FrankCanada97
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Gelael and Kyvat with Honda power will propel Toro Rosso into last place in the Constructors' championship.
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Formula 1 2017 Season |OT2| A Dutch Horror Story - Sundays on Sky
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Gelael and Kyvat with Honda power will propel Toro Rosso into last place in the Constructors' championship.
Figured as much. I was just trying to recall any RB understudy drivers that had gotten an odd FP run in the past.
Time to bring back Scott Speed and Tonio Luizzi.
Fox Mulder
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They're looking fucked really unless Honda are amazing going into 2019. Ricciardo is up after 2018 and Renault is dumping them. They let Sainz go to Renault. Verstappen won't stick around in a shit car. Their young driver program is dry after pulling Gasly up. The new engine rules are still a few years off.
Maybe Honda will be amazing in 2019 and Kvyat went to train with monks on a mountain to gain WDC form.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-begins-talks-to-hold-dutch-street-race-963828/
I don't see this working at all in Amsterdam. Maybe Rotterdam, but even that's gonna be a huge hassle.
I don't see this working at all in Amsterdam. Maybe Rotterdam, but even that's gonna be a huge hassle.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
Oh please. They're testing the waters.
Lets get ready for Ruuummmmbbbbllllleeeeee strips
Sainz is on loan for a year. They could easily put him in at RBR in 2019.
They should do it in Roermond. Great city, very accommodating to initiatives like this. Essentially Max's hometown and already gets close to 7 million visitors every year from all over the world (mainly Germany and China) at its outlet center.
It only makes sense.
Development
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In Amsterdam would be cool! I can go to the GP on my bike.
They have to build a LOT of stands because it will attract lots op people.
They have to build a LOT of stands because it will attract lots op people.
DHC-Shannow
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Apparently Liberty are much more keen on street circuits rather than organisers having to build circuits that struggle to survive in places that don't have the motorsport history (like india for example). You also have the travel infrastructure to get to the track and a larger potential audience (which Malaysia suffered from).
F1 at zolder. Lol, good luck with that. (I know you meant it a a joke but stillIt would be better if they introduced an F1 race in Zolder and rebranded it as a Dutch one since it's close to the border anyway.
)JadedWriter
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Does this mean Mercedes can't test their new engine in a van this time?
Yeah it's gonna be a hard sell that they can assure budget limit enforcements. How do you deal with those separate companies that are created for the technology side? You can't exactly make them stop researching/producing technology and "selling" the results to the racing team. Or at least it'd be really fucking difficult to get all teams to agree to that.
Looks good to me. Engines become standardised in most parts, so it will be cheaper to develop and should allow for more manufacturers to step in.
Dissolving the strategy group in favor of Brawn's own team is definitely better, less bureaucracy and no hidden agenda's for any of its members.
Budget cap is great news, and glad they're starting so soon.
Dissolving the strategy group in favor of Brawn's own team is definitely better, less bureaucracy and no hidden agenda's for any of its members.
Budget cap is great news, and glad they're starting so soon.
F1 esports are live, with Davide on commentary: https://www.facebook.com/Formula1/videos/907399432750373/
It is pretty good.
It is pretty good.
I like Valsecchi, but I think I'd prefer Nicholls and Franchitti who do Formula-E together.
FrankCanada97
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I like Franchitti because anytime he makes a vague reference to something that happened in his career, I immediately know what he's talking about and it makes the commentary that much funnier.
Paraphrased example:
After watching the Mahindra teammates crash at Mexico:
Nicholls: "Have you ever crashed into a teammate before?"
Franchitti: "Yeah... (beat) Wasn't my fault though."
Yeah, he's had a much richer career than Valsecchi. Shame it got cut short.
Teams bitched that they'd have to spend money, so it didn't happen. It is more likely now that brawn will just be telling them what's what rather than asking permission.
Ha, looks like it.
I thought they were going to scrap the MGU-H to make the power unit cheaper and less significantly less complex. Maybe it will become a spec part? I don't think Mercedes would like that though.
But as long as they make the power units cheaper for the teams, they make the performance between the manufacturers equal and it's enough to bring new manufacturers into the sport.
I don't care what kind of power unit they run.
What is more important is the implementation of a budget cap allowing for a more competitive grid and cleaning up the aero to make it possible for cars to follow and race each other.
You're absolutely right. The casual nature of their commentating never ceased to amuse.
JadedWriter
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I'm still trying to figure out how Ferrari won Monza on the one year anniversary of Enzo's death.
Norwegian Rudo
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Thank you sir.
scorcher59
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There are going to be massive meltdowns if the don't go back to 6L V12s HA!
JadedWriter
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Isn't this exactly what Ferrari wants? Wouldn't they still find a way to fuck it up?
Haven't done any research on this series but i presume the performance of the cars are normalised?
Mohonky
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I dont know why people think going to this engine spec or changing another component is going to decrease engine costs. The manufacturers that have the money are going to spend it no matter what to find any advantage in any component they can. Short of producing nothing but a full spec engine engine from one supplier, the manufacturers are always going to be throwing money to find any advabtage they can.
And I hate the idea of spec anything. Its Formula 1. Some of the greatest innovations have come from the teams finding new and creative ways of making a car go faster, some from spending a boat load of money in R&D and some nust fucking stumbled upon something by sheer ass.
And I hate the idea of spec anything. Its Formula 1. Some of the greatest innovations have come from the teams finding new and creative ways of making a car go faster, some from spending a boat load of money in R&D and some nust fucking stumbled upon something by sheer ass.
Jezbollah
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A lot of F1 is already Spec stuff. It's the way to go if you have a disparity between revenue and smaller teams with less resources.
Any stats on how much of an F1 car is spec, out of interest?
Jezbollah
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I'm trying to find out more, but I know the electronics/ecu (provided by McLaren Technologies) and the sidepods (designed by Red Bull)
Because there is actually a cap on how much money you can spend until it stops benefitting enhancement of the component. If you could just spend twice as much and automagically get a twice as good engine then yes, you'd have a point.
By going spec they are constricting places where you can develop. And by doing that you lower costs across the board, making it easier for others to be competitive because the cost cap is lowered.