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Line_HTX
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(05-19-2017, 07:11 PM)
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Kawhi is questionable for Game 3.
Tom Penny
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(05-19-2017, 07:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gigglepoo

That's not a joke? Unless you think either will sign for less.

Bradley isn't getting maxed by the Celtics. He too unreliable from an availability standpoint and a one trick pony on offense.
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(05-19-2017, 07:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Line_HTX

Kawhi is questionable for Game 3.

The Finals should be great but man these playoffs suck

Also I'll be on vacation during the Finals! The year is a lost cause now.
True Savior
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(05-19-2017, 07:22 PM)
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Fuck Zaza movement is back.

EDIT:

From reddit

Kawhi Leonard : King of Advance Stats (This Playoffs so far) (self.nba)
1st in TS% (15 FGA/game required)
1st in PER
1st in EWA
1st in WS/48
1st in VORP
3rd in Pts/100 (30 MPG required)
4th in BPM

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comment...this_playoffs/

The Ultimate Role Player
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Monochromaticx
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(05-19-2017, 07:24 PM)
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FUCK ZAZA
Gigglepoo
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(05-19-2017, 08:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tom Penny

Bradley isn't getting maxed by the Celtics. He too unreliable from an availability standpoint and a one trick pony on offense.

Then they'll lose him. He's worth max on open market.
Bread
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(05-19-2017, 08:23 PM)
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lol @ how fast this thread turns on people

horford was literally a top 3 player in the playoffs through the first 2 series. put a guy next to him that can battle thompson on the boards and this discussion isn't happening.
Tom Penny
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(05-19-2017, 08:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gigglepoo

Then they'll lose him. He's worth max on open market.

Yeah they will.. Why do you think they are drafting Fultz? He has potentially can solve the IT or Bradley contact situations when that time comes. Guards are leaving or getting traded. There no way around that with their roster.
Peter Ian Staker
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(05-19-2017, 09:18 PM)
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Watching the Euroleague semi finals.

Anthony Bennett looking nice getting paid to watch the game from the sidelines.

Doncic looks completely lost among the older pros.
Jarate
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(05-19-2017, 09:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by Peter Ian Staker

Doncic looks completely lost among the older pros.

He's only like 17 right now. Its remarkable at all that he's playing
LegendofDragoonLives
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(05-19-2017, 09:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bread

lol @ how fast this thread turns on people

horford was literally a top 3 player in the playoffs through the first 2 series. put a guy next to him that can battle thompson on the boards and this discussion isn't happening.

True Savior
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(05-19-2017, 09:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Peter Ian Staker

Watching the Euroleague semi finals.

Anthony Bennett looking nice getting paid to watch the game from the sidelines.

Doncic looks completely lost among the older pros.


It needs to be said...it was better than any playoff game i've watched this year. Beautiful game all around.
Peter Ian Staker
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(05-19-2017, 09:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jarate

He's only like 17 right now. Its remarkable at all that he's playing

I really wouldn't start him and give him that many minutes in a Euroleague final four so soon. Give him less minutes off the bench.
Guy looked downright panicked out there.

I would let him get some more experience in the ACB and bring him along slowly. Bring him back next year just before the draft to show the world what he's got.
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Bread
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(05-19-2017, 09:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by LegendofDragoonLives

Thanks
Peter Ian Staker
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(05-19-2017, 10:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by True Savior

It needs to be said...it was better than any playoff game i've watched this year. Beautiful game all around.

For real. Both semi-finals were better than any of the conference finals so far.

My Olympiacos with it's shit budget overperforms yet again after an injury plagued season.
spyder_ur
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(05-19-2017, 10:06 PM)
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Bill Simmons' brilliant advice for the Celtics crowd tonight is to chant "you're a baby" at Lebron. I feel better about tonight's game already.
Bread
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(05-19-2017, 10:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by spyder_ur

Bill Simmons' brilliant advice for the Celtics crowd tonight is to chant "you're a baby" at Lebron. I feel better about tonight's game already.

the worst part is that i'm sure a lot of boston agrees
megalowho
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(05-19-2017, 10:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by LegendofDragoonLives

Memories be so short. Horford has been been really, really good in the playoffs.

http://www.masslive.com/celtics/inde..._like_a_s.html

Though he's not an elite rebounder, Horford can do just about everything else. Only three other players are averaging at least 15.8 points, 7.7 rebounds and 6.1 assists during the postseason: LeBron James, Russell Westbrook and Paul George. Horford currently tops the NBA in playoff true shooting percentage (a measurement of shooting efficiency) while ranking fourth in 3-point percentage (56.7). He ranks third in overall playoff win shares, trailing only James and Kawhi Leonard; fifth in VORP, trailing only Leonard, James, James Harden and Draymond Green; and ninth in box plus/minus, if you prefer that statistic.

Not to mention his leadership and experience, which has been key for a really young team throughout the season and in big moments. Hot takes about Al Horford says more about the poster than what he brings to the C's.
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panthapanda
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(05-19-2017, 10:59 PM)
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Wasn't Horford shooting like 60% from 3 thru 2 series? Lol.

Horford is good, just the silent good...which is bad to people who just look at end game pts.
darkazcura
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(05-19-2017, 11:03 PM)

Originally Posted by LegendofDragoonLives

Hmm did you notice what he did the first two rounds?
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Cornbread78
(05-19-2017, 11:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bread

the worst part is that i'm sure a lot of boston agrees

So you're saying he's not a man-child?
Hyperactivity
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(05-19-2017, 11:21 PM)
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Horford hasn't been a top 3 player. That's been LeBron, kawhi, and probably Curry at 3rd.

Originally Posted by Peter Ian Staker

Watching the Euroleague semi finals.

Anthony Bennett looking nice getting paid to watch the game from the sidelines.

Doncic looks completely lost among the older pros.

The fact that doncic gets minutes is incredible by itself, and on one of the best teams too

Also

[OC] Ryan Anderson's shooting struggles at home: A result of his colorblindness

Originally Posted by u/boxonfire

I've been researching why ryan anderson seems to struggle so much at home vs away: His shooting splits at home vs away this season:

Home:

FG%: 37.0 3PT%: 33.2 FT%: 77.3

Away:

FG%: 46.1 3PT%: 46.7% FT%: 92.9%

His shooting at home vs away is a very real and statistically significant difference. I recently read that Tracy mcgrady's complained about depth perception issues at Toyota center.

I hadn't heard about this problem before but as a half color blind person myself, I'm aware that color plays a role in depth perception. Red-green color blindness is a common form.

You can read in https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14872343 that "Color does impact our depth perception even though it is a relatively weak indicator and is not necessarily the overriding depth cue for complex, realistic objects." Some more real life examples include pilots having to take color tests due to depth perception being incredibly important.

I believe Ryan anderson's struggles at home are a result of his depth perception being skewed as he perceives the basket is closer than it really is. Depth cues like the red padding behind the basket and lines distort his depth perception and thus affect his ability to accurately gauge the distance between himself and the basket. Some would argue that shooting is muscle memory at this point in his career, but you wouldn't tell someone to shoot with their eyes closed. Visual cues still play an important role.

This could have been some anomaly, but I thought about which other teams had a predominantly red court. Chicago comes to mind. His career shooting splits in chicago?

Chicacgo:

FG%: 33.5 3PT%: 29.1% FT%: 87%

For reference, his career shooting splits:

FG%: 42.3% 3PT%: 38.1% FT%: 86.1%

So what's the solution to this? I don't see a color scheming change happening anytime soon for the rockets. Glasses aren't exactly the most appealing option either. Just thought it was worth pointing out so they can figure out a solution to accomodate him.

I can't wait till ryno starts wearing tinted goggles and becomes the most accurate 3 pt shooter in the NBA. That, or the rockets change their color scheme slightly.

Other stuff from that thread

For reference he also shot 29% from 3 @HOU in the 10 games before he became a Rocket.

To clarify, I don't think red on red is his problem. It's red as a dominant visual cue in general that affects his ability to gauge distance. So teams like cavs, hawks where red is not the primary color wouldn't affect him as much.

Jokes asides, I honestly wonder if goggles would actually help this
Vault Dweller 111
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(05-19-2017, 11:24 PM)
You can say that Horford had been good in the playoffs but still laugh at someone who says he is the third best player in the playoffs.
megalowho
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(05-19-2017, 11:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by Vault Dweller 111

You can say that Horford had been good in the playoffs but still laugh at someone who says he is the third best player in the playoffs.

According to the numbers he's right there. Give credit where credit is due.
Vault Dweller 111
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(05-19-2017, 11:39 PM)

Originally Posted by megalowho

According to the numbers he's right there. Give credit where credit is due.

The credit is "He's been good in the playoffs" I laugh at someone who says they wouldn't trade Curry or Durrant for Horford because of numbers.
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(05-19-2017, 11:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Vault Dweller 111

The credit is "He's been good in the playoffs" I laugh at someone who says they wouldn't trade Curry or Durrant for Horford because of numbers.

What???? No one said this.
Vault Dweller 111
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(05-19-2017, 11:44 PM)

Originally Posted by Bread

What???? No one said this.


Originally Posted by Bread

lol @ how fast this thread turns on people

horford was literally a top 3 player in the playoffs through the first 2 series. put a guy next to him that can battle thompson on the boards and this discussion isn't happening.

Someone responding to that was what got this started.
Bread
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(05-19-2017, 11:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Vault Dweller 111

Someone responding to that was what got this started.

Horford had been a top 3 performer in the playoffs and it's backed up by stats. Does that mean he's more valuable than Durant or Curry? Of course not, and no one would say that they'd rather have him over those two.

I honestly don't understand your argument right now.
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(05-19-2017, 11:47 PM)
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Believe in playoff Horford

I'll be watching the new alien movie so I'll miss the Celtics blowout
MVP Jaylen gonna match LeBron point for point

Olynyk gonna go back to god mode
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(05-19-2017, 11:47 PM)
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I think we should play hard today. Would be pretty embarrassing is Lebum dropped the spaghetti out of his pockets tonight. Embarrassing as fuck!
Vault Dweller 111
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(05-19-2017, 11:48 PM)

Originally Posted by Bread

Horford had been a top 3 performer in the playoffs and it's backed up by stats. Does that mean he's more valuable than Durant or Curry? Of course not, and no one would say that they'd rather have him over those two.

I honestly don't understand your argument right now.

To even say that he's been better than those two is silly to me.
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(05-19-2017, 11:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Vault Dweller 111

To even say that he's been better than those two is silly to me.

His stats have been better. It helps that he has played more competitive games while the Warriors are involved in blowouts almost every night.
Vault Dweller 111
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(05-19-2017, 11:54 PM)

Originally Posted by Bread

His stats have been better. It helps that he has played more competitive games while the Warriors are involved in blowouts almost every night.

Yea, that's fair.

All I'm saying is that I don't begrudge someone for laughing at "Al Horford has been a top 3 player in these playoffs"

Even if stats back it up.
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(05-19-2017, 11:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tom Penny

Yeah they will.. Why do you think they are drafting Fultz? He has potentially can solve the IT or Bradley contact situations when that time comes. Guards are leaving or getting traded. There no way around that with their roster.

Bradley is a dude you want a title contender. Or at least I would. Fultz, Bradley, Brown could be an awesome core.
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(05-19-2017, 11:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by Vault Dweller 111

Yea, that's fair.

All I'm saying is that I don't begrudge someone for laughing at "Al Horford has been a top 3 player in these playoffs"

Even if stats back it up.

Ok if you watched the games where he got those stats you wouldn't be laughing.

Originally Posted by Gigglepoo

Bradley is a dude you want a title contender. Or at least I would. Fultz, Bradley, Brown could be an awesome core.

On a max contract? No way. Give him $18m/year sure but a max for an undersized SG who can't create his own shot is a bad idea.
Vault Dweller 111
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Originally Posted by Bread

Ok if you watched the games where he got those stats you wouldn't be laughing.

I did watch all the games. I also watched the games where Curry and Durrant put up worse stats and yet I still came to the conclusion "these dudes are better than Al Horford"

You've got numbers on your side, you don't need me.
Tom Penny
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(05-20-2017, 12:38 AM)
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The Gerald Green experiment again..not that It will matter for the series but it's silly in general.
Hyperactivity
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(05-20-2017, 12:44 AM)
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I'm changing my mind. Horford is the 3rd best player in the playoffs
Chase17
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(05-20-2017, 01:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by Tom Penny

The Gerald Green experiment again..not that It will matter for the series but it's silly in general.

One day we'll have a fifth starter!
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(05-20-2017, 01:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by Tom Penny

The Gerald Green experiment again..not that It will matter for the series but it's silly in general.


Well, until they get a 5....
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(05-20-2017, 01:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by Cornbread78

Well, until they get a 5....

Andre Drummond should be their #1 priority in the offseason.
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(05-20-2017, 01:23 AM)
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I hope the celtic starters are watching that little video package of kenny telling them how to guard bron.

Stevens needs all the help right now. Hope he went to a Friday morning service at church
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(05-20-2017, 01:27 AM)
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Go cavs
Hydrogen Bluebird
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(05-20-2017, 01:27 AM)
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Hope it's more competitive this time and not another beatdown.
Sanjuro
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(05-20-2017, 01:29 AM)
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I hope this chow mein wills the Celtics to victory tonight!
Jarate
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(05-20-2017, 01:32 AM)
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Fuck the Celtics

Go cav
Bread
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(05-20-2017, 01:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jarate

Fuck the Celtics

Go cav

Trust C process
Sanjuro
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(05-20-2017, 01:35 AM)
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I'm no coach or anything, but shouldn't the Celtics make a shot?
Slizeezyc
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(05-20-2017, 01:36 AM)
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Gerald Green holding on for dear life.
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go C

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