this happens. If you agree that the console market is shrinking, you really want one dominant platform that allows developers to maximize their returns. The console market has to become more efficient in order for devs to continue to invest in AAA games. Reducing the number of consoles is an easy way to make this happen. Microsoft should double-down on PC gaming and release a streamlined gaming OS based on DirectX.
Pankratous
Member
I actually did.
Exactly my reasoning too. I enjoy exclusives for both sides, but I simply trust Sony more to continue to support their system more fully for longer. And for MS to rebuild that trust can take years. (Or just make PGR5)
LiquidSolid
Member
Pretty sure it was closer to 8 million. That was also around about the time when Microsoft deliberately stuffed the retail channels with a shitload of units so that they could claim that they sold (shipped) 10 million units in their first year, which meant they won the console wars (based on the idea that the PS2 hit 10 million in its first year and won). Then the Wii thrashed them.
Dragonborn
Member
Why? What's the difference between one console selling 100 million versus 2 consoles selling 50 each?