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Digital Homicide is seeking Legal Action aganist Valve
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capitalCORN
Member
Considering the amount of sheer amount of victims to such things on the internet without recourse, why should they get the benefit?
Soodanim
Gold Member
While I agree, if it's true that there are users that have been flagged on multiple occasions and nothing has been done then thats... Actually, that's unsurprising from Valve.
eot
Banned
Telling someone to grow a thick skin when their family members get death threats is a shit response. I know that if that shit started showing up in the mail my parents would freak out. DH being complete idiots aside, they do have a point about Steam's moderation and lack of investment in customer support in general. It's a shame these guys are the ones making that argument since it will be overshadowed by everything else.
Sending death threats to devs or anyone else is no good i agree on that but DH did more harm than good, they even threatened Jim Sterling showed stuff like where his house was and other stuff.
But if you can't take criticism as in feedback or just calling you out for what it is by scamming people on steam be it from steam users or even a journalist like jim than you are to over sensitive about everything about every little damn line that comes across that is criticism. In the end they still play the victim and blaming everyone around them but not them self instead thinking about moving on and letting it go they drag them self even further down the hole.
Im sure this has been linked many times but for the people who haven't listened to Digital Homicide talking with Jim Sterling.... it's actually insane how completely stupid this guy is
like holy shit I'm an hour in and everything he says is just completely wrong. he has no grasp on reality at all.
like holy shit I'm an hour in and everything he says is just completely wrong. he has no grasp on reality at all.
Noisepurge
Member
But a lawsuit is a silly first step? Just report them to the police if you are actually worried.
ElRenoRaven
Member
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Called that shit. These clowns are obvious. Can't wait for the Neogaf Lawsuit they file against us for bad mouthing them. lol
capitalCORN
Member
The only way up, is down.
Theanine3D
Member
They should have just put their games on itch.io instead and called it a day.
But no, now they're in for an even bigger shock. This is not going to end well for them at all.
EDIT: Apparently they already put their games on itch, lol
But no, now they're in for an even bigger shock. This is not going to end well for them at all.
EDIT: Apparently they already put their games on itch, lol
Pheace
Member
It does say at the top of the article on their website 'Seeking Legal Representation'.
And there's enough general animosity towards Steam they might actually get some free funding going based off that.
But yeah, good luck with that...
ElRenoRaven
Member
You know I wouldn't be surprised to see them try. At this point these dopes are gonna just keep looking for people to sue. It's sad though. I almost feel sorry for them.To be so delusional and insane. They have to be miserable people.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
No. This DH guy isn't smart. It's what you'd do if you were stupid.
*oops I'm sued*
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I'm not surprised that people like this exist. I am surprised that they managed to get games published. Even if they are horrible piece of garbage that abuse Unity packs and make drag-n-drop nightmares.
Ragnar Blackmane
Member
They should rebrand themselves as "Digital Suicide".
Triggerhappytel
Member
If the law is going to change, it needs to begin somewhere. I don't like the DH guys and I think most of their actions have been moronic, but ignoring all of the baggage around this I do think they have a point that people who receive death threats online should be protected by the law. It's a shame this will be lost in the noise because they've become a bit of a joke.
TerryLee81
Member
How does the court system work in the US? Here, if you sue someone and lose, you have to pay for all the expenses of the winning party.
This would cost the A LOT of money, Valve's lawyer fees will be than what they made with their games.
This would cost the A LOT of money, Valve's lawyer fees will be than what they made with their games.
There argumentation is so flimsy and self centered it is mind boggling that those two are considered adults. I mean sure death threats and insults are a terrible thing and should be condemned, but those weren't the only people they tried to sue. Callomf there game shit seems to be a personal attack for them and there first reaction to everything seems to be the big red sue button that they hammered so much at this point no one is taking them seriously.
Barvo Digital Homicide. Many people committed public suicide and fucked over there careers, but no one quite as childishly and whinny as you two.
Barvo Digital Homicide. Many people committed public suicide and fucked over there careers, but no one quite as childishly and whinny as you two.
JonathanPower
Member
I don't think so. It's more likely they were not expecting to be removed from steam. In fact, I assume they were expecting to have Valve support against the harassment they were receiving. Now, if what they say is true, they have all the rights to sue Valve and if Valve did something illegal the only way they can try to get justice is by suing them. They have nothing to lose since they already got removed from steam.
capitalCORN
Member
I've mentioned there are greater victims. If this shit passed for theses chucklefucks it would be an absolute embarassment. Considering we are talking about American companies, these things boil down to the respective policies. And Digital Homicide sure as hell aren't looking to make friends.
GrantDaNasty
Member
Zoe Quinn is an indie-game dev who was unfortunately made into the Prime target of the GamerGate movement.
The reason the quoted poster brought her up is (just my idea of it, can't say for certain this was the intention) because if she can't stop people online from bullying her, doxxing her and threatening not only her health and safety, but that of her friends and family members, then unfortunately DH don't have a case to make either by threatening legal action, even less so by DEMANDING that Valve hand over all information they have on these users, which is fucking PREPOSTEROUS.
SirNinja
Member
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised at this point. Self-destruction is pretty much the only thing Digital Homicide doesn't half-ass.
JonathanPower
Member
This has nothing to do with the case in question though. DH is suing Valve for removing them from steam and hurting their business, they are not directly suing the people that harassed them.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Time to slay!!!!!
(Don't sue me for this, DH. It's a figure of speech that you're about to get your ass handed to you by Valve. That's a figure of speech as well.)
(Don't sue me for this, DH. It's a figure of speech that you're about to get your ass handed to you by Valve. That's a figure of speech as well.)
Pellegri Testament
Member
Except they intended to sue the people who harassed them, which is why they were demanding that Valve turn over user information for them.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1279563&highlight=digital+homicide
GrantDaNasty
Member
Not sure you read the full story. They were going to sue 100 users who had been critical of their games and posted negative reviews on Steam. I can't honestly tell you if any of these people were part of the harassers, but it VERY MUCH has to do with this case, as the reason Valve responded is because they threatened to take Valve to court if they weren't going to turn over the info on the users they were very much ready to sue.
Bigrx1
Banned
people like this disgust me. Seriously they absolutely disgust me. Shady people who do endless amounts of shady things, but absolutely REFUSE to take any responsibility for it and continually just blame the rest of the world for their problems. Makes me wonder do they live in that much denial that they actually believe their own BS and can't even see it? Or they just don't care?
I can't even imagine what it must be like living in the household with this Rovine guy or whatever his name is. Could you imagine? Just a living tornado of chaos and endless fighting everyone and everything, while being the sole cause of what he's fighting in the first place. smh
I can't even imagine what it must be like living in the household with this Rovine guy or whatever his name is. Could you imagine? Just a living tornado of chaos and endless fighting everyone and everything, while being the sole cause of what he's fighting in the first place. smh
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Good god, those guys will be billionaires when this is over!
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
Didn't DH threaten Jim Sterling, saying they could determine where is house was based on a video he did where he goes outside briefly? That's creepy as fuck and there's no way I could take these guys' side, regardless of the threats they've received.
JonathanPower
Member
And instead of going to Valve to they sould have went to the court and eventually having a judge deciding if they had the right to sue people, in which case Valve would have been forced by the authorities to release such information. The point here is enstablishing whether they violated or not some terms that gave the right to Valve to remove them from Steam.
But they haven't reported the death threats to law enforcement. Instead, they have tried to subpoena Valve to directly hand over the personal details of their users.
If they were legitimately seeking protection from death threats, the correct channel for this would be reporting it to local law enforcement, who can then investigate on their behalf. Not attempting to obtain personal details from Valve so they can then attempt more frivolous lawsuits against more individuals, as they have been doing.
Valve are absolutely in the right to protect personal information in this case, until they are asked to provide the information to law enforcement. It would be fucking nuts if any aggrieved person or company could obtain personal information under their definition of "threatened".
Boombox On
Member
That's exactly what they did.
DOBERMAN INC
Member
If they lose and Valve counter sue they are done as a company.
Bigrx1
Banned
They sued him actually, it's been in the process for months now