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PS2 Emulation with PCSX2 - share your game configs!
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Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
FF12 Zodiac I noticed some slowdowns today. Giza Plains was the big one mostly.
Got i5 750
460 gtx 1gb
and settings in the OP.
What would I suggest to drop down, or would the issue just be this area as there were lens flares etc on screen.
Got i5 750
460 gtx 1gb
and settings in the OP.
What would I suggest to drop down, or would the issue just be this area as there were lens flares etc on screen.
arnoldocastillo2003
Member
Guys any ROGUE GALAXY?
Try turning down/off HW AA if you have it enabled, then lowering the D3D internal res if that makes no difference. If that has no effect, then try enabling speedhacks (EE Cycle Rate and VU Cycle Stealing)...Corran Horn said:
Just trying to figure out if the bottleneck is your CPU or GPU. I have the exact same graphics card and just ran through Giza Plains (the Rains though) without any frame drops.
I think it's in your best interest to figure out what settings will get you full speed in this situation, since most of the busy open areas like Giza Plains will probably be similarly demanding.
kpeezy said:
I'm stilling getting problems even with that settings.
Your CPU blows mine out the water, but my GPU is a lot stronger.
My CPU is an AMD 955 4x3.2ghz with a Radeon 6870 1gb.
This pretty much proves having a powerful CPU is much more useful for emulation than a better GPU. :/
Oh man, just saw my first major slowdown in FF12 IZJS... Some of the level 3 Quickenings (and Balthier's level 2) would hit ~40fps at points. Got 'em all to run at fullspeed by dropping upscaling down to 3x, so it's definitely just my GPU hitting a limit when dealing with all the effects at a higher res.
Still gonna play through the game at 4x, it's not like I use those very often. Boss attack animations like Sporefall, summons, and most Quickenings don't have any frame drops...
Still gonna play through the game at 4x, it's not like I use those very often.
Boss attack animations like Sporefall, summons, and most Quickenings don't have any frame drops...Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Must have been some glitch because I reloaded later and was fine. Shrug.ExMachina said:
Baloonatic
Member
I've played through God Hand multiple times with PCSX2 at full speed.
Game Info and Performance
Title (Region): God Hand (PAL)
Completion: 100%
Default FPS: 60
Frame drops from fullspeed: No
Widescreen option available in game: No
Issues:
- Must be set to 60 hertz mode or there will a bunch of lines and stuff on the screen.
Build and Plugins Used
Build: SVN r3878 and r4572
Graphics: GSdx
Sound: SPU2-X
Emulation Settings
Graphics Plugin Settings
Renderer: Direct3D11 (Hardware)
Interlacing: None
D3D Upscaling: D3D internal res - See below, Scaling - 2-3x, Native resolution - no
Hardware Mode Settings: Texture Filtering - yes, Allow 8-bit textures - no, Logarithmic Z - n/a, Alpha Correction (FBA) - n/a
Hacks: N/A
NOTE: 4x upscaling is out of the question. Setting the internal resolution to 1920x1080 also works fine and is generally what I use.
Sound Plugin Settings
Mixing Settings: Interpolation - Linear, Reverb Boost Factor - 1X
Output Settings: Module - XAudio 2, Latency - 150 ms, Synchronizing Mode - TimeStretch, Audio Expansion Mode - Stereo
Enable Debug Options: no
Use a Winamp DSP Plugin: no
Computer Specs
OS: Windows 7 64-bit
CPU: Intel i7-950 at 4.0GHz
GPU: 1GB ATI 5870
RAM: 6GB
I'll try and get some decent screenshots at some point, sorry if it looks a bit lazy right now.
Also, I use the exact same settings with Yakuza and it runs fine. Only halfway through but not had any problems outside of blurry cutscenes. They can apparently be fixed with the skipdraw hack.
Game Info and Performance
Title (Region): God Hand (PAL)
Completion: 100%
Default FPS: 60
Frame drops from fullspeed: No
Widescreen option available in game: No
Issues:
- Must be set to 60 hertz mode or there will a bunch of lines and stuff on the screen.
Build and Plugins Used
Build: SVN r3878 and r4572
Graphics: GSdx
Sound: SPU2-X
Emulation Settings
Graphics Plugin Settings
Renderer: Direct3D11 (Hardware)
Interlacing: None
D3D Upscaling: D3D internal res - See below, Scaling - 2-3x, Native resolution - no
Hardware Mode Settings: Texture Filtering - yes, Allow 8-bit textures - no, Logarithmic Z - n/a, Alpha Correction (FBA) - n/a
Hacks: N/A
NOTE: 4x upscaling is out of the question. Setting the internal resolution to 1920x1080 also works fine and is generally what I use.
Sound Plugin Settings
Mixing Settings: Interpolation - Linear, Reverb Boost Factor - 1X
Output Settings: Module - XAudio 2, Latency - 150 ms, Synchronizing Mode - TimeStretch, Audio Expansion Mode - Stereo
Enable Debug Options: no
Use a Winamp DSP Plugin: no
Computer Specs
OS: Windows 7 64-bit
CPU: Intel i7-950 at 4.0GHz
GPU: 1GB ATI 5870
RAM: 6GB
I'll try and get some decent screenshots at some point, sorry if it looks a bit lazy right now.
Also, I use the exact same settings with Yakuza and it runs fine. Only halfway through but not had any problems outside of blurry cutscenes. They can apparently be fixed with the skipdraw hack.
Giza Plains slows down for me with any kind of HW AA enabled, it may be the draw distance and the way they're using effects there or something.ExMachina said:Oh man, just saw my first major slowdown in FF12 IZJS... Some of the level 3 Quickenings (and Balthier's level 2) would hit ~40fps at points. Got 'em all to run at fullspeed by dropping upscaling down to 3x, so it's definitely just my GPU hitting a limit when dealing with all the effects at a higher res.
Still gonna play through the game at 4x, it's not like I use those very often.
Some Quickenings also slow down, almost like it's having memory issues our loading issues. These only happen at the very end of them though when there is a big effects filled explosion.
intheinbetween
Member
hey guys, I don't know if this is the right thread to post this, but anyway. I'm looking forward to buy an ATI HD5850 for 100, I was wondering if this card is good enogh for PCSX2
intheinbetween
Member
ExMachina said:
thanks for your attention man.
right now my computer is still powered by an Intel E8500 CPU at its default speed.
Game Info and Performance
Title (Region): Shadow of the Colossus (NTSC)
Summary: Playable at full speed but highly demanding, requires speed hacks.
Completion: 30%
Default FPS: 60
Frame drops from fullspeed: During some cutscenes, increase speed hacks to avoid slowdown.
Widescreen option available in game: yes
Issues:
- when using hardware renderers, excessive bloom washes out image - lessened at higher resolutions or can be removed with a custom GSdx plugin
- misaligned lighting effects and black bars on right/bottom of screen when upscaled, fixed by enabling offset hack
NOTE: Do NOT enable progressive scan mode in the in-game options. It will make the game even more demanding to run without any difference in image quality.
Summary: Playable at full speed but highly demanding, requires speed hacks.
Completion: 30%
Default FPS: 60
Frame drops from fullspeed: During some cutscenes, increase speed hacks to avoid slowdown.
Widescreen option available in game: yes
Issues:
- when using hardware renderers, excessive bloom washes out image - lessened at higher resolutions or can be removed with a custom GSdx plugin
- misaligned lighting effects and black bars on right/bottom of screen when upscaled, fixed by enabling offset hack
NOTE: Do NOT enable progressive scan mode in the in-game options. It will make the game even more demanding to run without any difference in image quality.
Build and Plugins Used
Build: SVN r3878
Graphics: GSdx
Sound: SPU2-X
OPTIONAL: an alternative graphics plugin - eliotcougar's custom SotC GSdx plugin - removes bloom and other problematic visual effects
Graphics: GSdx
Sound: SPU2-X
OPTIONAL: an alternative graphics plugin - eliotcougar's custom SotC GSdx plugin - removes bloom and other problematic visual effects
Emulation Settings
EE/IOP: default
VUs: default
GS: Framelimiter - enabled, Frameskipping - disabled, Use Synchronized MTGS - no, Disable all GS output - no
GS Window: Aspect Ratio - Widescreen (16:9) - Custom Window Size - 976x690, Disable window resize border - no, Always hide mouse cursor - no, Hide window on suspend - yes, Default to fullscreen mode on open - yes, Use exclusive fullscreen mode (if available) - no, Wait for vsync on refresh - no
Speed Hacks: enabled, default + EE Cycle Rate - 2, VU Cycle Stealing - 2
Game Fixes: none
VUs: default
GS: Framelimiter - enabled, Frameskipping - disabled, Use Synchronized MTGS - no, Disable all GS output - no
GS Window: Aspect Ratio - Widescreen (16:9) - Custom Window Size - 976x690, Disable window resize border - no, Always hide mouse cursor - no, Hide window on suspend - yes, Default to fullscreen mode on open - yes, Use exclusive fullscreen mode (if available) - no, Wait for vsync on refresh - no
Speed Hacks: enabled, default + EE Cycle Rate - 2, VU Cycle Stealing - 2
Game Fixes: none
Graphics Plugin Settings
Renderer: Direct3D11 (Hardware)
Interlacing: None
D3D Upscaling: D3D internal res - n/a, Scaling - 3x, Native resolution - no
Hardware Mode Settings: Texture Filtering - yes, Allow 8-bit textures - no, Logarithmic Z - n/a, Alpha Correction (FBA) - n/a
Hacks: HW Anti Aliasing - 0, Alpha Hack - no, Offset Hack - yes, Skipdraw Hack - 0
Interlacing: None
D3D Upscaling: D3D internal res - n/a, Scaling - 3x, Native resolution - no
Hardware Mode Settings: Texture Filtering - yes, Allow 8-bit textures - no, Logarithmic Z - n/a, Alpha Correction (FBA) - n/a
Hacks: HW Anti Aliasing - 0, Alpha Hack - no, Offset Hack - yes, Skipdraw Hack - 0
NOTE: Any HW AA would cause significant frame drops during cutscenes, even with speed hacks enabled.
NOTE: Offset hack is necessary to avoid having black bars on the right and bottom of the screen and align lighting effects properly, but will cause thin white lines in the top and left.
Sound Plugin Settings
Mixing Settings: Interpolation - Linear, Reverb Boost Factor - 1X
Output Settings: Module - XAudio 2, Latency - 150 ms, Synchronizing Mode - TimeStretch, Audio Expansion Mode - Stereo
Enable Debug Options: no
Use a Winamp DSP Plugin: no
Output Settings: Module - XAudio 2, Latency - 150 ms, Synchronizing Mode - TimeStretch, Audio Expansion Mode - Stereo
Enable Debug Options: no
Use a Winamp DSP Plugin: no
Computer Specs
OS: Windows 7
CPU: Intel i5-2500k at 4.5GHz
GPU: 1GB nVidia GTX 460
RAM: 8GB
CPU: Intel i5-2500k at 4.5GHz
GPU: 1GB nVidia GTX 460
RAM: 8GB
Screenshots/Video
darkpaladinmfc
Member
Without overclocking, my Q6600 ran the game fine from start to finish, except during full-moon bosses I would get a bit of slowdown, so you should be fine.rhfb said:Anyone have some Persona 3 FES settings? If not then I guess I'll post what I end up using sometime later tonight. Hope to have it running well without needing to overclock my Q9550 too much
You'll probably be okay with the default settings, since P3 is supposed to run very similarly to P4.rhfb said:
I'm not familiar at all with the Mac version, but if some kind soul has run PCSX2 on a Mac and they'd like to share, I'd definitely add the info to the OP.Bukana said:
Did you get any kind of error message (maybe some text in the console?) or did the program just crash when you tried to boot the game?
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
Oh yes. Been tinkering a bit with PCSX2. So many settings. This thread is perfect. Subscribed!
ExMachina said:
So far it is running mostly fine. I only went with 2x scaling to make sure it going to at least attempt to run at 60fps. Game ran fine there for most of what I just finished playing. There was an issue where the audio would get really slow and the fps would dip to like 52, but that only happened in one area and wasn't constant so I think I can fix it as well as push the graphics up even more. Well, I hope I can fix it...
Any way to take a screenshot of the rendered image or do I have to resort to FRAPS for that?
F8 will take uncompressed screenshots of PCSX2's video output - the images should be saved to a folder named "shots" in your PCSX2 settings directory.rhfb said:
And maybe speed hacks can help keep the framerate up... I never noticed any ill effects when increasing them in P4.
Ah, that's odd. Have you tried any other games? Ripping it to an image instead of running it from the drive? (though first and foremost, do you have a BIOS rom in the correct directory?)Bukana said:
Thanks for for offering some help! =] I actually did a little more reading about it, and here's the page with info about the PCSX2 Mac ports...Billychu said:
http://pcsx2mac.net/
Judging by the current state of compatibility/performance, I think it'd probably be better just to redirect any Mac-only users to run a later SVN in bootcamp instead. =/ Still, if you do decide to try it out, be sure to let us know about your results.
All 3 of the options work fine - I've run games at a custom internal resolution, with upscaling by a multiplier, and at native PS2 resolution... To run a set resolution (like your monitor's native one), you have to make sure upscaling is set to 1x and the native box unchecked. But like previously mentioned, it may introduce some graphical glitches so IMO it's better to upscale with a multiplier as much as your GPU can handle it.onken said:
Running the game at a res greater than your monitor improves image quality (since HW AA is pretty demanding and not well supported, it's the best way to get an anti aliasing effect), so it's definitely not a waste. Though I can understand wanting to run at the monitor's native res if it might be more manageable performance-wise than 3x or 4x.
Setting the resolution to anything other than an integer multiple of the PS2 internal res can lead to a lot of problems, so it's usually best to just stick with 3x or 4x (or 5/6x if your GPU can handle it). Higher rendering resolutions are mostly equivalent to supersampling AA, so they're not wasted at all.onken said:
Edit: Yeah, I just repeated exactly what ExMachina said over an hour ago. That's what you get for blindly replying to a thread you opened before watching a TSL match.
Gvaz said:FF12 with hwAA x2 at 2x resolution (I can do 4x most of the time but not at 1920x1200 and certainly not at 1280x720, I simply don't have the CPU for it)
Looks a little stretched because it's 16:9->16:10 but it's not a big deal for me
Doesn't look very sharp like everyone elses screenshots?
that's because it's 2x native instead of 3x or 4x
I can run them, but not at full speed with lots of things on screen. It's because im running sse2 not sse4
This is at 4x @ 1280x720. In this specific situation I was getting 50~ fps
Also I had the wrong interlacing on at the time I took the SS which is why there's that weird square shit on the edges.
I can run them, but not at full speed with lots of things on screen. It's because im running sse2 not sse4
This is at 4x @ 1280x720. In this specific situation I was getting 50~ fps
Also I had the wrong interlacing on at the time I took the SS which is why there's that weird square shit on the edges.
What weapon is equipped on Vaan in your first shot, Gvaz?
But yeah, anyone who's playing with PCSX2... feel free to post your screenshots here. I get the feeling the OP/thread title seems a bit restrictive and hope it's not scaring people off unless they have a config to share... screens were posted all the time in the previous topic! So please, share. =]
Here's a couple shots from Shadow of the Colossus that I grabbed while playing, I think my config's gonna hold up through the rest of the game but it'll be nice to get confirmation of 100% completion with it. I'm definitely going to be keeping an eye on the FPS counter during the later cutscenes and more elaborate colossi...
Click for full 1280x720, you should be able to see what the white lines/graphical glitches in the top and left look like when using the offset hack --
But yeah, anyone who's playing with PCSX2... feel free to post your screenshots here. I get the feeling the OP/thread title seems a bit restrictive and hope it's not scaring people off unless they have a config to share... screens were posted all the time in the previous topic! So please, share. =]
Here's a couple shots from Shadow of the Colossus that I grabbed while playing, I think my config's gonna hold up through the rest of the game but it'll be nice to get confirmation of 100% completion with it. I'm definitely going to be keeping an eye on the FPS counter during the later cutscenes and more elaborate colossi...
Click for full 1280x720, you should be able to see what the white lines/graphical glitches in the top and left look like when using the offset hack --
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
I'm pretty sure nothing's changed about the compatibility of SotC in later SVNs... so why not try a later revision? Any of them can load eliotcougar's "no bloom" GSdx plugin (I've used it in r3878 just fine), if you want.Kuran said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8nbINSRutg&feature=youtu.be
This thread has got me wondering how well MMX Collection works on this emulator. Anyone here tried it? I'd like to pick up the game and it'd be cool to play on my PC.
MidgarBlowedUp
Member
Any tips for fixing controller lag? I had to go back to PS2 to finish FFXII due to the lag.
Also, one could potentially use an old Dual Core E5400/E5200 and OC it to 3.5 on the stock cooler or take it to 4~5 Ghz with aftermarket. That should make a budget system powerful enough to run most games at acceptable framerates.
Also, one could potentially use an old Dual Core E5400/E5200 and OC it to 3.5 on the stock cooler or take it to 4~5 Ghz with aftermarket. That should make a budget system powerful enough to run most games at acceptable framerates.
MidgarBlowedUp said:
Which controller? I have what I see as no perceptible lag using a USB-adapter for a PS2 controller. Of course, I'm not too terribly sensitive to these things (and honestly it must be pretty damn bad lag if its affecting your ability to play a game like FFXII).
Baloonatic
Member
MidgarBlowedUp said:
I think I remember v-sync causing input lag in some games.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Btw wouldn't running the pal version of games be a good way to get more reliable performance without messing with speed hacks etc and the sound problems and glitches and effort that comes with them?
Pal games always run at 50 fps (vs 60 from ntsc), persona 4 and ico are capped at 50 for me and I don't get much slowdown in persona (3x scaling too) with a 3ghz phenom II and a hd4870 , running in dx10 mode.
No slowdown in ico.
Pal games always run at 50 fps (vs 60 from ntsc), persona 4 and ico are capped at 50 for me and I don't get much slowdown in persona (3x scaling too) with a 3ghz phenom II and a hd4870 , running in dx10 mode.
No slowdown in ico.
Grinchy
Banned
Weird question, but has anyone had an issue with putting the PS2 dvds in their PC? Vista keeps freezing every time I put a PS2 game in. I have turned off all the auto-loading options, and I've made images of my discs in the past without any issues. This thread has made me want to play some FFXII and Persona 4.
nincompoop
Banned
I doubt it since performance relies more on your CPU than GPU. Same reason why frame skipping doesn't help much.SneakyStephan said:
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Maybe Im stupid but taking photos with pcsx2 causes them to be 4:3 ratio although Im playing in widescreen (picture turns out really squished). Did I miss some setting?
darkpaladinmfc said:
I was able to emulate that with almost no slowdown on a AMD Athlon 7750 BE with a Nvidia 9400gt video card at 1280*1024, same with Nocturne and P4.
FF12 Ran at 55fps, with little slowdown as well. JRPG's are easy to emulate and do not take the same lvl of hardware.
aronnov reborn
Banned
subscribed. i finally broke down and have my ps2 hooked back up but would love to re-try this.
If you use F8 to take a screen, it records the raw, full size output rendered by the emulator and not the final video that's displayed on your screen. FF12's native resolution is 512x448 (which is even more squarish than 4:3) even if you set the in-game options to 16:9... and upscaled with a multiplier it retains that squashed look. The emulator then resizes this raw output to fit the aspect ratio you set in GS Window options.Corran Horn said:
So I usually resize any of the raw screenshots from PCSX2 to the proper AR/my screen resolution before posting, though you can skip the resizing step by using Fraps (or the Steam overlay) to take screens since it'll cap the final, resized video output instead.
Hopefully that makes sense... not sure if I'm being very clear about this. >.<