MisterHero
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It begins? Sony patents that break-apart controller
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Rapping Granny
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lol this won't move consoles.
Count Dookkake
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Rapping Granny said:
But it will move LOLs and that is what this generation needs the most.
Count Dookkake
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raYne said:
The gift of :lol.
Forsete
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Threi said:Why not quit early then?
Get a headstart on your new hobby
No, PS3 is a splendid system. I will enjoy it to the fullest extent. If PS4 turns out to be some waggle shit I will just concentrate on my other interests (computers, movies etc). Not so bad actually, maybe then I can get that lens I want.
Well i guess thats win/win for everyone then. People who dislike it can do something else and those that do can explore creative new ideas without it being dismissed as "waggle shit" constantly until they are discouraged to do so and delve back into the "safe traditional" route of development. The industry can actually have a chance of regrowth
Threi said:Well i guess thats win/win for everyone then. People who dislike it can do something else and those that do can explore creative new ideas without it being dismissed as "waggle shit" constantly until they are discouraged to do so and delve back into the "safe traditional" route of development. The industry can actually have a chance of regrowth
let's hope so, I've always wanted the PC to dominate again.
Leon S. Kennedy
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I have used different ultrasound distance meters and they were all horribly inaccurate. They also don't work in noisy environments. I've since switched to laser distance meters and they work fantastically, but at about 10x the cost. I just don't see ultrasound working very well for gaming even if combined with other inputs.
Count Dookkake
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Aegus said:
That is pretty funny, but not as funny as the people who promised to quit gaming if waggle won.
MWS Natural
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What the fuck? This shit looks turruble! :lol
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
yeah, this basically - if they release it and it doesn't do to expectation then they might not look at new control ideas/schemes. I don't want Three Wii's next gen, but i do want Sony to step up with some new ideas.
they had something like the two part controller at the Sony Expo in Odaiba, it was a bit more basic than this (and was linked to Ps2's) but there were some interesting (if badly executed) demos on show.
I'd prefer they just left it for now - it would also encourage better support to bundle it with a new machine. if EVERYONE has one packed in then -everyone- has access to one, no need to go out and buy one, etc. Your target audience is everyone with a machine rather than everyone who went out and bought another add on - that's a huge difference right there.
The first-time impact of introducing motion-sensing to the home console market is gone. This is a post-Wii scenario and as such only becomes a refinement of what's already been introduced. And it certainly didn't do much for the impact of the Sixaxis motion-sensing capabilities to to launch with a new platform.gofreak said:
This is also a post-Guitar Hero/Rock Band world where gamers have shown they're quite willing to buy expensive peripherals that ultimately work with only a very limited set of games, midstream in a platform life cycle. The introduction of the original DualShock is almost a classic example by now of a successful mid-generation launch of a new peripheral. Would you say the buzz around the PS2 was blunted by the fact that it only had an improved version of the DS packed in? Even Eyetoy did rather well for itself when it was first introduced.
Mid-generation launch of a peripheral isn't really a source of concern by itself. It's always going to be about whether you've got a compelling use case that can be readily complemented with compelling content. That's what is going to dictate when you can launch, not whether you can pack it in with every console unit.
plagiarize
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what? this patent application is put after Nintendo's patent applications. for it to pass it cannot use the stuff Nintendo patented. there are other motion controller patents out there. this is the first one i've seen using sonar which seems an unusual way of doing things.TAJ said:
i'm not calling Sony copycats, i'm correctly pointing out that they have to work around other people's patents... and as i said, if this works well, GOOD. i like wii controls, i'd love to see them being used by the 360 or PS3 as an option.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
and despite its success , how many titles supported it?
10? 20?
i'm not denying you can sell an add on mid launch, but for something that you'd hope would move your platform potentially in a different direction, i'd have thought you'd needed a much wider catchment. And that catchment would/could/should ensure more ideas and software that support the new peripheral.
I'm not sure the ps2 DS is a good example, it's fundamentally the same controller, it was supported by -every- game by default on the basic level.
PistolGrip
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The generation of the peripheral contines.
rollingstart
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realistically, I wouldn't mind a game controller that can do proper motion controls instead of the imprecise Wii (let's wait and see how Motion+ helps it), but this looks like crap. I think they should try to do more face tracking stuff using the PS eye, or even break out that other patent a while back of a controller than goes in the palm of your hand and fits like the underpart of a glove.
Really curious to see the actual design of this. I notice the sticks are placed simmetrically in the faceplate used to link the two parts together.
But I have no idea how a faceplate that thin can host all the required innards. Unless they plan to use the PSP stick. Which would suck tremendously.
But I have no idea how a faceplate that thin can host all the required innards. Unless they plan to use the PSP stick. Which would suck tremendously.
TTP said:
SCEJ have a couple of patents from last year that have more...stylish..controller designs. Of course, they're not in any way related to this, but still interesting I guess. One looks like a ipod nano stick or something, the other is a circular controller to fit in the palm of your hand.
road2serfdom
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Looks a little like the Alien weapon in the Conduit.
liquidspeed
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Looks cool, but I hope that what ever it is designed for ( ps3 or ps4) Doesnt Take on a Wii LIke focus.stuburns said:
professor_t
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herod said:
If waggle is the only option in the next generation, I'm definitely going PC.
I don't say that in a bitter baby temper tantram kind of way; I simply want to have a traditional option. A lot of the time, I'd rather just hit a button to make a character jump than wiggle a controller from side-to-side.
Also, look at the size of the balls on that controller!!
Somewhere around there, at most. Which is still more games than support the plastic faux guitars that people are buying readily to play a glorified version of Frequency/Amplitude. So it's not a matter of quantity, it's a matter of the quality and the consistency of the support.DCharlie said:
But it's not a different direction, it's a direction they've been exploring and expanding into for two generations now. First with the Eyetoy, now with the Sixaxis. Waiting for the PS4 to launch the DualCock would still just be a progression along the same path they've been following, not a new direction.
Based on this patent this appears to be fundamentally the same controller as the DS3. All the existing control schemes are there, so it too would be supported by every game by default on the basic level.
For reference, here are some pics from two japanese SCE patents from last year. They're NOT related to this patent, but they are an insight into some of the stuff they work on, I guess.
First one (no idea what it's application is exactly):
Second one:
This one's kind of interesting..looks like it has 4 buttons on one side, and thumb tracker for analog motion on the other, and two triggers on the side. It has other functionality, but I can't read the patent text. This kind of design could be interesting as a design for the one-handed controller in the OP - could incorporate the LED array so that the whole controller glows as a sphere etc. - although it would trade some functionality for simplicity (chiefly that you can't have two thumb trackers and a set of buttons available all at once..it's either two thumb trackers or two sets of buttons or one of each at any one time)
First one (no idea what it's application is exactly):
Second one:
This one's kind of interesting..looks like it has 4 buttons on one side, and thumb tracker for analog motion on the other, and two triggers on the side. It has other functionality, but I can't read the patent text. This kind of design could be interesting as a design for the one-handed controller in the OP - could incorporate the LED array so that the whole controller glows as a sphere etc. - although it would trade some functionality for simplicity (chiefly that you can't have two thumb trackers and a set of buttons available all at once..it's either two thumb trackers or two sets of buttons or one of each at any one time)
Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
A sound wave detection? That seems like it would be a battery drain.
But it's just a patent so we really shouldn't assume anything, of course they're looking into motion controller ideas. By the time they get onto it though we'll have moved on, Nintendo included.
But it's just a patent so we really shouldn't assume anything, of course they're looking into motion controller ideas. By the time they get onto it though we'll have moved on, Nintendo included.