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NieR: Automata |OT| "I wouldn't expect too much from this game if I were you."
- Thread starter BRSxIgnition
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Yea but only 2B really made any attempt to conform. Maybe Operator 21O as well. Other than that, I never got the impression that the rest of the cast were "hindering their personalities".
As for them saying that kind of stuff towards the machines, well that's kind of the story starts, especially in 9S' case, with them believing themselves to be superior to the machines. Also I'm pretty sure the machines were not always capable of such complex thought, so stuff like Pascal and such was fairly new to them and took them awhile to adjust.
Then later on with 9S in Route C after 2B dies, you'd think he'd finally get it, but he's so consumed in rage that he's back to being discriminatory against machines again, only being non-murderous towards Pascal I think. It's only with Ending D where he finally chills the fuck out again lmao
As for them saying that kind of stuff towards the machines, well that's kind of the story starts, especially in 9S' case, with them believing themselves to be superior to the machines. Also I'm pretty sure the machines were not always capable of such complex thought, so stuff like Pascal and such was fairly new to them and took them awhile to adjust.
Then later on with 9S in Route C after 2B dies, you'd think he'd finally get it, but he's so consumed in rage that he's back to being discriminatory against machines again, only being non-murderous towards Pascal I think. It's only with Ending D where he finally chills the fuck out again lmao
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I hope it wasn't me. Read over what I posted and I don't see anything spoilery.
Well, 2B is a main character that you play half the game as, and 9S was pretty deep into the whole "machines can't have emotions/families" that he kept bringing up every time he encountered it, and then he goes crazy in Route C. So, yeah, for like 75% of the game he's either drinking Yorha koolaid or crazy with anger, which do hinder his personality. Tbh, I'm not sure where we're going here. I do understand the androids here have emotions. Are we talking about how they're better characters than those from Nier Gestalt?
Got a little confused myself, which is why I addressed why only 2B really does the whole "No emotions" thing. But after reading over your post again, it seemed like your issue was actually them saying that the machines, not androids, have
no emotions, so I then adjusted my response accordingly to say why I felt like kept acting like that. I don't care either way as to which characters are better from the two games lol
no emotions, so I then adjusted my response accordingly to say why I felt like kept acting like that. I don't care either way as to which characters are better from the two games lol
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Nah, i think we're just talking reasons at this point, but you pretty much got it.
Lol, this is why I don't like when people talk in the OT for too long, things inevitably get messy if someone is not careful.
Oh, I see. Yeah, I suppose if they were used to seeing machines without emotions, they might find it hard to accept. but there were so many examples in front of them, and they themselves are examples of AI having emotions, so I would have thought they'd catch on quicker. But for a large portion of the game, they kept refusing it and in the end they just sort of went with it instead of accepting it. With Ending D, 9S seemed to have finally accepted it though.
She's need to holding up the hp sp board like the persona cast and Antiwhippy's avatar.
Cannot for the life of me figure out how to make this picture transparent for my avatar
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Cannot for the life of me figure out how to make this picture transparent for my avatar, always shows up in a white box
You need to resize it to 100x120.
Yeah i think i'm done with this fucking game if they don't fix the PC version.
I enjoyed the game but crashing all the fucking time is not fun, especially after a boss fight or huge battle WITHOUT ANY FUCKING AUTO SAVE WTF why does this game not auto save??
Fix your shit ffs, i'm sick of wasting my money on half-assed ports.
I enjoyed the game but crashing all the fucking time is not fun, especially after a boss fight or huge battle WITHOUT ANY FUCKING AUTO SAVE WTF why does this game not auto save??
Fix your shit ffs, i'm sick of wasting my money on half-assed ports.
The reason you have to go through that everytime is because there is no savefile to load to begin with. The game doesn't autosave.
Once you unlocked the ability of saving, you get automatically respawned at a savepoint everytime you die.
If you strugglle, lower the difficulty for the time being. You won't lose out on anything.
im 4 hours in, i have 2 save files, but i cant quick load them.
Isaac Otherworld
Member
I have to stay, the super difficult challenges in the DLC are super satisfying. Getting the Destroyer Outfit greatly underleveled was a super satisfying challenge. And while I haven't beaten the super difficult challenge yet or bosses, my few attempts have gotten me really excited. NieR's balance and difficulty are the game's biggest weakness in my opinion and it's nice great to have some content that's really built for a real challenge.
Errrrrr. I'm trying to complete the Wandering Couple and it seems the quest is at a dead end? The map says they're in the Flooded City, but once I try to go towards the marker, I get the area introduction flyby scene, and the quest is deactivated after that?
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Charlouie Jonesman
Banned
Kinda, but not anymore, really.
The cutoff point for most quests is only after the Flooded City events, but they since patched it so that this particular quest becomes inactive as soon as you even get the mission to head to the Flooded City.
The reason is that the wandering couple would've asked you to donate a large amount of money, and the quest still wouldn't be over at that point. Now here's what happened to most people before the patch:
- Get the Flooded City mission
- Meet the wandering couple there and give them money
- Do the Flooded City mission
- Congratulation, the Wandering Couples quest failed, you spend 50,000G for nothing.
Basically, just do it before you're told to visit the place during the main story. You can still do it during Route B, but you'll have to start the quest from the beginning.
Remembrance
Member
The quest should be there as long as you haven't advanced the story. This is how it goes:
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Arrive at the Flooded City for the first time
Talk to them, give them money
Leave the Flooded City (do not advance the story), quest marker appears in Flooded City again
Go back to the Flooded City and talk to the guy again
Quest marker moves somewhere else
MissDeviling
Member
Please tell me there are less of these goddamn flight sections in C. I was so done with them in Route B.
Maybe...
Yep, agreed. This DLC also made me realize the amount of depth that this game has.
In 9S Special Trial, you will get to control a machine of your choice. Each one of them feels like a new character with its own movesets! They even have some advanced gameplay techniques that will help you to last longer. For example, evading an upcoming attack just before it hits will reduce the damage by 90%! Or you can connect multiple attacks by Evade Cancelling at the right time! Things like this made me really appreciate playing as 9S even more! And seeing the results in a very challenging mode is pretty nice!
Same thing with the Flooded City Special Trial, all enemies are at LV130 at least! At first glance, this seems like an impossible challenge. But after equipping the right chips + POD programs, the challenge becomes more manageable. Timing attacking/dodging becomes very important to win here. Try mashing the attack button, and you will be toasted. Winning this challenge alone is so satisfying -- even though the reward is pretty underwhelming
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
Only one thing in the whole game is permanently missable, and it's like 40 hours away from you.
RubberLuffy
Banned
Nothing outside of an optional ending is missable
Remembrance
Member
Any quest doable in route A is doable in route B. It's just that any quest you're partway through will reset (except the investment one).
Eh, I thought the game was like 20 hours long.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
It can be if you ignore the sidequests and mainline.
I ended doing 33 hours doing a decent bit of sidequests but definitely not all.
I ended doing 33 hours doing a decent bit of sidequests but definitely not all.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
Depending on who you ask, the game is somewhere between 10 and 50 hours long.
Point is, it's not something you need to worry about right now.Took me 55 hours to do everything.Took me 80 hours so I guess it depends on how slow you play these games
25 hours for the main story with most side quests.
Around 70 percentage of route A and that's about my play time for route A.
Got another question for you guys. Hope it's not a bother! I'm currently working through the route for Ending C and (NieR1 spoilers):
Thanks!
I want to know, in as vague of terms as possible, if I need to do all my sidequests, arenas, farming, index completion,
etc. before any sort of massive undoing like Ending D of NieR. I just wanna know if I'll ever reach a point where I can't collect more stuff.
etc. before any sort of massive undoing like Ending D of NieR. I just wanna know if I'll ever reach a point where I can't collect more stuff.
Thanks!
dreamer3kx
Member
Just got up to here myself, 12 hours, doing some side stuff also.
Weapon collection / upgrade percentages has no effect on the main story, just the availability of the superboss sidequest.
There is an option to
delete your save
Yes and it's worth it.
Remembrance
Member
Once you beat the secret boss you will understand why you have to do that.
Charlouie Jonesman
Banned
That's not entirely true. Jackass's Research and Operator 6O's flower quest are exclusive to Route A. I don't know if there are more.
Just a sidequest that requires 95% unit data.
Remembrance
Member
The thing is, don't even try maxing out all the weapons until you finish route C. Only then will you be able to get meteorites freely, and all weapon upgrade materials will become buyable.