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Factor 5 Animator Claims Studio is Cutting Projects, Needs Funding
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Phife Dawg
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Your point is? Or do you believe that them not paying you and thus breaking the contract entitles you to spread around internal information that can put the company in serious trouble?RandomVince said:
I really hope that it's not the end of Factor 5.
Their works for Wii looked promising from a technological point of view (I'm talking about the Lair engine on Wii in particular).
And who would not love to play another Kid Icarus game. If Nintendo still believes in that project, at least not all Factor 5 employees will be fired...
Their works for Wii looked promising from a technological point of view (I'm talking about the Lair engine on Wii in particular).
And who would not love to play another Kid Icarus game. If Nintendo still believes in that project, at least not all Factor 5 employees will be fired...
EatChildren
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KevinCow said:
All they need to do is make Eternal Darkness 2 and Ill buy enough copies to keep them alive for the next 10 years.
frankie_baby
Member
i cant be arsed to check but i'm sure the website used to say to licence musyx contact nintendo, so that was probably a one time deal that f5 got paid for a long time agoJoshuaJSlone said:
frankie_baby
Member
F#A#Oo said:
all rights to ED belong to nintendo
Surely they weren't even making Kid Icarus. For how long Matt has been pushing that rumour, Nintendo would have most likely invested a fair amount of cash, and I doubt they'd just let the company collapse. Matt's probably just full of crap.
Sucks for the people that lost their jobs.
Edit: Haha, funny post on IGN - "Geez Matt, it's crazy how far you'll go just to cover up being mistaken about Kid Icarus. Getting Factor 5 shut down? That's just cold hearted."
Sucks for the people that lost their jobs.
Edit: Haha, funny post on IGN - "Geez Matt, it's crazy how far you'll go just to cover up being mistaken about Kid Icarus. Getting Factor 5 shut down? That's just cold hearted."
frankie_baby
Member
legend166 said:
funding for one project is not gonna keep a developer afloat when its working on several
EatChildren
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frankie_baby said:
This is true, but unless a Factor 5 Kid Icarus was looking truly aweful I cant see Nintendo bailing out so quickly. Even in financial trouble Factor 5 could scrap all projects and focus on the single Nintendo title, and current finances (trouble aside) coupled with Nintendos support for their own bloody IP should be enough to keep the company afloat for the duration of development.
Smiling Bandit
Banned
Well, their run was longer than deserved. They basically got away with making the same game ten times, but the eleventh time was just one too many. Always shunning innovation and going straight for the save sequal, which is ironic considering that this is what caused their downfall in the end.
Even more ironic is that they left Nintendo to work for Sony, thinking they'd be a safe bet. They should have made something unique and new once in a while, broaden their portfolio instead of endlessly banking on these licences. And they had more than enough time getting someone on board who actually knew something about gameplay. Without that their games always felt hollow and dated and to be honest that's the reason they won't exactly be missed by the industry.
Even more ironic is that they left Nintendo to work for Sony, thinking they'd be a safe bet. They should have made something unique and new once in a while, broaden their portfolio instead of endlessly banking on these licences. And they had more than enough time getting someone on board who actually knew something about gameplay. Without that their games always felt hollow and dated and to be honest that's the reason they won't exactly be missed by the industry.
frankie_baby
Member
EatChildren said:
maybe kid icarus was looking truely awful, would explain why no one ever saw it
Black-Wind
Member
That "Eggwhatever" named guy said that they had a even better engine than Lair's for their Wii title.Jocchan said:
"Asked about the Wii game's state of completion, Eggebrecht responded: "We're pretty much at a state where we're almost done with the engine. At the same time, we've also been working on content quite a bit because we had enough running very quickly on the platform that we were able to. But the biggest milestone or mark right now is that we're almost done with the engine and it does everything that the PS3 did and then some, quite frankly. So we're pretty happy with that. "
http://wii.ign.com/articles/851/851287p1.html
Anyway . . . I say they pitched the idlea to Nintendo and Nintendo, at some point, took over leaving them to flap in the wind (thats IF theres a KI Wii.).
EatChildren
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Jocchan said:
Might be a bit of confusion there. An interview with Factor 5 stated they had an engine running on the Wii that did "everything the Lair engine does, and then some". So while I doubt it was specifically the Lair engine, it seemed to be an equivalent for the Wii.
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
element said:
All of which happened after they left Nintendo (Oh and Kuju aren't doing too bad at all so far!)
Hope that Factor 5 can survive the fall, there's a lot of talent in that company (At least from a tech perspective)
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Aren't those pro examples, though, of companies whose games had more exposure and put up bigger numbers with Nintendo IP/publishing?element said:
EatChildren
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Shiggy said:
Theyre making House of the Dead: Overkill.
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
Shiggy said:
One was Batallion Wars 2, the other has not been revealed (But it's probably a downloadable title)
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
Shiggy said:
The game was still in development at the time and a downloadable game (At least on PSN, not sure about Wii Ware and XBLA) would count as a first party published game.
LiquidMamba
Member
IIRC, Factor 5 opened up a new studio in California, but was based out of Germany. Does this news just affect the California studio, or all of Factor 5?
Cosmonaut X
Member
Christ, Matt's a prick.
Bad news for Factor 5 if this true :-(
Bad news for Factor 5 if this true :-(
JoshuaJSlone
Member
They started in Germany, but in the mid-90s they moved to California; it wasn't a separate branch.LiquidMamba said:
There were rumors a while ago, around this or last GC, that Factor5 was opening a new studio in Germany. They were already assembling a team and looking for a location back then according to the rumor. If this rumor is true, the German studio might survive, even if Factor5 USA goes out of business.JoshuaJSlone said:
charlequin
Banned
So how many more developers are going to have to go down like this before people start to actually believe that the industry's business model is some seriously fucked bullshit and the current tech acceleration is unsustainable?
Bluemercury
Member
If Nintendo i ruinining gaming Sony seems to be killing the ones who make them......2 down....:lol
Bluemercury
Member
Two companies close down because of 2 PS3 high profile invested games(failures)......we just need to wait more to see whos next.....
Yeah, the industry is going to have a tough couple of years as they come to terms with reality. People with common sense were predicting this would happen last generation: a business cannot stay afloat by making games with exponentially higher budgets with each successive generation while software and hardware sales stay relatively flat.
EmCeeGramr
Member
God, this is just an all-around terrible situation.
People acting like this is good because they didn't like Lair, or gleefully talking about how PS3 failed them, need to get some perspective.
People acting like this is good because they didn't like Lair, or gleefully talking about how PS3 failed them, need to get some perspective.
The first true gaming casualty of the economic crisis?
I'd expect a few more over the next few years.
Nintendo could always save Factor 5 by getting them to write an engine framework to help other 3rd parties develop stuff more easily for the Wii.
It would be beneficial to both parties.
I'd expect a few more over the next few years.
Nintendo could always save Factor 5 by getting them to write an engine framework to help other 3rd parties develop stuff more easily for the Wii.
It would be beneficial to both parties.