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Tomb Raider Definitive Edition - PlayStation 4 = ~60fps, Xbox One = ~30fps
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SniperHunter
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I want this so bad! but charging $60 for it is a crime!
Yea, his description doesn't line up with 60 fps average, but maybe its just the way he describe things.
From article:
Guess we shall find out when it releases.
TheAngryMonkey
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Yea, I played this at release on PC with a low to mid nvidia card. I started out on normal getting about 30fps in most areas. Shanty town it took a dive but still playable. Between game patches and driver updates the game eventually ran closer to 50+fps most of the time and hitting 60fps some of the time. This is a game that benefits from 60fps. The shaky camera that some people really disliked comes across much better and smoother at 60fps.
I'm having no issues with Splinter Cell on Wii U running at 30 so for some games I find it to be fine, but Tomb Raider plays much better at 60.
TheSinkingKnight
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I wonder what Tim Dog has to say about this.
Revolutionary
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Really? I do, and thats with an older i7 chip
Edit: and it crashes all the time? Sounds like your game is unpatched.
JordanN
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That would mean not being able to see the textures.
Man-is-Obsolete
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You guess? That should have been obvious around May of last year.
Then there's something seriously wrong with your PC.
Never quite understood this point.
Regardless of what you "are" you should always be looking for the biggest bang for your buck, and caring about this stuff isn't binary -- it isn't "either you care COMPLETELY and must buy dual titans, or you don't at all".
Tinfoil hat time!
I am still certain that the COD and AC4 1080p path was released after reviews on purpose so there was no discernible difference reviewers could talk about. I expect something similar hear if both games are locked 30 then mysteriously patched later to unlock frame rate. Because I am certain PS4 previews for both games mentioned the 1080p difference, but was mysteriously absent come review/day 1 time then patched later.
I am still certain that the COD and AC4 1080p path was released after reviews on purpose so there was no discernible difference reviewers could talk about. I expect something similar hear if both games are locked 30 then mysteriously patched later to unlock frame rate. Because I am certain PS4 previews for both games mentioned the 1080p difference, but was mysteriously absent come review/day 1 time then patched later.
$40 in a month, imo
Wow, I really did not expect a developer to give such a massive framerate advantage to the PS4 but I'm glad to see it. This is very responsible use of the hardware advantage in the PS4.
Can't be true, certainly not at 1080p. I get a locked 60fps without TressFX with my 7970.
Can't be true, certainly not at 1080p. I get a locked 60fps without TressFX with my 7970.
DirgeExtinction
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The Xbox One version has Kinect voice actions and gestures. The PS4 version has voice actions.
Well I hope so. There is nothing worse than a 60fps game that drops often. It's super noticeable and it's far more noticable than a 30fps going down to the 20's. At least to me anyway.
So these werent retail builds?
RedAssedApe
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to be fair. most people thought it would be 30 because tressfx murdered performance on pc even on the heftiest of systems.
the pc version crashes for you? odd ...make sure you don't have anything wrong with your system.
Scott Amos (Executive Producer) also confirmed it here: http://www.twitch.tv/gamesradar/b/497373767 @50:35
Average of 60FPS is very different than 60FPS, so are we to assume its 60 with a few small dips on PS4 and 30 with dips?
Average implies it stays around 60 most of the time.
Average of 60FPS is very different than 60FPS, so are we to assume its 60 with a few small dips on PS4 and 30 with dips?
Average implies it stays around 60 most of the time.
The power difference between the two consoles has always been too big to ignore.
Long before the console launched, it seemed clear that the Xbone would always have big compromises to try and match the PS4/PC versions of games. Either significantly dropping resolution, frame rate, AA, lighting, or a combination of them.
It will be interesting to see what gets the bigger reaction. Games that are 1080p/720p on PS4/Xbone, or games that are 60fps/30fps on them. Got test to see what is more noticeable and more important. Frame rate or resolution.
I'd personal prefer 720p/60 over 1080p/30, but then again, I'm not an Xbone owner, so it doesn't matter.
Long before the console launched, it seemed clear that the Xbone would always have big compromises to try and match the PS4/PC versions of games. Either significantly dropping resolution, frame rate, AA, lighting, or a combination of them.
It will be interesting to see what gets the bigger reaction. Games that are 1080p/720p on PS4/Xbone, or games that are 60fps/30fps on them. Got test to see what is more noticeable and more important. Frame rate or resolution.
I'd personal prefer 720p/60 over 1080p/30, but then again, I'm not an Xbone owner, so it doesn't matter.
Shanks D Zoro
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Sweet, I never bought the original version, but all the great praise means I am look forward to playing the definitive of the definitive edition on my PS4.
Can they really claim it to be the definitive version on the xbox if it can't do the same job as the PS4 version?
meanspartan
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RIGHT?!
Resolution doesn't matter guys, neither does framerate.
And since they don't I'll be taking the extra special edition NES version of Tomb Raider.
mullet2000
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That's fucking nuts. Probably says just as much about the state of Xbox's One dev tools as the console itself, but still. It looks really bad.
Trogdor1123
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1080p resoulution is a much more marketable feature than 60 fps to the mass market.
I personally would of preferred if they went to 900p and try to hit 60 fps that way. (I don't know if they could, though)
Demoskinos
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Huh, well that is interesting. I was sort of bummed hearing rumors of 30fps but these reports of 60fps for PS4 have me slightly more jazzed to buy the game next week.
Crystal Dynamics said both were 30 in this interview
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...chieved-profitability-by-the-end-of-last-year
They may have been misquoted or something.
Cheesecakebobby
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I have a PS4 but I'm still glad I picked this up for next to nothing as part of an Amazon Digital games sale and my laptop runs it just fine.
Also based on this information, it is still possible that it's more like 40 fps average for XB1 and 50fps for PS4, so why don't we wait for the DF analysis?
Also based on this information, it is still possible that it's more like 40 fps average for XB1 and 50fps for PS4, so why don't we wait for the DF analysis?
its not a matter of running better then ps4. it wont (or at least shouldnt for any conceivable reason). its that i have a hard time believing that the difference will consistently yield twice the framerate. a quickie port from the previous gen is just that, a quick port. i cant imagine they wanted to spend a huge amount of time in porting the game to each systems specific strengths. fact of the matter is, the ps4 should be easier to port over and get great results without much tuning. the x1 should be able to be closer to the ps4 version, but with much more effort put in.
again, i may be proven wrong, but i'm not ready to concede 30 vs 60 as the norm based on this example.
What really pisses me off about these comments is Penello asked if the community would apologize to him if the framerate difference is not more than a few single digits, and yet he has not had the self-respect to come here and apologize to us when the difference is demonstrably massively larger in a myriad of multiplatform titles
can't tell you how much this whole shit this year has soured me on the whole brand
IISANDERII
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Is that site overbaked right now? Tried clicking the link and got:
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Fatal error: Out of memory (allocated 15728640) (tried to allocate 491520 bytes) in /home/rocketch/public_html/wp-includes/script-loader.php on line 252
Speedy Blue Dude
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Didn't the Executive Producer for Tomb Raider, Scot Amos, recently confirm it was 1080p, 30 frames on both consoles?
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Well... guess this is STILL running at 30 FPS on both.
So he wouldn't exactly be lying! That powergap, lol.
Meh. Don't really care myself. Still buying this on my Xbox One over my PS4, just for the slightly better Voice Commands and the Achievements.
EDIT: Clarifying a bit on why I'm still getting it on Xbox One:
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Well... guess this is STILL running at 30 FPS on both.
So he wouldn't exactly be lying! That powergap, lol.Meh. Don't really care myself. Still buying this on my Xbox One over my PS4, just for the slightly better Voice Commands and the Achievements.
EDIT: Clarifying a bit on why I'm still getting it on Xbox One:
RealityPales
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I'm right there with you.
DirgeExtinction
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Those that have played it have not said it reached that low.
Didn't the Executive Producer for Tomb Raider, Scot Amos, recently confirm it was 1080p, 30 frames on both consoles?
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Well... guess this is STILL running at 30 FPS on both.
Meh. Don't really care myself. Still buying this on my Xbox One over my PS4, just for the slightly better Voice Commands and the Achievements.
Scot Amos himself said in the stream that the 30fps was a misquote. Notice in the link you posted nowhere is 30fps in quotation marks.
So no, the PS4 version is still reaching 60fps while the Xbox One version isn't.
As for voice commands, no one knows if Kinect voice commands are better or not.
gigantor21
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The producer said on Twitch that it was a misquote.
BruiserBear
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My favorite thing about this news is going to be Polygon being forced to give the XB1 version a lower score.
iamvin22
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RedAssedApe
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Didn't the Executive Producer for Tomb Raider, Scot Amos, recently confirm it was 1080p, 30 frames on both consoles?
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Well... guess this is STILL running at 30 FPS on both.
Meh. Don't really care myself. Still buying this on my Xbox One over my PS4, just for the slightly better Voice Commands and the Achievements.
Speedy Blue Dude
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Man-is-Obsolete
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Way to read the OP. Not once does he say it moves between 30 and 60 FPS. Instead he said at stays steady at seemingly 60 with some noticeable drops. I got news for you "locked" 30 FPS games can have drops as well.
yes.
Mass Effect
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Wouldn't the Xbone be Vegeta though? If anything, the Wii U would be Goten.
What more proof do you need? Maybe not necessarily framerate differences, but resolution differences too? CoD, BF, AC, and now this.
This is the new normal.
That is why I said I did not see this coming. I'm still kind of skeptical about how well it sticks to 60.
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