smokeandmirrors
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IIRC it's because their architecture is more efficient and less power hungry than Nvidia's counterparts, at least they were when I got my last card.
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PS4 Rumors , APU code named 'Liverpool' Radeon HD 7970 GPU Steamroller CPU 16GB Flash
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IIRC it's because their architecture is more efficient and less power hungry than Nvidia's counterparts, at least they were when I got my last card.
How do you follow football without a sense of humour, man? C'mon. Sheesh.
Ahhh! This is what I was waiting for. Websites with hyphens in their name are rarely good for you.
painful fart
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"it will have a maximum output of 1080"
Fake spec is fake.
That's no longer true, but it was true when they would have had these design wins. But only in GPUs, not CPUs.
iamshadowlark
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I doubt it would be in a retail configuration. Surely they would remove ALUs.
I thought we were complaining that this generation's consoles hit their limits prematurely and haven't been powerful enough to keep up relative to past cycles?
Glorified G
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If your saying that's for the discrete gpu, as long as they bump up the ram to 4, I'm satisfied.
smokeandmirrors
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Well, yeah. The HD 6000 series was far more efficient than Nvidia's counterparts... Which is what I'm going to guess will be in the next generation of consoles.
As for AMD CPU's: LOL.
Would make no sense to take a 7970 or something then basically remove half of its performance.
specialguy
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Tahiti is over 3 teraflops, so this rumor isn't internally consistent. Link here http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/15/...cs-leak-out-3-5-tflops-3gb-on-board-memory-3w
I suppose it's possible this rumor has truth too it, and the site just got the name of the gpu wrong, but it is a 1.8 teraflop GPU.
Because I had heard the PS4 had a better GPU but less RAM than Durango, and that Durango had a 1-1.5 TF GPU. So all that fits, for whatever tiny bit it's worth, which isn't much.
It's all likely too much for a SOC too. Most likely it's just balony.
a 7970 bolted on to a 3.2 ghz quad core as part of an apu?
you know why you'd only be getting less than half the 3.8 tflops you'd expect from a 7970? because it would be on fire.
the source also states that ps4 was going to be a announced at e3 until the gpu threw a last minute spanner in the works (which was the only reason for the underwhelming conference, duhhhh).
sonyfriend fanfiction. good for a quick tug but don't propose to it or anything.
you know why you'd only be getting less than half the 3.8 tflops you'd expect from a 7970? because it would be on fire.
the source also states that ps4 was going to be a announced at e3 until the gpu threw a last minute spanner in the works (which was the only reason for the underwhelming conference, duhhhh).
sonyfriend fanfiction. good for a quick tug but don't propose to it or anything.
No the real issue here is abandoning CELL. When for years we were being told CELL was the future of all things. And that CELL would be in everything from televisions to toasters.
Depending on the situation, it could make sense. With a console you're not limited to off-the-shelf parts. You can customize the desired feature set, performance, cost and thermal envelope.
Lord Error
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I have never been as impressed with end-generation content like I am with Last of Us and GOW4. We are reaching a certain level of visuals now where it's all purely budget.
PS4/X720 will do Final Fantasy movie like graphics. Not the actual ray-tracing craziness or individual strains of hair per skin-cell but it will achieve the overall visual impact in hand of good developers.
Infact i haven't red the info on the op.
iamshadowlark
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Thats typically what console gpu's are anyway. They do it for the architecture.
fluffydelusions
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More than that. Well I guess it depends when it releases really (if rumors are true)
BrokenEchelon
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I hope these specs are true.
Lord Error
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Rumor with these specs has been fairly persistent the last month or two, and source are developers who want to remain anonymous. Unless everyone's lying about everything (this and new Xbox specs) it seems fairly believable.
smokeandmirrors
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Graphics performance, yes, but for everything else, AMD are incredibly behind Intel in terms of pretty much everything else.
Projectjustice
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$699.99, Sony is going for broke!
specialguy
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Most likely no Cell in PS4 is a done deal and has been so for a long time. It's a pretty dead chip.
Plus you can be sure next time Sony doesnt want to be difficult to program for again.
Only message board noobs think there's any chance of Cell in PS4.
Lord Error
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It's not 7970, that was a misleading quote. If you read it a bit more carefully you'll see what he meant.
bgassassin
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Everything is correct. They just used the wrong name for the GPU. It's comparable to an underclocked Pitcairn.
iamshadowlark
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Nothing about this rumor really suggests much more than $400 worth of tech.
I just wish this site would leak this supposed document it has.
That's actually true. Something to consider at least. However, back then die shrinks were still more reliable, and high-end GPUs used less power. It's more likely that this is really just a 1.8 TFlop GPU, so ~ 1/2 of a 7970.
Thats all that matters. this is a gaming console after all.
Thanks for the laughs.
clutch.as.it.gets.
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Increase the RAM to 4 GB and you will have a good machine, Sony.
bgassassin
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I agree. I think Sony is on track for a powerful console that won't break the bank this coming gen.
Diddy Kong
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Fixed.
I see now. Well, even less crazy then.
gaming_noob
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Sooo tired of your trolling.
Dreams-Visions
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which is why it ain't happening.
the power draw and cooling alone that would be needed...
specialguy
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So if PS4 had a 1.8 TF GPU but 2GB RAM, presumably GDDR5. Durango as rumored had a 1-1.5 TF GPU and 8GB RAM, albeit slower DDR3, that would be well, pretty interesting how it would turn out in practice and which would have better looking games.
I'm guessing third parties wouldn't love the massive RAM disparity there for porting.
even the code-name Liverpool & 16GB of flash?
gamergirly
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Sounds like $599.95 to me. Man, I hope they make something affordable, between them or MS. We thinking about only 2 consoles this gen......
Projectjustice
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Yea cause it wont be a 7970 in it.
smokeandmirrors
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So how do you suppose the raw number crunching and mathematics behind enemy AI, physics, lights, etc is going to be done? You could have a Radeon HD 7970 but if you pair it with an Intel Core 2 Duo, your bottle neck is always going to be the processor.
Also that's partially why the Cell processor in the PS3 is so successful, especially when you off load a lot of the number crunching from the GPU to the CPU.
Glorified G
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umm what? Where did you hear this?
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