but they ALSO revealed a Pikmin 3 at E3 for sure. Pikmin 3 is going to be my muse I'm sure for Wii U's launch window.
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Nintendo: new Super Mario for Wii U, Reveal at E3 [Update: Based On E3 2011 Game]
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but they ALSO revealed a Pikmin 3 at E3 for sure. Pikmin 3 is going to be my muse I'm sure for Wii U's launch window.
lawl
I thought GC's launch was fine. Luigi's Mansion wasn't a masterpiece, but it was fun. We got Melee a month later, and that's lasted me 11 years and counting.
I think it was with Wii that they got lazy (lazy port of a GC game as their big title). Hopefully this isn't the start of a pattern, as NES, SNES and N64 had fantastic launches.
All with Mario games. How bout that.
TheNatural
My Member!
It's weird because this is literally the first time Nintendo gone with a certain style of a Mario platformer three times. And it's not even that great looking. You had the original SMB and then the Japan SMB2, two Mario Galaxies, and all the rest are different from one another (you could make a thin case for others being similar though.)
I think they're feeling the pressure to get something, ANYTHING, out and I'm not understanding why. They should have been able to build a whole new Mario concept from scratch with the time they've had. It's not like inside NCL itself they've been pumping out tons and tons of games lately, they need to use their time and resources better.
That's the point, aside from few people almost everybody would love to see a new 2d Mario just not a NSMB because of its lazy, anonymous art style.
They've just throw the standard models of the characters and enemies in a little above average platformer, and now they will do it again (the third time) but with the Miis.
Do we know who provided the update to Kotaku? Was it NOA, NOE, NCL? I would take anything other than from NCL with a grain of salt as I would think only a select few in NCL would know exactly what this game is. If the update were from NOA or NOE, it could all just be speculation based on what little info the reps from those branches were provided about the game, basically, what they saw at E3.
Sure if you like bad controls. When you control worse than an N64 game, that's not a good sign.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
This, word for word.
And btw, NDS launch lineup was truly terrible (thank god a bit later we got the amazing Canvas Curse and Meteos), but NGC's ruled.
Loved Luigi's Mansion being so different, adored Wave Race and well, Rogue Squadron II was a ka to me. We also got Melee just about a month later.
Solid SOAP
Member
"Based on" doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be identical to. I don't have high hopes but it's possible that it'll be a new feeling game, as opposed to the same thing since NSMB on the DS.
Hobbestetrician
Member
Uh oh, Amir0x doesn't like this, take cover!
Lord_Byron28
Member
Basically. Like I said it's probably going to become something akin to Mario Kart. It will have some little gimmicks here and there but for the most part the game's core will stay the same.
Wow......lol. I'm not even a fan of NSMB Wii but you and a number of other posters are taking this way too far and seriously. I also am pretty sure most platformer junkies like Anihawk were in agreement that NSMB Wii was a very good game so I'm not sure where this assment that it's low effort shit.
TheNatural
My Member!
Tangent, but are ANY 2D platformers good looking with flat out 3D polygonal characters? That is, without some sort of toon or cel shading or coloring like Donkey Kong Country.
I don't think it's a good look for 3D models in a 2D platformer, without some sort of shading to make it look like a 2D sprite - if that makes sense.
I don't think it's a good look for 3D models in a 2D platformer, without some sort of shading to make it look like a 2D sprite - if that makes sense.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
NSMBWii was a very good game. But do I want it AGAIN!? With that same ugly art direction!? WITH MIIS!?
Hot Coldman
Banned
Thumb strap makes them acceptable. And the additional content makes it all worthwhile. Guys, I was the bomb at that game, and I'm lame as FUCK as video games, so the controls being bad is pretty much an O.J. level lie in my book
yup
Eh? Of course there are. Off the top of my head Bionic Commando Rearmed.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Ugh, really Nintendo?! Fucking Miis :/ nothing says "Wii U is underpowered" more than fucking Miis. This better be some downloadable game you can get for 10 bucks and made by 5 guys in a month.
The Insane Dufresne
Member
This would be a great game to include with all new systems (ala Wii Sports).
Otherwise, meh.
Edit: Post above covers it.
Otherwise, meh.
Edit: Post above covers it.
Supermanisdead
Member
Miis are popular because of their simplicity. Nobody wants a Playstation Home avatar.
I have no problem with them being the Wii mascots or being in Mario games. As if Mario was such a pristine, unpolluted franchise before lol.
I have no problem with them being the Wii mascots or being in Mario games. As if Mario was such a pristine, unpolluted franchise before lol.
Oh wow just saw the update about it being based off last years NSMBMii game. You have my condolences.
It's not all bad though. Since it will probably be the same game on both 3DS and WiiU you can probably do cool cross platform stuff between them by linking your 3DS and WiiU friend codes such as
every step you take on the 3DS adds coins to your WiiU version
make Miis on the WiiU and transfer them to the 3DS version
maybe some type of street pass stuff if you live in Japan
maybe extra content for going to Best Buy and/or McDonalds
share DLC between them
all sorts of cool things.
It's not all bad though. Since it will probably be the same game on both 3DS and WiiU you can probably do cool cross platform stuff between them by linking your 3DS and WiiU friend codes such as
every step you take on the 3DS adds coins to your WiiU version
make Miis on the WiiU and transfer them to the 3DS version
maybe some type of street pass stuff if you live in Japan
maybe extra content for going to Best Buy and/or McDonalds
share DLC between them
all sorts of cool things.
i actually wonder if this 'mario game' is actually a Mario-themed Party type game for package with Wii U. Not Mario Party, so to speak, but like Wii Play, a series of mini-games to show the 'potential' of the tablet controller and whatever.
Unless this is something with only like 1/4th of the normal amount of Mario content is there any chance they pack it in.
Not that I mind. Can't say I was a fan of the art style but at the same time I didn't think it was nearly as bad as many people.
Will pick it up day one for my son and hopefully a couple of 3rd party games.
Not that I mind. Can't say I was a fan of the art style but at the same time I didn't think it was nearly as bad as many people.
Will pick it up day one for my son and hopefully a couple of 3rd party games.
ZeroGravity
Member
Both New Super Mario Bros. games are fantastic. No reason to doubt this will be as well.
JimboJones
Member
I'd take Mii's over the two coloured toads although having more characters (like wario, princess) would be nice.
I do hope it's gonna look/sound a bit nicer though, i'd be dissapointed if we just get HD NSMBWii art.
Still, I look forward to the gameplay.
I do hope it's gonna look/sound a bit nicer though, i'd be dissapointed if we just get HD NSMBWii art.
Still, I look forward to the gameplay.
Hot Coldman
Banned
like super mario world amirite
Miis are popular because they're forced. I didn't wanna make one for 3DS, but Nintendo made me. So I made a kawaii azn girl ^_^
Don't think like that, you're only going to be more disappointed when you find out it's just a 2D Mario platformer, why do it to yourself!?
Do not underestimate modern Nintendo.
Don't think like that, you're only going to be more disappointed when you find out it's just a 2D Mario platformer, why do it to yourself!?
you're foiling my plan to get myself un-hyped so I can be pleasantly surprised
Lord_Byron28
Member
Please explain to me how based on 4 levels you are able to determine its a cheap cash in and is a low quality effort. I'm not a fan of the aesthetics or the mii inclusion but ill wait and see. This kind of jumping to conclusions reminds me of how everyone thought new super mario bros wii was a port of the ds game or from the same engine.
I think you're being melodramatic.
My commentary is on Mii's. My feeling is it's in all likelihood a cheap low-effort shit because that was the general standard for any Wii game with Mii's in it and on top of that this is probably going to be a launch window game, in my opinion. So you combine the two and you get what I feel is a fairly good prediction, judging by game launch history. I'm not a big fan of NSMB Wii either, so that doesn't inspire much hope.
Box said:
I'm being only what I really feel. Mii's are garbage
But dude, they'll be HD Miis.
HD only available on television sets that support it. Any use of NSMBMii on the WiiU controller will not be in HD along with any 3DS version. Certain restrictions may apply. See Nintendo.com for details. Rated E for Everybody.
Well then I guess I think you are melodramatic.
This is something you expect from a small, incredibly lazy and untalented developer with scarce resources:
When it's Nintendo we're talking about, you expect something closer to this:
Hot Coldman
Banned
I thought I wanted more detailed Miis too.
Then Avatars happened.
Then Avatars happened.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it. Otherwise you'll just run off with crazy ideas and meltdown when you find out the truth. I'm just protecting you Ami, you can thank me later!you're foiling my plan to get myself un-hyped so I can be pleasantly surprised
This x10000000. I hope they update them in someway, but who am I kidding?Amir0x said:
This is something you expect from a small, incredibly lazy and untalented developer with scarce resources:
When it's Nintendo we're talking about, you expect something closer to this:
Really, it's odd, because Nintendo created this for a character like Wario:
They're capable! I just want best Nintendo to come out, not lazy Nintendo!
Yeah they're pretty bad.
There not in too many games I'd be otherwise playing though. Maybe they're incorporated more in the 3DS. I don't one one of those.
I didn't like how they used them for file selection in stuff like Metroid Prime 3, that was really jarring.
BassForever
Member
I'm not sure why everyone is freaking out, odds are NSMBWU will be a brand new game and not just an HD port with Miis added. The footage showed at E3 2011 showed levels not in the Wii or 3DS game.
boyshine
Member
Koji Kondo, youd better be the lead composer and bring some new tunes for this one. All my greatest Mario moments are related to the soundtrack, which is why I cant list NSMBW as even close to being among my favourite Mario games.
Also, Im starting to dislike Charles Martinets Mario voice, especially the title screen voices. Dont have Mario speak any words, just stick to the woo, hah, ow, wohoo, hahah and owowow sounds thanks.
Also, Im starting to dislike Charles Martinets Mario voice, especially the title screen voices. Dont have Mario speak any words, just stick to the woo, hah, ow, wohoo, hahah and owowow sounds thanks.
I didn't mind it as a... bobble head in the ship. I thought that was the only time I kind of giggled at a Mii being used.
I think the problem is this is the third game in the blandest art direction mario ever, and people are hoping maybe with Wii U... Nintendo would try a little harder?
Only reason it doesn't really kill me too much is I believe all console developers get the "three lazy cash-in" rule for console launch windows, because they're all scrambling to get these things out and let's face it things get rushed. If this is a launch window game, we'll all just hope it's a temporary thing until they can get their talented teams working on stuff for a decent period of time.
The moment you play NSMBwii and truly realize it cost 10 cents and a bag of chips is when you see the "rolling hills" in the first level. I mean, it just looks like garbage. It looks like something done in a fanmade game maker. I don't understand how so little care could've been put into the visuals of that game.
Saint Gregory
Member
Damn, this was the update I feared from the beginning. I think the lesson Nintendo learned from this gen is why put so much effort into 3D Mario when 2D Mario with a lot less effort sells ten times as much. We'll get a 3D Mario eventually but Nintendo's going to bet their future on 2D Mario for the foreseeable future.
Let's pray that they at least do something about that artstyle.
Let's pray that they at least do something about that artstyle.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Even Kirby's Epic Yarn, for all its snooze fest gameplay, has an incredible art direction.
Basically all of Nintendo's current 2D platformers have excellent art. Except fucking Super Mario Bros.
Basically all of Nintendo's current 2D platformers have excellent art. Except fucking Super Mario Bros.
Costcosaurus
Banned
Why does this look exactly like New Super Mario Bros. Wii, except with Miis as the characters?