I thought it was cool when the elephant tried throwing the spear back at them. That was pretty bad ass, actually. I felt respect for it. But you know an elephant would feed a lot of people.
Playing Age of Empires taught me that.
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African tribes hunting with spears in Africa... most depressing video I've seen
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I thought it was cool when the elephant tried throwing the spear back at them. That was pretty bad ass, actually. I felt respect for it. But you know an elephant would feed a lot of people.
Playing Age of Empires taught me that.
That may or may not be true to be fair. The way the animal exist before the slaughter perhaps. These animals are running free before they are killed whereas on farms thats rarely the case.
But we don't know how if these guys are actually killing the animals correctly before they start skinning and chopping them up. The animals could very well be alive during that whole process.
Which even happens in factory farming when the methods are a bit more thought out and methodical.
Juuuuuuuuuust sayin...
Civilized.... oh please. Our "civilized" means of killing animals isn't any better than hunting.
Killing with a single bullet isn't better than hunting an animal down for hours on end using ten-foot spears?
scar tissue
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duh. They are way worse because the animal suffers its whole life in a cramped cage instead of a few minutes.
I was thinking along the lines of in vitro meat or a vegetarian diet.
lol wat
Black and white rhino both say hi.
I was speaking in general terms. I didn't mean to suggest you were saying this.
In many cases it is. I think you mean our general methods of getting the meat into the mouths of our population isn't any better. The killing part is generally what we try to do right.
It's everything else that sucks.
Foxy Fox 39
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I think the hippo was worse than the elephant. Although the elephant did get one in the eye. It's amazing how it was ripping the stick out with its trunk and chucking it away.
Sutton Dagger
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They should obviously only be eating vegetables, all they have to do is complement their diet with high protein nuts and the occasional supplement.
Agreed. I think Africa Addio showed that even though the tribes have access to a more "modern" way of hunting, they simply refuse and will only use the "old ways" to gather food.
This is not only the case with hunting, but also with agriculture, hygiene and so on. This causes many of the tribes to barely develop even though they have been exposed to new technologies for decades.
On the case of how we treat our animals in preparation to become our dinner, point taken, its horrible. But on the topic of hunting specifically, it's just barbaric.
Whether or not you felt anything doesn't lessen the suffering of this or any animal. I can't get around that. Even though nature is indifferent to pain and fear in death, that is still the experience.
"That's life" doesn't make it better, or easier to ignore. Nature can fuck right off.
Edit: I totally misread your post.
Souldriver
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Yeah, I assumed this. I didn't want to single you out either.
But threads with a subject like this are very touchy touchy on gaf, so people often remark on opinions that aren't even expressed in said threads.
It happens a lot. See how vegetarianism is already dragged into this by a few people, as if the OP made any statement pro or against it. People express radical opinions, assuming the "anonymous gaffer" is their antagonist on it. /rambleFoxy Fox 39
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its pretty brutal. The life before death and the kill itself. Watch some documentaries exposing inhumane slaughterhouses.
considering they were constantly stabbing the animals after they had fallen down, I highly doubt that would be the case.
cuevas. PhD.
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What are African tribes doing in Africa?
shaowebb
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Its really sad as far as how crap it is to hunt with those things, but I'm just a nature lover so it kind of messed with me on other levels to watch them drop those animals. Yes I know they have to because of food and I'm not gonna whip out a moral argument because thats stupid in this scenario.
I'm just saying I don't handle watching animals die in any context very well. I'm gonna go watch bunnies and kittens now on youtube and remember the petting zoo...
I'm just saying I don't handle watching animals die in any context very well. I'm gonna go watch bunnies and kittens now on youtube and remember the petting zoo...
superpickleman
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Just imagine if we didn't have people killing our food for us.
I've seen the documentaries (I'm vegetarian). I'm just saying that the killing aspect is meant to be swift and efficient. I just took issue with him saying their methods of killing are better than ours. They generally aren't.
At least not in this video which is what that post implied.
Forceatowulf
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I actually found the video pretty fascinating. I've never seen African tribes hunt in large groups like that before.
Thought the music was waaaay over the top too...
Thought the music was waaaay over the top too...
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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I know Riz Orlanti did Mondo Cane, but I don't know if he did Africa Addio.
My thoughts too.
Anyway it's life, who cares, people just sad they ain't eating at McDonalds?
Pff, the meat will be as dry as beef jerky.
Ghost_Protocol
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Eating meat doesn't mean you can't also be disgusted or saddened by watching another living thing be killed right in front of you. What the fuck is wrong with some of you?
NO ONE is saying the people in that video are wrong for what they're doing.
NO ONE is saying the people in that video are wrong for what they're doing.
So if you're a vegan you're more civilized and better?
CornBurrito
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FreeMufasa
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Anyone remember those badass Africans?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNeNTMmltyc
I can't even begin to imagine the size of their balls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNeNTMmltyc
I can't even begin to imagine the size of their balls.
Regulus Tera
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I don't see the problem with this video. What am I supposed to be depressed about?
dragonelite
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Through the power of science we will make robots that do the hunting.
Then one will question why am i hunting. And he will hunt on us.
aka the Geth.
And im getting hyped for ME3 sorry.
Actually found it a cool movie.
Its nature and fuck just watch animal planet i think i saw a group of lions attack a elephant only difference was they clawed the elephant instead of spearing it.
And dam those hippo had some power in them. It almost looked like a porcupine.
CornBurrito
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You don't really have to go that far back in time though. Some places in the world never picked up farming (which only popped up around 11,000 years ago IIRC), and still subsisted on hunting/gathering. See: Australian aboriginals.
PigSpeakers
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What I meant by that is the methods available to them. We could have MUCH more "humane" methods, not to mention efficient ones, but we don't.
At least these animals had a chance to survive out in the wild, something that can't be said about most animals in meat farms.
I was looking at it from a big picture pov, not necessarily just discussing the killing but also taking into account the existence of the animals.
I'm more inclined to side with the tribe fighting for their food over the man walking down an assembly line slicing the necks of pigs.
Well which one do you want?
What thread are you reading? Plenty of people are.
Since these tribes often choose to ignore any form of modern technologies to help them hunt. I'm not even talking about making it easier on the animals, I'm just talking about the whole damn tribe hunting down a single animal instead of just a couple of hunters shooting an animal and providing food for everybody without a problem.
Watch Africa Addio, and you'll see what I mean.
Alligatorjandro
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Real men use their hands.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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CornBurrito
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Did TV exist 60,000 years ago?
Totemic and anthropomorphic art existed that far back ago, around the time of what is known as the Great Leap Forward.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward_(evolution)
TV did not teach us anthropomorphism animals.
PigSpeakers
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I only hunt for cougars.
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