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Brexit | OT3 | A Feast for Crows
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https://twitter.com/technicallyron/status/911222159820943360
At least she is being honest #florencespeech
I thought about making a new thread for this but it's probably best off as a quickie here: The Remainiacs podcast has just started a Patreon.
This week they had Gina Miller on. FootyGAF, Philippe Auclair was on last month in what was probably my favourite episode so far.
I am subscribed to a lot of podcasts but this one always get priority. Give it a go!
This week they had Gina Miller on. FootyGAF, Philippe Auclair was on last month in what was probably my favourite episode so far.
I am subscribed to a lot of podcasts but this one always get priority. Give it a go!
Come friendly bombs and fall on Slough
PJV3
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Redwood actually had the nerve to say that the EU didn't have a plan? He's crashing the car and complaining the passengers don't have ejector seats.
RedSparrows
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Redwood and Mogg need to get in the sea. And Farage. And May.
Please no. There's a non-zero chance they'd wash up on European shores.
Also, you forgot BoJo.
-Plasma Reus-
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Bojo horseshit.
You forget Corbyn doesn't like the EU either and politicians are still afraid of losing their seats in leave areas so Labour is likely to be just as stupid as the Tories. It's will of the people, ugh.
RedSparrows
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Add BoJo. They'd be neutered abroad:they wouldn't be able to rely on foggy notions of English liberties and patriotic inanities.
But to be safe, chuck them off St Agnes.
UK downgraded by Moodys amid Brexit pressures
https://www.ft.com/content/c464354c-105e-3f91-afda-fc32a28e96e9
https://www.ft.com/content/c464354c-105e-3f91-afda-fc32a28e96e9
Woah.
Huw_Dawson
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Yes.
None of the news channels managed to sum it up as succinctly and accurately as you, good job!
Winning.Can also link directly to Moody's.
https://www.moodys.com/research/Moo...g-to-Aa2-changes-outlook-to-stable--PR_372649
Well, at least the outlook has been upgraded to stable, so no further slippage is expected anytime soon. Coincidentally, when's Mays next speech?
Also, obligatory "I know some of these words"...
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
Regarding Northern Ireland, he isn't proposing a real solution either.
It's nice to want things, but having Northern Ireland in a completely different economy from the rest of the UK, likely with WTO tariffs between it and the rest of the country as well, well that is simply not going to happen either.
The DUP would definitely prefer the entire UK in the EEA and Customs Union to a very hard border in the Irish Sea, though they're currently living in a Brexit fantasy. Most of Northern Ireland's population wants to remain in the UK, but remaining part of it in name only and thus being tied in almost every way to the laws of the Republic and the European Union instead...that's the most obvious red line in politics that exists.
DarthMasta
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What's a real solution? Because most "solutions" for Northern Ireland appear to be of the possibly "troubling" kind, all but the "<insert magic here>" ones.
There will be a solution, but chances are someone is going to mightily dislike it, and let's just hope it's not enough to do something stupid about it. For the moment it's a game of "You be the bad guy, no you be the bad guy"...
SporeCrawler
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how dare moodys impede the solemn sovereignity of the great british empire?
Linkstrikesback
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Already up to 40bn today
Gonna be 100bn by wednesday
My god, she aged terribly in that photograph since yesterday.
Ah, the old Brexiteer approach of "*I* am LEAVING, what will *you* do to accommodate my leave?"
The EU has made it clear on several occasions that it's the UK who decided to leave the EU, so the onus is on them to suggest a solution that works and respects what the EU wants, which is to protect Ireland and the Good Friday Agreement.
If Theresa May didn't have a clear idea on how to leave the EU without fucking Northern Ireland up, why did she invoke Article 50 so quickly? She's an utterly irresponsible cunt and the EU has no fault at all in this mess.
And actually, if you read between the lines of his reply, you can see he is suggesting a solution: he says the EU wants no border at all between Ireland and Northern Ireland, which means NOT LEAVING THE FRIGGING SINGLE MARKET.
Ah, the old Brexiteer approach of "*I* am LEAVING, what will *you* do to accommodate my leave?"
The EU has made it clear on several occasions that it's the UK who decided to leave the EU, so the onus is on them to suggest a solution that works and respects what the EU wants, which is to protect Ireland and the Good Friday Agreement.
If Theresa May didn't have a clear idea on how to leave the EU without fucking Northern Ireland up, why did she invoke Article 50 so quickly? She's an utterly irresponsible cunt and the EU has no fault at all in this mess.
And actually, if you read between the lines of his reply, you can see he is suggesting a solution: he says the EU wants no border at all between Ireland and Northern Ireland, which means NOT LEAVING THE FRIGGING SINGLE MARKET.
Yeah, exactly. Ultimately, when you boil it down, there are only two ways to approach NI:
1. Hard border
2. No hard border (i.e. NI remaining in customs union/single market), meaning either the whole of the UK does the same or we have to have a hard border between NI and the rest of the UK.
Any solution is going to have to be a variant on one of those two themes, but the government steadfastly refuse to accept it because they don't like those options.
This Süddeutsche Zeitung piece is great:
"Her tone is soft just like her statement: We are partners, we share the same values, London has an interest in a strong EU. We'll stay friends and solve Brexit as friends.
Almost it seems as she said "please". 35 minutes the PM speaks about GB future in europe, answers a few questions very vague then she's gone. Almost as silent and without gestures as she came"
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/grossbritannien-briten-wollen-freunde-bleiben-1.3679177
Incase you were wondering how european press reacts to her speech.
"Her tone is soft just like her statement: We are partners, we share the same values, London has an interest in a strong EU. We'll stay friends and solve Brexit as friends.
Almost it seems as she said "please". 35 minutes the PM speaks about GB future in europe, answers a few questions very vague then she's gone. Almost as silent and without gestures as she came"
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/grossbritannien-briten-wollen-freunde-bleiben-1.3679177
Incase you were wondering how european press reacts to her speech.
PJV3
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Ah, the old Brexiteer approach of "*I* am LEAVING, what will *you* do to accommodate my leave?"
The EU has made it clear on several occasions that it's the UK who decided to leave the EU, so the onus is on them to suggest a solution that works and respects what the EU wants, which is to protect Ireland and the Good Friday Agreement.
If Theresa May didn't have a clear idea on how to leave the EU without fucking Northern Ireland up, why did she invoke Article 50 so quickly? She's an utterly irresponsible cunt and the EU has no fault at all in this mess.
And actually, if you read between the lines of his reply, you can see he is suggesting a solution: he says the EU wants no border at all between Ireland and Northern Ireland, which means NOT LEAVING THE FRIGGING SINGLE MARKET.
The hard Brexiteers are just laying the foundations for needing to rejoin, they should take the longer path but they fear we will never leave.
Psychotext
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Fucking lol.
What world are we living in? I feel like I should be seeing glitches.
What world are we living in? I feel like I should be seeing glitches.
Stilton Disco
Member
Huge hurricanes, deadly earthquakes, massive solar flares, President Trump...
Honestly at this point I'm convinced this universe really is just a simulation, and we're either seeing reality glitching the fuck out, or we're experiencing the same thing as the characters in the Sims do when someone plays while bored and drunk with a save file they don't care about.
Freeza Under The Shower
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This is just me, but: I kind of imagine May as someone who walked into a blue police telephone box in the 1950's, then immediately turned around and exited in 2016, completely oblivious as to what happened. Meanwhile a very confused Doctor is wondering how someone doesn't notice that.
A strong and stable downward trajectory.
My personal working theory is that British politicians are collectively suffering from a new strain of Rabies or BSE. Or maybe lead poisoning. Fluoridation? Alien parasites! There's gotta be something. We're just not looking hard enough.
I say, let's start a monthly lottery over the rights to extract blood from UK politicians as prizes, and then run some tests on the extracted samples. All of the tests, to be honest. But only one per sample. No matter how many samples of blood(etc) we need. "Jab the prime minister with a needle" could become a really popular ambition in life (and not one that gets you locked away in jail for a few decades.)
I bet this would even turn a profit. Which we could turn into research grants. To invent more tests. Err, I mean, discover new, hitherto unknown ailments.
I say, let's start a monthly lottery over the rights to extract blood from UK politicians as prizes, and then run some tests on the extracted samples. All of the tests, to be honest. But only one per sample. No matter how many samples of blood(etc) we need. "Jab the prime minister with a needle" could become a really popular ambition in life (and not one that gets you locked away in jail for a few decades.)
I bet this would even turn a profit. Which we could turn into research grants. To invent more tests. Err, I mean, discover new, hitherto unknown ailments.
I'm still of the hope and belief that Brexit won't actually happen. As an EU (and Commonwealth citizen) in London, I'm noticing more and more people from all sides starting to come to terms with how fucked up this all is and whether we should just sweep it under the carpet.
You've just reminded me, I should watch The Matrix again tonight after dinner. It's been a while.
You've just reminded me, I should watch The Matrix again tonight after dinner. It's been a while.
PJV3
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It sounds like one of fucking dreadful keep calm and carry on statements, the country took a turn for the worse when they became popular.
Psychotext
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London always knew how fucked up this was. Try talking to your average swivel eyed loon in the rest of the country.
(You know, the ones who've only ever met a handful of immigrants)
He is a fucking cunt and if I ever saw him in the street I would nut the cunt.
I was in London this weekend and watching labor, the tories and Peggy argue their cases was absolutely surreal and everyone is still scared to point out that the Leave voters were informationally unqualified to vote. They genuinely demonstrably voted for a fantasy.
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Oh for sure. I meant more from around the country as I work with people from all over, so we often have these conversations about their thoughts but also the people they meet in their local areas.
Royal_Phalanx
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We need to reload the 2015 election savegame and go the Miliband route instead. Country wouldn't be in a such a bad situation right now.
Save is corrupt and the corrupt save was uploaded to the cloud too.
Oh, please - did you see him eat that bacon roll? Someone like that couldn't be trusted with getting on with the job of getting the best deal for the British people as we enter this imaginative, creative and prosperous new era.
JonnyDBrit
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It's ok, the Tories claim to have hacked the system and are just about done with reverse engineering the locked save file format. Trust them. They know what they're doing.
RedSparrows
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This way we get achievements.