Baroquemantic
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To be fair, post Scorpio Xboxes supporting past Xbox games has nothing to do with play anywhere. That's just BC.
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Middle-earth: Shadow of War is Play Anywhere (XB1/Win10)
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FacelessSamurai
..but cry so much I wish I had some
Can you give us a link to where it is mentionned microsoft will pay everyone making games Play Anywhere? Is really like to see it.
Didn't it come out that people who buy XPA games tend to play more than other users? Which means they are in the game longer and more likely to buy microtransactions/dlc. It makes sense for 3rd parties to support this if that's true and MS wouldn't have to "pay" them as you and others claim they do.
Windows 7 is in the System Requirements, I seriously doubt it.
#sorrynotsorry
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I think publishers are making financial decisions that benefit them. Someone who might have bought physical or waited until a sale is now going to buy digital because of this. There's value there to the publisher. MS just makes it extremely easy to do the port and ensure it will run forwards on future platforms which means you just got a next gen port for free. It's a great deal and it's obvious why a publisher would want to do it.
Is MS paying for it? Maybe. Not in cash certainly but they might do some co-marketing.
It could be neither. It could be a quid pro quo relationship, with Microsoft advertising for them in Xbox ads, prime placement in the Xbox store, reduced % cut taken by Microsoft, extra support for the game, etc. Point is, I don't know at all so I won't guess. You don't know either.
Maintenance
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Funny since the saltiest post is yours.
That's like asking how many people use SteamPlay extensively. It's probably not a sizeable amount, but it certainly is valuable for whenever someone decides to use multiple systems or even switch to a different system entirely - a good reason to stick with those ecosystem. Perpetuity is standard for most things, consoles should be no different (and particularly so on a system that essentially is using the same OS)
SneakersSO
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Nope, nor did I imply that. First party publishers are always offering kickbacks to pubs/devs on things that are coming out of their pocket.
MilkyJoe
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That's what makes me think it's done without changing hands. How dedicated do you have to be to play the same game on two platforms? The type that might indulge in a little microtransactionism?...
Iced_Eagle
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Very nice. I've used PlayAnywhere with a few games. Glad to see third party support grow.
Wasn't there like Steam Big Picture for that? Wouldn't that be better in terms of quality?
4K/Hi-Res Patch? Will probably include Shadow of Mordor as a tie in as well. Will probably get the PS4 Pro treatment plus any other benefits.
LordRaptor
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You'll find out if RE7 paid off when you find out whats the deal with the next Capcom release. This says literally nothing about how RE7 went.
dragonelite
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MS could give them a bigger share I know they did this on Windows phone. Once your app revenue went up they decreased their share to like 20% from the original 30% share.
Jaguar Victory
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Should be interesting to see this battle between retail and digital going forward.
Probably not much if so. Helps force people to go digital and kills the disc reselling of their games.
Not that dedicated. Saves sync between both constantly. Sometimes I want to play at my desk in ultra wide. Other times the lady is on my computer so I go to the living room.
I guarantee there isn't a single big publisher in the world that will go all the way to make a cross-buy play anywhere title without being paid for it.
All those count as getting paid.
The only salt is coming from you.
LordRaptor
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WB is the last big AAA third party who don't already have their own PC storefront to do a test release with Play Anywhere, right?
amdb00mer
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A lot of accusations of MS paying for the PA feature. Where is your proof? So many haters with accusations. Maybe since X1 and Win10 are built off the same OS it is easy to release for both with little to no extra cost?? Also, they mention Scorpio. Means the game will have 4k assets. Also, this news does not prevent it from coming to Steam and Origin.
All those count as guessing.
So literally every working relationship counts as "getting paid"?
Microsoft can afford it because they make more margin on digital games than physical.
Different % taken on the store if they offer it as Play Anywhere? Or something like that?
Marketing, prime placement in XBL, more cut on purchases, are all financial investments.
Well yeah, nobody is doing this for free.
This is not how it works. The game is also getting a Steam release that runs on Windows 7 just fine, which means the "no extra cost for the port" is complete bullshit.
LordRaptor
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A Play Anywhere title ensures that each sale is a permanent one off with no possibility of any future double dipping (unless the W10 appstore gets nuked).
It seems reasonably likely that there is some current financial incentive to giving up future long tail sales.
funkystudent
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Great value ad for Xbox people but I wonder what PC gamer is going "yeah. Ill totally put up with the Windows Store so I can also play this on a Xbox"
I seriously do hope MS gets the store in order one day. At least they are going out making deals with 3rd parties. Thats a good step and great they are keeping the push going.
I seriously do hope MS gets the store in order one day. At least they are going out making deals with 3rd parties. Thats a good step and great they are keeping the push going.
The appeal is so incredibly obvious that I don't even believe you.
I can play Gears on my PC while my gf plays on the Xbox, and i only had to get 1 copy of the game.
While I'd consider Square-Enix and Namco to be just as AAA as Capcom, Activision also hasn't; COD wasn't PA.
"I don't get the appeal" = it doesn't appeal to me personally
I mean, if you're talking Scorpio...I'm not sure just how inferior it'll actually be. PC will always make things pop more, but I'm p sure it'll hold it's own just fine. As to the appeal...it's kinda just there. When you wanna game on one for a variety of reasons, it picks up right where you left off. My PC still smokes my consoles and I game on console more often nowadays. Different strokes. It's still a nice, hassle free incentive.
yes that is why I said I don't get the appeal, I didn't say there is no appeal for anyone, literally read the last line of my post.
There are various agreements that can be made. Certainly what you suggested is one of them.
It's a smart deal for publishers to take, and for MS to offer.
As I said earlier it came out awhile go that people who buy and use Play Anywhere are playing games longer than other users. That increases the likely hood of future DLC sales which is a bonus to devs/publishers.
Sure MS is most likely cutting deals in the sense of marketing, page placement, etc. but every hardware holder does that.
maybe explain why it appeals to you instead of being so passive aggressive
It was pretty much common sense, but good to have the "mystery" of pubs giving away copies of their big new games on day one solved.
that is a good reason, I can understand the appeal of that
LukasTaves
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Not quite, I mean the game acknowledging it's running on a beefier console and adapting, because the game was already made with that in mind.
Unlike non uwp games running on Scorpio for instance, where they will just run at maximum target frame rate and resolution, but no further improvements.
But publishers offer crossbuy within ecosystems all the time. Steam (Windows/Mac/Linux), iOS (iPhone/iPad), PlayStation (PS1 games. PSP to Vita, etc), Android. Hell, it's even been the case on Windows up to now with Windows Phone and Windows 8/10. The Xbox console was the outlier.
For the same reason that games which are cross-buy between PS4/Vita appeal to me. Buying a game once and having options as to where to play it are appealing to me (and I would assume almost everyone who has the option).
Also, not every game will require a beefy gaming PC rig so in some instances the Xbox version is the superior version while the PC will be used on a laptop "on the go".
LordRaptor
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Square and Activision both have their own online storefronts (same as Paradox and Take 2), but you're right about Namco.
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