Puppet Shadow
Member
Ya. Damn... and Activision was working their way back into my good books. Hopefully it's a console ban thingy that gets sorted out. This was the same guy that Major Nelson promised to take care of, right?
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COD Ghosts Xbox One offline (2 weeks before launch) not possible without Live?
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Yes, but if he can't even go to settings is most likely that this is not an Activision issue but a MS one, and it all points towards the patch he downloaded wasn't the one that removes the DRM which will be available on launch day. I mean, he downloadd a 500mb patch but I remember people were sayong that the day one update wasaround the 1.4GB mark, is a significant difference in size
Not by CBOAT, but it was definitely mentioned. I've struck out trying to find the post though, so you'll just have to take my word for it.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
I don't think he downloaded the Day One Patch. This is what the guy who did the AMA a day ago posted in regarded to the 500MB update thing.
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Of course, because some games like Titanfall are online only.
MaulerX
Member
That was yesterday
This is today
Nothing to worry here tbh. Like someone said, he got "a" patch but not the DRM removal patch. He could've played the game yesterday because he was still within the 24 hr. before the system required the online check.
We need more clarification. First he says it works then he says it won't work at all even in settings. So I wonder if his system is bricked or he can use it just not play any games. I think it has something to do with his temporary ban.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Why 'oh come on'? That is very specific wording. Why not just say 'play games'.
That's pretty fucked if true. Hopefully this has to do with the Day 1 patch not being the actual Day 1 patch.
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
What happened to his console after the tweet that said he could play offline when it as banned?
I call bullshit on that, why would retail units have access to the nightly builds of the Firmware?
Titan Fall
Major Nelson tweeted roughly the same thing. Knickers gonna twist.
NintendoRev
Member
The patch he probably downloaded wasn't the "day one" patch, but an updated-but-not-final build of the OS, and the 24 hour limit seems like it's still in place. Either that or there's a patch for Ghosts itself that he's missing that isn't published at the moment.
Brain of J
Banned
I don't give a shit what some dude who got a system early can or can't play. Nor should anyone else. This is just a stupid topic that has legs because it's about the Xbox...lol.
This could be a result of the console breaking the street date. There's no way Microsoft is this inept... right?
If this happens during launch week then the internet might explode. Let's all hope Microsoft has their stuff together.
Louis Cyphre
Banned
That was yesterday
This is today
Well if that's the case I'm sure the OP will want to make sure this doesn't get out of hand and wait for when the system comes out.
plasmawave
Banned
https://twitter.com/Moonlightswami/status/399753896861515778
So it seems like MS can ban you from playing games offline too.
So it seems like MS can ban you from playing games offline too.
You do know that the xbox isnt out for 2 weeks right? There isnt supposed to be retail units yet.
You'd think the MAJOR deal of turning off the 24-hour check would be absolutely implemented into every single patch as soon as possible, no?
I'm willing to give the benefit of doubt here until we know more, but I do recall Larry Hryb saying that he would be able to play CoD offline until the network is up and he's "unbanned".
I won't respond to the pointless persecution complex, but I'll say this -- you should "give a shit". It may be the case that the policy changed so that bans actually also lock out offline content, unlike the 360.
I'm willing to give the benefit of doubt here until we know more, but I do recall Larry Hryb saying that he would be able to play CoD offline until the network is up and he's "unbanned".
I won't respond to the pointless persecution complex, but I'll say this -- you should "give a shit". It may be the case that the policy changed so that bans actually also lock out offline content, unlike the 360.
So the options that seem most likely is that the patch he got did not fully remove the DRM option and that the 24 hour check is still active on his system. Since he cannot currently go online thanks to his ban, it's effectively a non-check in.
I am going with this for now because it's the only thing that makes sense for me
I am going with this for now because it's the only thing that makes sense for me
He has a dev kit
"any disc based Xbox One game"
I'd like to think (like you would probably too) that Microsoft is competent enough to restrict access to the repository containing its nightly Firmware builds, do you not?
To just give an idea
Say a user gets an Xbox one at launch and updates it once and never takes it online again
A game comes out down the road that makes use of an awesome new API and the game has the firmware update on disc... but the system can't do anything with it because the launch window system builds couldn't update by disc so you would need to go online for that update for that game as it wont work otherwise
GalacticaN7
Banned
Ok, I just found a picture of Call of Duty: Ghosts Xbox One packaging.
It does NOT say offline play is enabled.
This doesn't confirm anything one way or the other, of course, but there it is.
Megaton!!!!
Not Really
At the very least, this should garner a twitter response from Major or Panello me thinks...just for clarification of course.
Puppet Shadow
Member
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume you didn't know the guy downloaded the day one patch, and everything was working fine until he was banned an hour and a half into playing COD.
Maninthemirror
Banned
Here is what it says behind the Xbox one call of duty ghosts box
People are giving this legs because they want to know if drm practices are still in place. Microsoft went back on its policy but Activision could have built in drum for their next gen COD.
Vestal
Gold Member
Umm this is still beta for them. "retail" units are out in Dev/Beta tester environments around the country connected to live downloading updates.
I wouldn't be so sure. May be the ban that MS imposed was a complete console ban and not just access to Live. This might have nothing to do with DRM.
EDIT:
Welp. This is confusing indeed. The quote below says only Live access has been prohibited. But he says he can't even access system settings.
They have to push the updates live at some point. Do you want months of firmware updates being push to a live environment first the first time at midnight on the 22nd? That would be a disaster and even the worst developer in the world wouldnt do that.
Syphon Filter
Member
I think it's because of the patch being needed.
Foghorn Leghorn
Unconfirmed Member
So MS has another knee jerk reaction and banned him, not wanting him to disclose any NDA'd info, which if anything would have built hype. Instead now he can't play offline and this will turn into another big PR problem.
It's as if somehow Sony has hired MS to market the PS4.
It's as if somehow Sony has hired MS to market the PS4.
Same here. I understand people getting ahead of themselves due to how awful the DRM was when it was first revealed but there is no way Microsoft is this stupid. So we wait.
Cow Goes Moo
Member
how entertaining lol
MEGATON
He shouldn't of been banned in the first place, but it was his fault for bringing attention to him self.
Yeah. Nelson has a blog post related to the early xbox one's: http://majornelson.com/2013/11/09/a-few-xbox-ones-have-appeared-in-the-wild/
"given we are still putting the finishing touches on our games, UI and online services, as well as confidential partner and media agreements, these consoles units will be restricted from connecting to Xbox Live until closer to our launch date."
Finishing touches to these items indicate that he doesn't have the full update.
Pretty much the same here with the caveat that activision could have implemented online-only on their lonesome by the looks of the retail box backs. Still, interesting.
In a more controlled way, yes definitely. No screening at all? By console serial # or even MAC? Are they that incompetent?
Puppet Shadow
Member
I'd assume that update would be included on the game disk as well. I think the dash on my 360 updated when I popped in a new game disk (I don't have my 360 connected).