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sphagnum
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(05-02-2017, 05:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by balladofwindfishes

They can, but what would that accomplish?

A delayed bill will eventually be a good bill - Shigeru Miyamotorumpu
BlastProcessing
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(05-02-2017, 05:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by ItWasMeantToBe19

Ryan can afford only 21 nos.

It's dead, Jim.

https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/859448903070093312

tuxfool
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(05-02-2017, 05:58 PM)

Originally Posted by sphagnum

A delayed bill will eventually be a good bill - Shigeru Miyamotorumpu

That would assume the bill actually gets worked on and improves in that time.
sphagnum
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(05-02-2017, 05:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by tuxfool

That would assume the bill actually gets worked on and improves in that time.

Well, it can't get much worse I guess, right?
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(05-02-2017, 05:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by Smiles and Cries

can they delay the vote until September?

Sure, but the facts wont change. They need to revise the bill again to change the tally.

If they get rid of the EHB, tuesday group wont support (EHB includes provision for pre existing conditions). If they dont, FC wont. The "compromise" they reached was let the states decide if they want to keep the provisions. It got some moderates in the yes column but it wasnt enough.
tuxfool
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(05-02-2017, 06:00 PM)

Originally Posted by sphagnum

Well, it can't get much worse I guess, right?

wrong.
AntraxSuicide
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(05-02-2017, 06:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Slacker

When they saw that what the Republicans actually came up with was Jack and Shit, everything started to fall apart.

Yeah and Jack died of a preexisting condition.
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(05-02-2017, 06:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by Slacker

Yep. Same deal when they were surveyed about the Syria missle strikes. Democrats: 38% support Obama doing it, 37% support Trump doing it. Republicans? Something like 18% supported Obama doing it, and now 82% support Trump. It's mind-boggling how so many Republicans are just plain stupid.

Fully expect that ACA will not be gutted, instead minor edge fixes, and the Republican message will be "we got rid of the onerous requirements of Obamacare, returned choice and power to the states (waivers) and the current system is serving our folks well in rural areas and cities". And it will be an easy sell.
jmdajr
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(05-02-2017, 06:04 PM)
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Trump admin. rolls back Obama-era nutrition standards for school lunches

Comedy levels of douchery
Link
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(05-02-2017, 06:05 PM)
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I love how allowing states to decide if they want to allow pre-existing conditions is enough to sway some moderate Republicans. "As long as my party isn't running your state, you'll be fine!" I mean, what?

What a fucking trash heap the GOP is.
kess
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(05-02-2017, 06:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by balladofwindfishes

They can, but what would that accomplish?

Maybe they'll schedule the health care vote, government budget, and funding for the wall on the same day and we'll all collapse into a political black hole
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(05-02-2017, 06:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by Link

I love how allowing states to decide if they want to allow pre-existing conditions is enough to sway some moderate Republicans. "As long as my party isn't running your state, you'll be fine!" I mean, what?

What a fucking trash heap the GOP is.

They're just punting the responsibility for the bad decision to the governors. It's hilariously short term thinking that sticks Republican governors in extremely awkward spots and likely hurts their re-election chances.
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(05-02-2017, 06:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by sphagnum

Well, it can't get much worse I guess, right?

Republicans: "Hold my beer."
Smiles and Cries
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(05-02-2017, 06:10 PM)
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anyone else waiting for the Hillary interview on CNN?
kess
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(05-02-2017, 06:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Link

I love how allowing states to decide if they want to allow pre-existing conditions is enough to sway some moderate Republicans. "As long as my party isn't running your state, you'll be fine!" I mean, what?

What a fucking trash heap the GOP is.

I mean, this is the same party that passed a bill last month opening the door for wellness programs to determine eligibility based on your genetic fitness, so yeah.
Smiles and Cries
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(05-02-2017, 06:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by jmdajr

Trump admin. rolls back Obama-era nutrition standards for school lunches

Comedy levels of douchery

So anything that says Obama, is fair game?
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(05-02-2017, 06:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Smiles and Cries

anyone else waiting for the Hillary interview on CNN?

Nah.

What will she be talking about?
jmdajr
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(05-02-2017, 06:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Smiles and Cries

So anything that says Obama, is fair game?

I bet that's all he sees. The name.... and wants it gone.
Last edited by jmdajr; 05-02-2017 at 06:34 PM.
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(05-02-2017, 06:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Smiles and Cries

anyone else waiting for the Hillary interview on CNN?

Eh, not really.
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(05-02-2017, 06:17 PM)
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Donut like the new title. :/

PoliGAF 2017 |OT3| Nobody knew thread making could be so complicated
Y2Kev
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(05-02-2017, 06:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by PBY

Nah.

What will she be talking about?

How much you failed her
Pixieking
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(05-02-2017, 06:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by Smiles and Cries

anyone else waiting for the Hillary interview on CNN?

Not literally waiting, but I am curious about it, yeah. Always interested in what HRC says. :)
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(05-02-2017, 06:20 PM)
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Ya boy is back and ready to eat so much pussy we start shitting clits.
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(05-02-2017, 06:24 PM)
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Trump: "You know what a donor is? I use to be a donor, I use to get everything I wanted." LOL Speech to Air Force Team
jmdajr
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(05-02-2017, 06:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by Smiles and Cries

Trump: "You know what a donor is? I use to be a donor, I use to get everything I wanted." LOL Speech to Air Force Team

I still don't know how he got through the State of The Union address.
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(05-02-2017, 06:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by Oblivion

Donut like the new title. :/

PoliGAF 2017 |OT3| Nobody knew thread making could be so complicated

New title is gated by Premium network subscription.
Smiles and Cries
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(05-02-2017, 06:30 PM)
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Hillary going in
Dominican Power
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(05-02-2017, 06:36 PM)
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You supported that useless strike, Hillary? You still haven't learned.
BlastProcessing
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(05-02-2017, 06:38 PM)
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@ZekeJMiller
QOTD: "This is going to be a disaster" óMick Mulvaney on conference call with reporters where lines were unmuted/playing hold music

The Veep-ening continues.
tbm24
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(05-02-2017, 06:38 PM)
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I do miss hearing Hillary get into the weeds about details and diplomacy. People may hate her giving a rally speech but shes good when she's in her element.
Last edited by tbm24; 05-02-2017 at 06:44 PM.
Pixieking
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(05-02-2017, 06:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dominican Power

You supported that useless strike, Hillary? You still haven't learned.

Can we have context, please, for those of us reading the thread but not watching the interview live?
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(05-02-2017, 06:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dominican Power

You supported that useless strike, Hillary? You still haven't learned.

She can't say she did not support it, she might want back into this game again someday.
StopMakingSense
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(05-02-2017, 06:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by ItWasMeantToBe19

Ryan can afford only 21 nos.

It's dead, Jim.

https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/859448903070093312

Darrell Issa is a definite No.

He barely kept his seat in November.
BlastProcessing
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(05-02-2017, 06:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dominican Power

You supported that useless strike, Hillary? You still haven't learned.

The strike itself wasn't objectionable. It's what happened before and after the strike that's the problem.
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(05-02-2017, 06:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by jmdajr

Trump admin. rolls back Obama-era nutrition standards for school lunches

Comedy levels of douchery

this clashes with what the Freedom Caucus' stance on Premium Costs depending if you were healthy or not
Fenderputty
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(05-02-2017, 06:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by tuxfool

wrong.

It would be hard to get worse. IIRC the CBO said a straight repeal with no replacement would end up with more people insured than if they pass the AHCA
Bronx-Man
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(05-02-2017, 06:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Smiles and Cries

So anything that says Obama, is fair game?

You don't understand, the damn Kenyan MUST be put in his place.
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(05-02-2017, 06:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by tbm24

I do miss hearing Hillary get into the weeds about details and deplomacy. People may hate her giving a rally speech but shes good when she's in her element.

It's so fucking frustrating that being a policy-guru, and having the ability to discuss policy with nuance is at odds with what is needed to be elected.
Dominican Power
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(05-02-2017, 06:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by Smiles and Cries

She can't say she did not support it, she might want back into this game again someday.

Originally Posted by BlastProcessing

The strike itself wasn't objectionable. It's what happened before and after the strike that's the problem.

What she should of said is how she would of done the strike differently, not support Trump's feeble attempt of strength.
tbm24
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(05-02-2017, 06:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by Suikoguy

It's so fucking frustrating that being a policy-guru, and having the ability to discuss policy with nuance is at odds with what is needed to be elected.

It pains me listening to this and then remebering all the discussing that's been going on yesterday evening and today about wtf Trump even means.
Tranqueris
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(05-02-2017, 06:47 PM)

Originally Posted by Smiles and Cries

can they delay the vote until September?

I think that any attempt to have a vote on healthcare closer to 2018 would probably be far less likely to succeed.
kirblar
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(05-02-2017, 06:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Suikoguy

It's so fucking frustrating that being a policy-guru, and having the ability to discuss policy with nuance is at odds with what is needed to be elected.

It looks like leadership skills generally go down as you get above an IQ of 120. Turns out to win elections you likely don't want your very best and brightest running.
Slacker
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(05-02-2017, 06:48 PM)

Originally Posted by tbm24

I do miss hearing Hillary get into the weeds about details and diplomacy. People may hate her giving a rally speech but shes good when she's in her element.

Can you imagine Hillary's answer if asked about the Civil War? It'd go on for hours. Instead we have, "The Civil War, yeah why'd that have to happen exactly?"
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(05-02-2017, 06:49 PM)
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((((((((((Soros)))))))))) is truly the ultimate puppetmaster. The madman was funding both sides all along!
Fenderputty
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(05-02-2017, 06:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by BlastProcessing

@ZekeJMiller
QOTD: "This is going to be a disaster" óMick Mulvaney on conference call with reporters where lines were unmuted/playing hold music

The Veep-ening continues.

Wow haha
Barzul
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(05-02-2017, 06:50 PM)
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She's right. The last 10 days with Comey and that letter really fucked her chances to win.
modernlifeisANDY
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(05-02-2017, 06:52 PM)
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Mulvaney is fired up. Trying reallllllllllly hard to justify this funding bill as a win for Trump.
whyamihere
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(05-02-2017, 06:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Fenderputty

Wow haha

hahahahahaha
Pixieking
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(05-02-2017, 06:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by Barzul

She's right. The last 10 days with Comey and that letter really fucked her chances to win.

I'd pay good money to hear Hillary let her guard down and swear like a trooper about Comey.
Blader
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(05-02-2017, 06:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by StopMakingSense

Darrell Issa is a definite No.

He barely kept his seat in November.

And he ain't keeping it next November.

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