Glitchesarecool
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PUBG dev Bluehole concerned over Fortnite's Battle Royale [Up: Background Both Sides]
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PUBG is a refinement of all the other battle royale style games that have come before it.
I was surprised that major developers didn't jump on the bandwagon back when DayZ became the hot thing. I originally thought that The Division was going to be targeting that crowd, but that turned out to be more of a loot shooter than a survival game.
I was surprised that major developers didn't jump on the bandwagon back when DayZ became the hot thing. I originally thought that The Division was going to be targeting that crowd, but that turned out to be more of a loot shooter than a survival game.
Wut? You haven't played Fortnite if you think that.
It's a school bus.
Ninja Scooter
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I think they are trying to play it off as sort of being "in on it", but yeah.
Does Epic games have the ability to look into the code of companies that use UE4? I am assuming not, so I don't understand why the fact PUBG has used Unreal really helps Epic in cloning it.
Also I think the only "advertisement" I am aware of was the PS Blog post announcing the mode. It seemed to be a pretty earnest comment from the developer, and if he didn't compare it to PUBG of course everyone else would?
I guess I understand Bluehole's frustration but like, very many things in gaming in general are iterative improvements that other developers lean on. Given that PlayerUnknown literally got his start modding another game, it seems a bit hypocritical that now his project would look down on other companies taking inspiration from his work.
Neuromancer
Member
Mostly I'm just upset that only the PUBG ripoff mode is going free next week and not the PVE mode. Come on
FullMetaltech
Member
A western battle royale would chaotic.
BigEmil
Junior Member
Well then. Huh. Not on Bluehole's side now lol and especially that games before it H1Z1, DayZ, ARMA etc existed before it...
The à¹ÛBronx
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To be fair, Bluehole are geniuses, I can understand their upset.
The name Battle Royale is so distinct and fits so well. The whole concept of having a group of people on an island whittle each other down until one remains with a variety of weapons is honestly something I'm surprised hadn't been thought of earlier. It's such an interesting concept. To then add 'danger zones' into the mix where every so often portions of the map are unsafe only serves to heighten the experience, something unique that I'm glad was thought of.
Items like the yellow and black tracksuit help provide style to the game as well. Though it's unclear where the inspiration came from, probably Kill Bill, it just seems to work.
Epic need to back off, it isn't right that Bluehole can create something so profoundly unique only to have others shamelessly copy it (even the name!).
The name Battle Royale is so distinct and fits so well. The whole concept of having a group of people on an island whittle each other down until one remains with a variety of weapons is honestly something I'm surprised hadn't been thought of earlier. It's such an interesting concept. To then add 'danger zones' into the mix where every so often portions of the map are unsafe only serves to heighten the experience, something unique that I'm glad was thought of.
Items like the yellow and black tracksuit help provide style to the game as well. Though it's unclear where the inspiration came from, probably Kill Bill, it just seems to work.
Epic need to back off, it isn't right that Bluehole can create something so profoundly unique only to have others shamelessly copy it (even the name!).
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DayZ was a persistent open world survival game where you fought against zombies and players.
PUBG is a 30 minute-round survival free for all game with a shrinking playing field.
I agree with you that they have the right to say that but don't you think it's tacky on their part to wave the threat of legal action?
Do you have any actual criticisms of people's reactions, or just this broad nothingness?
cripterion
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They are taking their sweet ass time to implement basic features while making tons of cash, I'm all for other devs trying to get a proper BR game out.
Provide a smoother experience with a lesser amount of time? I don't think the BR in Fornite is going for the same thing as PUBG in any case.
Provide a smoother experience with a lesser amount of time? I don't think the BR in Fornite is going for the same thing as PUBG in any case.
RumbleHumble
Banned
Because "gameplay" as a concept isn't something that's, as far as I remember, protected under IP law. It's similar to how you can't protect a process or math formula.
Felix Lighter
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DayZ isn't even a Battle Royale game. It's not the same concept.
Well I mean, the article adds essentially nothing to the stuff posted in the OP. So it seems like everything important was covered. What exactly are people missing that is in the article?
Loot crates >>>> Leaping over knee-high fences. The road map is strong!
Saucycarpdog
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Better alternatives to CSGO have existed for years and yet it's only recently been stagnating thanks to PUBG. The PC space works much differently than you're thinking.
Such as?
I mean, it's clear a lot of people needed to read this part of the article
Peroroncino
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yeaaaah, right... because bluehole invented the idea of battle royale in games, uh-uh.
Exploratory
Banned
Why do we keep seeing this question?! They're wildly different games.
Maintenance
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I guess that poster thinks weak lip service in an AMA fundamentally reframes the whole thing? (It doesn't)
I'm not seeing what people are missing according to you. It's a pretty short statement the only thing not in the op is PU saying he knows people are going to copy him and he hopes they do their own twist on it instead of carbon copy. There are actually a lot of differences between Fortnite and PUBG also even if it was a carbon copy as long as the code and assets are unique there is nothing they can legally do.
Ok cool. People can hope for a lot of things that doesn't mean they will get it. If another company comes out with a clone that is better then people will move to that.
RumbleHumble
Banned
That's the joke.
Ninja Scooter
Member
The similarities between PUBG and Fortnite BR are more than just mechanics. In fact the mechanics are probably the one thing that are the most different between the two. It's the presentation that is a complete and blatant (and Epic seems to acknowledge this in a tongue in cheek way) rip off. Is this something Bluehole should be able to successfully sue over? I don't think so. It's very "Street Fighter/Fighter's History" to me. But I can see why they are concerned. And from a huge company like Epic, it's a little tacky tbh.
TimeEffect
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I don't think people are blaming Brendan Greene here. Fortnite also has you build things given the nature of the game it's based on.
ClosingADoor
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Unless they actually steal art or assets, there is nothing wrong with this.
Stone Ocean
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Is this sarcasm? Its gotta be sarcasm.The ๖ۜBronx;249657393 said:
Yearsoflurking
Member
Exactly games have copied cod but they didn't EXACTLY copy the formula ui and animations. This mode from epic is some shit you'd see on the iOS store.
Felix Lighter
Member
He's being sarcastic.
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
get used to it. i doubt Fornite will be the last game.
just wait until the big players start dipping their toes in. hell, hasn't Rockstar added a battle royale mode to GTA Online? i'd be more worried about that tbh. if that hasn't got him worried then wait until the rest join in.
just wait until the big players start dipping their toes in. hell, hasn't Rockstar added a battle royale mode to GTA Online? i'd be more worried about that tbh. if that hasn't got him worried then wait until the rest join in.
If they can implement an at will jumping mechanic then wholeheartedly agree. Without that I don't think it would hold up.
The à¹ÛBronx
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Sygma
Member
Confirmed, rise of the triad gonna sue everyone for stealing ctf feelsbad
bonesmccoy
Banned
I suppose too that BH could have been sharing design ideas and road maps with Epic.
H1Z1 itself is a DayZlike, making PUBG a H1Z1likeDayZlike. Therefore Fortnite BR is a PUBGlikeH1Z1DayZlikelike.
H1Z1 itself is a DayZlike, making PUBG a H1Z1likeDayZlike. Therefore Fortnite BR is a PUBGlikeH1Z1DayZlikelike.
mullet2000
Member
Missed that part. Ridiculous, obviously.
GinoFelino
Member
Mic dropped, thread closed, bluehole ownedThe ๖ۜBronx;249657393 said:
You need to buy a new detector
dayz has respawn and there is no circle forcing every player to the same location.
Doesn't really change much. Fortnite Battle Royale has base building mechanics, it's own 'unique spin', but it doesn't seem that's enough for Bluehole. So it's a vague, meaningless statement.
Bluehole highlighted Brendan Greene's comment.
This is the first reply to the thread.
PackAPunchedMick
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Didn't bluehole recently add first person view?
ID gunna be pissed...
ID gunna be pissed...
Stone Ocean
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Ok, thats a relief. I can never be too sure sometimes.The ๖ۜBronx;249658023 said:
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