I'm not surprised that it was not a game "journalist" that deduced this. If it turns out to be true, I'm never buying Live again. I'll still buy non-PS3 exclusives for the Xbox as I like the platform better and the 360 has a better warranty than the PS3, but I could care less about multiplayer. The only reason I subscribe to Live is for Netflix and the sales really and I've never paid more than $30 for a year. If it turns out that MS expects me to pay an extra $10 for a game that I've never played and never intend to buy, yeah, don't think so.
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Activision directly responsible for $10 XBL price hike?
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Ploid 3.0
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Game journalists are so worthless. And they are afraid to piss off possible game company sponsors, or they seem to think they will get blacklisted if they kick. I think they'd get more free stuff if they were very much like real journalists since the companies would try to bribe them.
Branduil said:
You underestimate the leverage that Activision has here. Incredibly, there are FOUR Call of Duty games in the Xbox Live Top 10.
Microsoft can't simply tell them to fuck off. Just like they had to accomodate EA's demands in 2004, they've gotta bend over for Activision now too.
Diablohead
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I am actually rather glad to have stuck my copy of black ops on ebay last night, I gave up on the game last week after so much bullshit netcode ruins nearly everything you do in a fast twitch shooter, I my as well make my money back selling it.
MaddenNFL64
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I'm in too deep with the 360. A 10 dollar hike makes me hate all companies involved just that much more, but they'll get their fucking money.
Not CoD though. MW2 is the last one. Not that I particularly cared about the franchise anyway.
Not CoD though. MW2 is the last one. Not that I particularly cared about the franchise anyway.
Easystride
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Good idea. I actually did that after one day, and I kind of made a little bit of profit if you figure in the $20 GC from Amazon.Diablohead said:
GitarooMan
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Where's the jump to conclusions mat when you need it?
Kind of sad that games journalists either wouldn't make this connection or wouldn't talk about it if they did. They are too dependent on companies like Microsoft and Activision for the content that drives people to their sites, so they don't want to rock the boat. I hope somebody proves me wrong and actually starts asking some questions.
You know, it would be nice if there were a gaming website somewhere that used subscription fees as an income source so it had a bit more freedom...
diztrukted
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luxarific said:
I'm curious, how've you managed to do that? I just renewed by subscription today buying the one year subscription from amazon for $40
but $30? thats, great.
@ OP good job, I wonder how long it'll take kotaku to steal it.
So the $10 hike for the U.S market is enough to keep Activision happy? I know the U.S. is a huge market, but is that enough? Wouldn't they be happier with charging for COD MP across all market and all platforms?
If this hike was across all the markets, I can see this theory working out. As is? Not so much.
If this hike was across all the markets, I can see this theory working out. As is? Not so much.
BenjaminBirdie
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ErnieMcCracken said:
:lol
Perfect.
No_Style said:
$10 x the number of gold subscriptions = $$$$$$$$$$ What makes this sweeter for Activision is that they're making money off of all the people NOT playing CoD. Even though the price hike just went into effect, does anyone know about how many Gold members there are potentially now?
Ironically I nearly bought a renewal card last night for my XBL subscription... kind of glad I didn't end up doing it now, if this is all indeed true.
MaddenNFL64
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mj1108 said:
Ya, that shit really gets you pissed. I don't fucking play CoD anymore. Just fucking make them pay you directly. Most of them would.
GitarooMan
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Why do people assume this:
means that they got absolutely nothing before. You can interpret "don't really participate" as being "we don't get much," which is the same as what he said later.
And lol at the idea that Acti would get all 10 dollars of the increase and/or the concept that they are the only third-party publisher who would get a piece.
means that they got absolutely nothing before. You can interpret "don't really participate" as being "we don't get much," which is the same as what he said later.
And lol at the idea that Acti would get all 10 dollars of the increase and/or the concept that they are the only third-party publisher who would get a piece.
flyinpiranha
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I wonder how long until this is posted on Kotaku.
Interesting if indeed true. I'm just about done with XBLive myself. I have it paid for a year or two at about $30 a pop so I'm not really worried about the price hike. But I'm not paying for CoD bullshit, let the people that play CoD pay for that.
Plus, in the last couple months my reason for playing on it (RL friends) has dwindled with families, moves, game selection and such. So I rarely play online as it is.
Interesting if indeed true. I'm just about done with XBLive myself. I have it paid for a year or two at about $30 a pop so I'm not really worried about the price hike. But I'm not paying for CoD bullshit, let the people that play CoD pay for that.
Plus, in the last couple months my reason for playing on it (RL friends) has dwindled with families, moves, game selection and such. So I rarely play online as it is.
http://gamer.blorge.com/2010/07/08/activision-wants-cut-from-xbox-live-subscription/
Here's another quote from an article called: Activision wants cut from Xbox Live subscription from July 8, 2010
Here's another quote from an article called: Activision wants cut from Xbox Live subscription from July 8, 2010
teruterubozu
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XBL Truthers :lol
ConradCervantes
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If true, and that is a tremendous if, then it's just another addition to the list of reasons why I don't give my business to Microsoft any longer. I won't be screwed out of a few extra dollars for a game I'm not even playing.
Diablohead
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Microsoft's next console to be called the Activision Box, confirmed!
MaddenNFL64
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Baha said:
What are they really though, gaming journalists, I mean.
Are they supposed to be consumer advocates? Looking into the industry, and finding out the inside story of what back room deals are being made that may affect our wallets, maybe even breaking a story that may get people fired from these companies?
Or are they just part of the industry itself, a cog in the machine, used to advertise, and critique their product, but never delve into the finer details as to mess up their relationships with them?
MaddenNFL64 said:
They're looking out for their jobs first and foremost and their jobs depend on advertising revenue....so you won't see anything hardhitting on any developers/publishers in fear of pissing them off and dropping their ad revenue stream/access to early builds/early review copies, etc...
Then again, it's been said that even a bad review can tarnish a relationship.
teruterubozu
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Activision, Microsoft, game journalists, Kotaku....
Who else should we throw in the fire? :lol
Who else should we throw in the fire? :lol
Miggytronz
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mind blown.....
MaddenNFL64
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teruterubozu said:
Kotaku is blog. An aggregate site. No one should have a beef with them as long as they give credit to whoever they got their media, or stories from.
And gaming journalists, well like I said, I don't know what the fuck they are. I don't think finding this shit out is part of their job description.
MS & Activision. Yes, fuck them.
Meus Renaissance
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Reading the OP, I ask myself what Microsoft would get - other than negative press coverage - from raising the subscription fee. It is their service and it is their platform at the end of the day, it's not like Kotick has any say in LIVE policy-making, so why would Microsoft play ball with this? This is why I doubt Activision had a direct role in triggering the increase. It must have been decided in Redmond, and Activision got wind of the news and negotiated something in part-exchange (e.g. DLC exclusivity and marketing primarily for the 360).
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