Yu Narukami
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Didn't really care about Akiyama's story in part 1. I think that Saejima's one is way more interesting right from the beginning. That scene in the restaurant was really dope.
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Yakuza Community Thread - FEEL THE HEAT!
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I have no clue on both but I read random posts on the internet he/she didn't notice any tearing while playing the demo at tgs or the club management game for Kiryu was introduced in the trailer at tgs sega booth.
I guess a port for nintendo/microsoft console is more likely to happen.
Shadowman16
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Cool stuff. Glad to hear about the performance stuff, I'm on a Pro anyway but I know they've been working to improve the Dragon engine since 6. No tearing on a base PS4 would be great news for people not wanting to upgrade to a Pro.
I think a PC port is more likely than an Xbox port at this point though. With how bad Xbox does in Japan, and with how the games sell outside of Asia I don't see any hope of them doing well on MS's console.
I think a PC port is more likely than an Xbox port at this point though. With how bad Xbox does in Japan, and with how the games sell outside of Asia I don't see any hope of them doing well on MS's console.
lucebuce12
Member
That's great to hear, personally I've been really let down by the difficulty side of things since Y0. Either the fight isn't actually tough or is arbitrarily difficult like the final Y4 boss. And I like you also thought Kiwami wasn't that hard either.
Hope Y6 provides a decent challenge
Son Of Sparda
Member
Like I've said in the OT before, until you unlock later upgrades, Kiwami is just frustrating on hard difficulty.That's great to hear, personally I've been really let down by the difficulty side of things since Y0. Either the fight isn't actually tough or is arbitrarily difficult like the final Y4 boss. And I like you also thought Kiwami wasn't that hard either.
Hope Y6 provides a decent challenge
lucebuce12
Member
I think you know what my answer is gonna be.
Hint: it's number 10 on my post of suggestions in the Kiwami OT.
Son Of Sparda
Member
Nah, it's just badly designed difficulty that is balanced around you having most of the upgrades, without taking into consideration that most people won't have said upgrades until way later in the game or even after getting to Premium Adventure mode.
lucebuce12
Member
Aww I was gonna continue this lame joke but you had to go and become all serious
I agree with you, especially on the bosses regaining health mechanic which is just stupid IMO and really feels like a crutch because they needed to pad out the boss fights early in the game.
It really did feel like the game wasn't balanced around Kiryu having multiple styles but rather they tried to balance Kiryu having multiple styles around the game if that makes any sense.
I agree with you, especially on the bosses regaining health mechanic which is just stupid IMO and really feels like a crutch because they needed to pad out the boss fights early in the game.
It really did feel like the game wasn't balanced around Kiryu having multiple styles but rather they tried to balance Kiryu having multiple styles around the game if that makes any sense.
Son Of Sparda
Member
Well, you are starting to sound like a crazy Souls fan, so someone has to make you stopAww I was gonna continue this lame joke but you had to go and become all serious
Yeah, it was clearly them trying to put styles into Yakuza 1, which wasn't a game that was designed around having different styles in it. Zero had the same kind of problem when it came to enemy AI and the fact that they hadn't changed them that much from earlier games to accommodate for Kiryu/Majima having different styles.
But the difficulty on Zero was a lot more on the easier side, so it wasn't that apparent since Zero didn't have the frustrating moments that Kiwami has.
Dragon Engine in true 4K
Maybe it'll not suffer the screen tearing we get on Amateur PS4s lol
eyeball_kid
Member
Well maybe I'm just a casual, but I found Zero on Hard to be just about a perfect difficulty for me. Challenging, but not usually frustrating. Kiwami on Hard was just terrible, but then on Normal it was incredibly easy all the way through. Only boss I really enjoyed there was the last one.
The bosses in Kiwami just weren't as fun period regardless of difficulty, but they would've been much better without the recharging health. It makes the focus of the fights only about the Climax heat moves.
I managed to find a sealed Japanese copy. It's on the way now.
Have you played Of the End/ Dead Souls?
Not yet! Pretty excited to get around to it though, if only because it's giving some more Majima and Ryuji Goda though. Will order soon, but probably won't get to it until a month or so to avoid Yakuza fatigue.
Also planning to order a copy of Ishin at some point, or might just get it digitally. I have the 200 page guide all printed out in a binder, juuuuust gotta hit the buy button on the game.
Wow that's a lot of ink 😂 . I speak Japanese and I still think it's too much. Very archaic Japanese. I've only done about a third of the story. I'll get back to it soon.
Binary Domain was really good when I played it years ago, it has nothing to do with Yakuza like at all, I started with 0 so if there's something I probably wouldn't know it.
Shadowman16
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Binary Domain is excellent. It was a refreshing TPS back on release as the robots and bosses are way more fun than most other enemies included in other games at the time. Blowing off robot limbs and having them change up their attacks based on which limbs they lost will always be awesome. Great cast of characters as well.
eyeball_kid
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I didn't enjoy the Binary Domain demo, but maybe the full game was good. Didn't it have excellent AI though? Wonder why that stuff hasn't really made it over to the Yakuza series.
Son Of Sparda
Member
Personally I found Zero's hard difficulty to be on the easy side, but that in no way lessened my enjoyment of the game. Whereas in Kiwami, like you said, the hard difficulty was just frustrating and not so fun.
I also agree with the bosses mostly being inferior compared to Zero. The recharging health really hurt their design and cheaply punished the players for not using the style that the game wanted them to use, during certain parts of each boss fight.
Absolutely. Binary Domain is an amazing shooter with some really interesting mechanics and a great cast of characters.
It's my most favorite cover based shooter game.
lucebuce12
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IrishNinja
Member
BD is so underrated, i need to do another playthrough sometime
lucebuce12
Member
Damn it, guess I'm redownloading Binary domain.
Young Magus
Junior Member
Is BD better than Vanquish?
Shadowman16
Member
Eh, I wouldn't go that far. Both are excellent but I probably preferred the mobility and action on Vanquish above BD. Much preferred the story ad characters from BD though. You really can't go wrong with either, pity we don't get more Japanese TPS games, they put a nice spin on the genre.
lucebuce12
Member
They're both fantastic games, and both have the common themes of being third person shooters where the tight AF gameplay is part of the main appeal.
But it's worth pointing out that both ultimately have different goals that they try to achieve outside of the main combat.
Basically, they're both great and I wouldn't really give either game the superior spot.
IrishNinja
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yeah, i recall them coming out relatively in the same time span? but they're not comparable games, really
BD is like....3rd person action with RPG like feelings to the dialogue & your choices, and how widely different things can go based on the trust you build with companions & such. it lends itself to multiple playthroughs.
Vanquish is a dope 3rd person action game too but it's platinum balls-to-the-wall madness for bosses & whatever is supposed to function as story, haha. it's a game that makes you respect sliding around.
BD is like....3rd person action with RPG like feelings to the dialogue & your choices, and how widely different things can go based on the trust you build with companions & such. it lends itself to multiple playthroughs.
Vanquish is a dope 3rd person action game too but it's platinum balls-to-the-wall madness for bosses & whatever is supposed to function as story, haha. it's a game that makes you respect sliding around.
lucebuce12
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CannonFodder52
Member
Kiryu is a god.
Booker Dewitt
Member
The localization in the Daddy Papa substory in Y5 is top notch.
Shanaynay
Member
S'always a game i skipped because it didn't looked interesting.
I guess i was badly mistaken. ;-;
Son Of Sparda
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LMAO.
davidwhangchoi
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hahaha
Wait you're playing 3 last? Lol interesting. I'm doing them in order. On 2 right now and goddamn is it hard getting used to a fixed camera.
I completely agree though. I did play Yakuza 1 on the PS2 back in the day, though. I never got very far and took it back to the rental placel. That was it.
On an unrelated note, I just discovered Pocket Circuit Racing is real wtf. I knew about Hot Wheels having a similar thing but I never imagined there being a collectible game where you can build cars with car parts and race them against each other.
Null Pointer
Member
:: group hug for the Binary Domain love ::
I'd say pretty good since there's like a YEAR delay with the localizations
TGS long trailers were showed in the latest sega live straming.
https://youtu.be/sdK1cJCANSc?t=59m41s
Kiwami story trailer 59:40~
Kiwami gameplay trailer 1:09:20~
RGG online trailer 1:18:00~
Hokuto ga Gotoku trailer 1:24:15~
Hokuto looks pretty fun.
https://youtu.be/sdK1cJCANSc?t=59m41s
Kiwami story trailer 59:40~
Kiwami gameplay trailer 1:09:20~
RGG online trailer 1:18:00~
Hokuto ga Gotoku trailer 1:24:15~
Hokuto looks pretty fun.
Billiard and bowling are missing in the gameplay trailer
Kiwami 2 looks much better than Yakuza 6. Can't wait to play both!TGS long trailers were showed in the latest sega live straming.
https://youtu.be/sdK1cJCANSc?t=59m41s
Kiwami story trailer 59:40~
Kiwami gameplay trailer 1:09:20~
RGG online trailer 1:18:00~
Hokuto ga Gotoku trailer 1:24:15~
Hokuto looks pretty fun.Billiard and bowling are missing in the gameplay trailer
CannonFodder52
Member
Check the monitor on the middle right. Kaz is being haunted.
FOTNS quality timestamp
FOTNS combat. People were complaining about the combat footage last week. I think the muted audio in that previous gameplay didn't help. This looks satisfying.
Also, if you haven't played Y2 and are at all sensitive to spoilers, be careful with the story trailer.
FOTNS quality timestamp
FOTNS combat. People were complaining about the combat footage last week. I think the muted audio in that previous gameplay didn't help. This looks satisfying.
Also, if you haven't played Y2 and are at all sensitive to spoilers, be careful with the story trailer.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
After finishing Kiwami, I popped out my old PS2 copy run it on PCSX2. Kiwami probably won't be getting a localized release for year(s).
Zero, Kiwami and 2, after this I think I'll round off the entire Yakuza series and play the PS3 games too. Haven't played those for years now.
I agree with this. Yakuza 6 is day one for sure but the trailers and everything we've seen about it doesn't look nearly as interesting as the Kiwami 2 content.
Zero, Kiwami and 2, after this I think I'll round off the entire Yakuza series and play the PS3 games too. Haven't played those for years now.
I agree with this. Yakuza 6 is day one for sure but the trailers and everything we've seen about it doesn't look nearly as interesting as the Kiwami 2 content.
matrix-cat
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I just started playing my imported copy of Yakuza 6 today, and I'm loving it so far. My Japanese isn't especially great, but with an online dictionary at hand I'm doing fine (and thank goodness the subtitles stay on screen when you pause the cutscenes ). The few Sub Stories I've found so far have been excellent (Kiryu vs. the evil AI smartphone assistant being the standout), and everything is obviously gorgeous in the Dragon Engine.
Character control is horrendous though. Pushing the analogue stick all the way forward makes you walk, and holding X makes you sprint and drains stamina; there's no in-between speed for fine control and you can't move the camera while you're moving at a decent pace because you don't have two right thumbs. I either have to claw the controller or just accept that I'm not going to be able to see where I'm going while I'm sprinting. Kiryu has one of those modern procedural animation walk cycles, too, so he takes time to start moving and doesn't stop when you let go of the stick, which literally lead me to walking off the roof of a building by accident (luckily this doesn't kill you, for some reason).
Combat is also back to the single style of old, too, which is disappointing after the glorious combat of 0. I guess 6 is a back-to-basics kind of thing, as all the work went into the new engine; it's still fun to beat up dudes, but I'll definitely miss Rush style.
Oh well, like I said, I'm still loving it. This is the first Yakuza game I've played in Japanese, so it'll probably take me a while to get through. I'm still not so great with some of the Yakuza slang, and Kansai accents throw me for a loop (and I swear Date's voice actor is actively trying to be as unintelligible as possible), but playing games has been a huge help in learning the language so far. I've managed to avoid spoilers for 6 until now, so I can't wait to see what happens.
). The few Sub Stories I've found so far have been excellent (Kiryu vs. the evil AI smartphone assistant being the standout), and everything is obviously gorgeous in the Dragon Engine.Character control is horrendous though. Pushing the analogue stick all the way forward makes you walk, and holding X makes you sprint and drains stamina; there's no in-between speed for fine control and you can't move the camera while you're moving at a decent pace because you don't have two right thumbs. I either have to claw the controller or just accept that I'm not going to be able to see where I'm going while I'm sprinting. Kiryu has one of those modern procedural animation walk cycles, too, so he takes time to start moving and doesn't stop when you let go of the stick, which literally lead me to walking off the roof of a building by accident (luckily this doesn't kill you, for some reason
).Combat is also back to the single style of old, too, which is disappointing after the glorious combat of 0. I guess 6 is a back-to-basics kind of thing, as all the work went into the new engine; it's still fun to beat up dudes, but I'll definitely miss Rush style.
Oh well, like I said, I'm still loving it. This is the first Yakuza game I've played in Japanese, so it'll probably take me a while to get through. I'm still not so great with some of the Yakuza slang, and Kansai accents throw me for a loop (and I swear Date's voice actor is actively trying to be as unintelligible as possible), but playing games has been a huge help in learning the language so far. I've managed to avoid spoilers for 6 until now, so I can't wait to see what happens.
Shadowman16
Member
TGS long trailers were showed in the latest sega live straming.
https://youtu.be/sdK1cJCANSc?t=59m41s
Kiwami story trailer 59:40~
Kiwami gameplay trailer 1:09:20~
RGG online trailer 1:18:00~
Hokuto ga Gotoku trailer 1:24:15~
Hokuto looks pretty fun.Billiard and bowling are missing in the gameplay trailer
Did they show off any Japanese gambling games (Koi Koi etc.) as I don't think I saw those in the trailer either? Pity about bowling, though hopefully that's not to mean its not in (I've always enjoyed it in the series), can't say I'd miss billiards all that much if its out, but for the sake of variety I hope its still here.
*edit* My mistake, Japanese style gambling is shown in the trailer, I just wasn't paying close enough attention.
Otherwise its looking brilliant, plenty of side stuff to do and it looks like thanks to the later games in the series (especially 0) the cabaret club management side stories will be far more fun to do. Loving the brief snippets of gameplay from some of the best set pieces in 2 as well, cannot wait to replay this game in the Dragon Engine.
For FOTNS, is it only games based on the series you can find in the wasteland? As the trailer showed an Outrun cab, so could we be getting a mix of Sega games in this one as well?
@ matrix-cat - make sure you unlock some of the better moves for Kiryu in 6 as soon as you can - stuff like the Tiger Drop, L1 counter move (sorta like Tanimura's counter system in 4) a heat move for convenience stores etc. can be unlocked and are brilliant fun to play around with. Also keep in mind the Tiger Drop and L1 counter moves have upgrades that drastically relaxes the timing on both, making them way easier to do. Lastly, don't make the same mistake I did - weapon counter heat moves (for knives, guns, hammers etc.) can only be pulled off when you are NOT holding down R1 to lock onto an enemy. I was trying to do them all game while never letting go of R1!
eyeball_kid
Member
I put Kiwami back in its case last night and went back to Zero to finish up the ton of stuff in Premium I hadn't done yet. It immediately felt so comfortable in a way that Kiwami never did. I'm not sure I can explain why. The cities (as characters) are maybe part of it, and the more fun atmosphere, and the diversity of content. It's so many things I guess.
One thing I realized is that the larger size of Zero's cities give the side stories breathing room, both in terms of placement in relation to each other and in terms of how the player stumbles upon them naturally. In Kiwami it almost felt like I was running into another side story every 10 feet; it felt a bit claustrophobic and sometimes distracting. Going back to Zero, I can really see more clearly how the original gameplay concepts, rudimentary as they were in 1, were refined in title after title to be something that feels really great.
One thing I realized is that the larger size of Zero's cities give the side stories breathing room, both in terms of placement in relation to each other and in terms of how the player stumbles upon them naturally. In Kiwami it almost felt like I was running into another side story every 10 feet; it felt a bit claustrophobic and sometimes distracting. Going back to Zero, I can really see more clearly how the original gameplay concepts, rudimentary as they were in 1, were refined in title after title to be something that feels really great.
The info we got so far, it sound like you can find multiple game titles and the consoles the games run on along with some arcade machines. You can bring them back to your hideout and add to your collections. I don't think we will get new titles aside the ones in zero & 6.
Shadowman16
Member
I'd always prefer more brand new content, but hey I'll take it because I love the concept. I look forward to amassing my virtual collection of retro games in FOTNS!
After rewatching the Kiwami 2 trailer a few times, I'm pretty certain the Majima side of things is what I'm most hyped for. Even if it turns out to be a fairly short chapter, I'm loving the usual production that goes into the cutscenes for it, plus its nice to get a cannon entry where you can play as the more unhinged version of Majima (his cutscenes and side content in Dead Souls were the highlight of the game for me).
Finished Yakuza 3 and so far I'd rate the Yakuza games 0 > 3 = 2 > 1.
I liked Mine and thought he was great. I wish he lived because he really could have used an extended 'How a healthy relationship works" speech from Kiryu.
The Okinawa section was a great addition. I loved all of Kiryu's interactions with the children and the Ryudo Family (I'll miss Rikiya). The game would have been better if we got to stay there because that shit with the CIA and Joji was bad.
The Okinawa section was a great addition. I loved all of Kiryu's interactions with the children and the Ryudo Family (I'll miss Rikiya). The game would have been better if we got to stay there because that shit with the CIA and Joji was bad.
I see you're a man of culture as well!
Shadowman16
Member
Great to see more Yakuza 3 love cropping up as more people play the game. It has its faults no doubt, but the more I revisit that game the more I love it. That end game... so darn good. Oh, and I also love the fact that
is brought back. Loved his fight in Yakuza 1 and love the fight here. Now Sega just have to do the right thing and make sure that remaster of 3 happens eventually, and release it in English so we can get a proper uncut version of the game in English finally.
Lau
If you have time and it's ok to go back to the game you finished. I recommend that you replay zero later. You must have missed a lot of great stuff and momemts in zero.
Mine got a very cool role in Ishin.