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DOTA 2 The International 2017 (Aug 7-12) Game of throwns - you win or you pld
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Dreams-Visions
Member
I'll certainly rewatch this TI
they were plenty of matches worth rewatching several times.
the GF matches weren't really among them but that's just how it goes sometimes. Just about all of Liquid's other series' are worth downloading.
And if you're interested in learning/getting better, all of them including (maybe especially) the GF matches are mandatory. Shit was clinical.
shira
Member
Ksan is an OG dotagaf
I'll rewatch the GF games also, speaking as a TL fan and a fan of clinical, but tense games. Not like the GF one year where it was lopsided, short deathpush game one after another.
i think they'll nerf both for sure
also darkness vision reduction and or duration needs nerfing
caustic slight nerf maybe
Nyx needs some cooldown nerfs imo
Sven gods strenght toned down a little
Bristle passive nerf
NP treant nerf
Kotl aghs toned down a little
Not sure what difference this makes, don't really have time for people who are so arrogant they discard other people's opinions they disagree with.
Hydranockz
Member
Everything after TL leaving the main stage felt so unnecessary. I thought they were killing time to some presentation or interview or something. Instead it just fizzled out with them getting on a limo. Like, if that's all you're going to show, don't show it.
3-0 is great for TL and holy crap, I am so happy for them. I don't play but watched every single main stage series except for a particularly late night one. If I had just tuned in for the last series, the grand finals, I would have been underwhelmed for sure. The real story that made this TI as a whole so great was actually seeing them climb all the way back along the LB.
Feels like the TL LFY game was the real test for Liquid and then the Newbee series was them showcasing all they had learned from the matches prior. I'm glad I could commit to watching as many matches as I had.
Day9 was a good host. As much as I love him and his YT series with Purge, I did feel like he was a few months too early out of the dota incubation pod so to speak. This time next year, should it still be him, we might just have a 3.5k mmr Day9 at the helm!
But seriously, sort out the post-trophy footage. Woof. Even that compilation at the end was awful!
3-0 is great for TL and holy crap, I am so happy for them. I don't play but watched every single main stage series except for a particularly late night one. If I had just tuned in for the last series, the grand finals, I would have been underwhelmed for sure. The real story that made this TI as a whole so great was actually seeing them climb all the way back along the LB.
Feels like the TL LFY game was the real test for Liquid and then the Newbee series was them showcasing all they had learned from the matches prior. I'm glad I could commit to watching as many matches as I had.
Day9 was a good host. As much as I love him and his YT series with Purge, I did feel like he was a few months too early out of the dota incubation pod so to speak. This time next year, should it still be him, we might just have a 3.5k mmr Day9 at the helm!
But seriously, sort out the post-trophy footage. Woof. Even that compilation at the end was awful!
Sigismundo
Member
Naah, not really 😊 Watched at least 100x more dotes more than u
shira
Member
Yeah I think something might get done about that.
Of course everyone expects the top P/B heroes to get hit with the nerf bat. I am curious what will happen to Io in particular. He was consistently banned in the main event and I don't think he got picked once. I didn't get to watch as much of the group stages as I would have liked because work got crazy sometimes during it.
As for the unpicked heroes, I expect Bane to get something. Spectre may not need much if anything if the other nerf/changes make her ult timings viable.
Sieging high ground needs buffs not nerfs IMO
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
How long did it take to get a patch after ti6?
Sieging high ground is different from cutting off pincer attack and jungle opportunity. Taking a single T3 and being able to contain the other team to their base leads to short one sided games.
monkey king came in December.
Isn't that just because Chinese teams are notoriously uncomfortable with the hero?
sleverfunk
Member
Can't to see the roster shuffles and drama!
rakkadakka
Member
Add RTZ to that list.
shira
Member
Og.rtz
Hamburg Major is Oct 29th so things need to move fast
Damn need to make a new calendar
Hamburg Major is Oct 29th so things need to move fast
JawesomeJaw
Member
There was Underlord and a numbers tweak before right? That was relatively shortly after with 7.00 coming near the tail end of the year.
I didn't know that, but that would make sense. If that's the case then I guess he'll get left alone.
I'm not surprised, if they had it, they would have shown it with the trailer the other night. I think they either just wanted to say "Hey, we're working on this but it isn't ready to show yet." or they just didn't want to dilute from TI and just acknowledge that it exists.
Phoenix RISING
Banned
So every hero was picked in TI except Techies? Cool.
Dreams-Visions
Member
I thought there were 5 or so not picked?
Techies, Spectre, and a couple others showed up on a splash today.
Tiny was one, was that TI or just the main event?
I think it was Skeleton King, Spectre, Tony, Bane and Techies that was not picked from the pool list.
SixMachine
Member
Ummm this leads me to wikipedia about this
Itasha
An itasha in Xiamen, China featuring Nia from Gurren Lagann on the hood
An itasha in Tokyo, Japan featuring Sakura from Cardcaptor Sakura on the body
Itasha (痛車, literally "painful car") is a Japanese term for a fashion of individuals decorating the bodies of their cars with fictional characters of anime, manga, or video games (especially bishōjo games or eroge). These characters are predominantly "cute" females. The decorations usually involve paint schemes and stickers. Automobiles are called itasha, while similar motorcycles and bicycles are called itansha (痛単車and itachari (痛チャリ
The cars are seen prominently in places such as Akihabara (Tokyo), Nipponbashi (Osaka), or Ōsu (Nagoya).
Don't you want your car to be moe?
Dreams-Visions
Member
maybe it was a main event slide. I'm not sure. But yea, Tiny, Spectre, Techies and a couple others were pictured.
yea that was it.
Just got back to my room from the arena.
Yeah, worst finals just edging out TI4, but props to Liquid. They put up hard today. I still leave the tourney more impressed by LFY and I think were it to be simulated with these teams a 100 times over, they'd be the favorite more often than not, but Liquid played well when it counted and no one can say they didn't deserve it.
Re:update timing- the ingame hero models were displayed on stage during the preview in what looked like fairly finished forms. We also have ability strings for Sylph in prior patches, so I don't think it's that far away. Definitely would put it this year over 2018.
I wish the crimson witness items had the first blood and teams recorded on it like the old ones. I got a treasure for the very last first blood of the tourney- game 3 of the grand finals today.
I don't think this being the worst finals is going to be that controversial an opinion. There's only 7 of them, and TI4 is really the only comparable one. I haven't watched a ton of dota, but I've seen every international, including 3 in person, and every game of this tourney including groups and I'd also put it there.
Yeah, worst finals just edging out TI4, but props to Liquid. They put up hard today. I still leave the tourney more impressed by LFY and I think were it to be simulated with these teams a 100 times over, they'd be the favorite more often than not, but Liquid played well when it counted and no one can say they didn't deserve it.
Re:update timing- the ingame hero models were displayed on stage during the preview in what looked like fairly finished forms. We also have ability strings for Sylph in prior patches, so I don't think it's that far away. Definitely would put it this year over 2018.
I wish the crimson witness items had the first blood and teams recorded on it like the old ones. I got a treasure for the very last first blood of the tourney- game 3 of the grand finals today.
I don't think this being the worst finals is going to be that controversial an opinion. There's only 7 of them, and TI4 is really the only comparable one. I haven't watched a ton of dota, but I've seen every international, including 3 in person, and every game of this tourney including groups and I'd also put it there.
SixMachine
Member
Well if I was team Liquid, I guess I would have some extra money to spend to moe-ify maybe a car or 100, give or take.
balladofwindfishes
Member
What poor team grabbed Terrorblade?
Also it's a sad day to see Bane never picked. He used to be a fantastic hero.
Omega Kirby
Member
Ti winners boy, Terrorbalde is good accept it
Well, Techies is not in CM right now.
I honestly don't know why really, he doesn't seem incredibly broken. If anything hes kind of weak right now, isn't he?
shira
Member
Dreams-Visions
Member
dunno about all that, but they made him work once. he was pretty shit all tourney. a random win (that really was a team win rather than an out of control TB) doesn't really change that.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Your TI winners won with it
Haha, that's pretty great.
I have no idea if he was actually good or not, just figured he was bad because he's always been a bad hero and IceFrog seems unable to balance him without making him ridiculous and then instantly nuking him a month later.