Rushersauce
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JonTron is a cunt. Plain and simple.
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Playtonic removes JonTron from Yooka-Laylee.
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JonTron is a cunt. Plain and simple.
CannonFodder52
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I hate that he had to out himself two weeks before the launch of Yooka-Laylee. A game that a ton of devoted employees put years of their lives into.
I don't appreciate the heavy Junior bias around here.
I don't appreciate the heavy Junior bias around here.
Discotheque
Banned
fuck him and his disgusting neckbeard.
AlexFlame116
Member
Of course not. If I ever saw him I'd go shake his hand and tell him how much his shows used to make me laugh my head off. I'd treat him like he was my brother.
But like a real brother I would know when he is doing something that I believe isn't right and would greatly disagree with him on it. We're both adults so we should have an adult conversation if needs be.
These are just my thoughts though.
If you don't mind me asking, how much of this thread have you read? On a scale from "nothing" to "the thread title".
grim-tales
Member
I checked that out and I found my computer is old for a lot of games like Life Is Strange, Zero Escape and Yooka Laylee
Ok GaryGodblood. You are certainly not a troll and that one liner was meant to add meaningful discussion.
sipping on that Racism Zero (way closer to Classic Racism than Diet)
J
Jpop
Unconfirmed Member
I didn't realize that there was a reason or need to like racists?
GaryGodblood
HammerFace
Banned
It's kind of hard not to have a bias when the majority of the people banned in threads like this are junior accounts that are either used to post vile bullshit or people that came in here to defend Jon without even hearing what he said.
There's a very good reason for that. Just browse some of the more controversial threads in the history of neoGAF.
If Playtonic were that amenable to outrage they would be more likely to fold under the alt-right shitstorm than Messofanego calmly asking them for comment. Not being able to figure out why their attacks don't produce results must drive them insane.
WorldofMiku
Banned
Well I do have a strong distaste for racists...
But if there is a person here that loathes JonTron because of his racist comments, what's so bad about that?
They already hit insanity a while back by creating false narratives and conspiracy theories.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
I don't think this will hurt the game overall , at least I would assume and hope not. The team seems like really good guys from what I have seen.
DAREALGUMMY
Member
Stick around and see why that is.
I checked that out and I found my computer is old for a lot of games like Life Is Strange, Zero Escape and Yooka Laylee
Eh. sometimes that site is a bit too harsh. You'll find workarounds and such if you're PC isn't TOO bad.
SuperBanana
Banned
I liked him a lot and can understand right wing views but his are far-right racism. He was the one that said it, it's not trumped up lies.
Dreams-Visions
Member
he's not the first to make this mistake; won't be the last either. rip.
I'm new be nice
Member
Most likely they make their post and immediately forget about it all.
themagicalkitsune
Member
Guy was by and large my favourite youtuber before he turned into a steaming, festering pile of alt-right /pol/ shit.
CannonFodder52
Member
Oh sorry I should have said /s
I am aware. I see Juniors getting shot down left and right.
I hate his views, pity him and I am sad that someone that has those views has 3 million subscribers on youtube and mostly of those are kids
so now that you've had all these various responses, and should see that it isn't all just blind JonTron hate...what have you to say for yourself?
crackhead_bob
Member
Geekvolution is a great site. Devoted comic book fan, who does film reviews, etc.. Surprised no one ever heard of him on GAF.
I dont think our good friend Gary will be coming back
The devs have brought a few self-inflicted PR nightmares upon themselves in the past, so maybe they're cutting him but want to keep it quiet, or maybe they're planning to let him slip through. (As I recall the lead Gears for Breakfast guy is a big fan, or perhaps I'm confusing him with some other similar YouTuber I don't watch.)
I will say this: Nobody is up in arms about this on the Hat in Time Facebook or Kickstarter pages.
crackhead_bob
Member
Can you cite any examples where this type of backlash has hurt the sales of a game? This is a Banjo Kazooie clone for crying out loud! The optimist in me wants to believe that nothing will come of this.
The thing that boggles my mind most is that YL is using the same grunting pantomime, gibberish dialogue they used in Banjo. So whether they kept JonTron in or not, it's not like this was some important prestige assignment for the guy.
Was this game even on the radar of many alt right types to begin with? I always assumed that they were more of the type who gravitated to Call of Duty and Far Cry to be honest.
The alt right are basically the weedy version of the ultra far right. Nothing but mostly maladjusted men who never really matured and had their social interaction defined by 4Chan and Reddit style encounters. They're the sorts who are terrified of minorities from entering and diversifying their nerdy hobbies that they once had total control of. See Gamersgate and alt-right manipulation of the Hugo Awards.
Where traditional far right groups would actually be willing to get into physical conflict, the alt-right are a lot more skittish in reports I've seen. Heck, Milo's university speech entourage basically ran when the counter protests started to get physical.
So a Banjo Kazooie clone is probably up their alley considering it most appeals to the nostalgia where videos games apparently had no politics and weren't invaded by SJWs.
Complex Shadow
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crackhead_bob
Member
Dude, I played Banjo Kazooie back in the day! The game was the least political game you could ask for in a year that delivered Resident Evil 2, Metal Gear Solid, and Tekken 3.
It blows my mind. Are these the same people who were up in arms over censorship in games after Columbine, because ironically, they now seem to align with the Jack Thompsons of the world.
I, and I'm sure, many others here have grown up on coarse entertainment mediums that were anti politically correct. I watched Married....with Children and Benny Hill. I was a fan of Bill Hicks and Sam Kinison, and was a regular fan of Howard Stern back in the 1990's. I, and many others, were what you'd consider a nerd in all the classic sense possible. But I never verged into racism or misogyny. I did find solace in videogames, yes, but I was never consumed by them to the extent that my life centered on them exclusively. But at the same time, I never had multiplayer options. Anyone Genesis owners back in the day remember how Sega would market their forthcoming modem? It was like this sublime innovation that would change everything. I'm still that way. I never liked online gameplay and felt that it hobbled the singleplayer version of a game.
It's really fucked up how this hobby has grown and degenerated over the past decade. Not that I ever needed this hobby to be validated by the mainstream to give meaning to my life, but it was kind of cool to have it acknowledged in pop culture without all the usual baggage associated with the hobby, and it's a shame that we're almost back to square one in that regard.
I have to admit that Gamergate flew under my radar. But the particular details that I've since brushed up on really seem to amount to petty shit. I can't believe that this became what it ultimately became. So I am paying some attention to how this present situation will play out with Yooka Laylee.
I really loved Banjo Kazooie back in the day and wish Playtonic nothing but success for Yooka Laylee, but this almost seems like a self inflicted wound that they could have otherwise avoided. I'm not blaming them. It was a naive mistake on their part, but what were the net positives of bringing aboard a Youtube personality in the first place? I support their desire to distance themselves from anyone that could taint their product, but it concerns me that this could end up becoming another alt-right fiasco.... over a fucking Banjo Kazooie clone no less.
Screaming Meat
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Napalm_Frank
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Youtube celebrity is asshole racist, Gaf goes nuts. The usual.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
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JonTron said some stupid shit on Twitter.
He got called on it by another streamer.
Got into a two hour debate wherein he said a shitload of not even borderline racist stuff.
PlayTronic kicked him out of their game.
Has he said anything publicly about this yet? I'm guessing not.
Imp the Dimp
Member
Made a statement video where he basically doubled down on what he said. He's a full-blown racist, it's really sad to see. Like, literally Stormfront level racism to the point where believes non-whites pollute the gene pool.
edit: Or do you mean about being kicked from the game? He tweeted something not stupid for once.
Gross. Well, he's made his bed.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Other than saying "PlayTronic can do what they want", no.
This, too.
Oh no, you really need to find a way to play LiS and the Zero Escape games, they are incredible! (haven't played Zero Time Dilemma yet, so only talking about the first 2)I checked that out and I found my computer is old for a lot of games like Life Is Strange, Zero Escape and Yooka Laylee
crackhead_bob
Member
Yeah, but apparently there's a contingent of angry gamers who are intent on mass boycotting the game to the point of advocating piracy or poisoning the well for those who support Playtonic dropping JonTron by falsely claiming that it supports white supremacy.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
.... the exact thing they said they are dropping Jafari for?
grim-tales
Member
I've played ZE on other systems, but wanted to get 'The Nonary Games' for the remastered version of 999 (999 was AMAZING on DS)
Not finished Zero Time Dilema yet though.
Yes. People are doing it to poison discussion and confuse people who don't know what is going on.
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