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AmyS
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(03-30-2017, 03:10 AM)

Originally Posted by piggychan

I have 2 white saturns both have lasted years. Personally I think they are great but you will at some stage have to whiten them if yellowing bothers you.

Yeah, I just want a functional Saturn mainly for import shmups and fighting games.
Teknoman
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(03-30-2017, 09:09 AM)
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MikeMyers
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(03-30-2017, 10:10 AM)
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So I'm playing NiGHTS PS3, and the controls still feel off, even though it was allegedly patched.

That said I did try the Saturn mode and the controls there feel more closer there. So I guess the controls might have been altered for the PS2 version, since the HD version is based on that?
D.Lo
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(03-30-2017, 11:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by piggychan

I have 2 white saturns both have lasted years. Personally I think they are great but you will at some stage have to whiten them if yellowing bothers you.

True that.

My whitey has had literally no issues in ~20 years.
koopas
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(03-30-2017, 11:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by Teknoman

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Wow. How much if you don't mind me asking? Obi?

This is the next heaavy hitter on my list.
D.Lo
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(03-30-2017, 01:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Teknoman

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Holy shite
Jaeger
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(03-30-2017, 06:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Teknoman

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Good shit!
Irvin
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(03-30-2017, 11:34 PM)

Originally Posted by KC-Slater

Most of my games work, but I consistently have issues with the following: Nights, Sega Rally (JP), and Elevator Action Returns. I've re-ripped the games dozens of times, and still can't get the first two to work, and the EAR freezes during the load screen after the character selection. Have you had any luck with these? (For what it's worth, I'm using a RHEA with a Model 1)

Originally Posted by Serge85

Hello, I've tried sega rally (usa) and EAR, both work without issues.

Nights won't load using fast boot mode (I'm using rhea menu, so far is the only game that I've tried that doesn't work with Fast boot), nevertheless works fine using Full boot.

Hi, I'm the developer behind the menu software for the Rhea/Phoebe ODEs.
I tend to simply lurk around some of these appreciation threads every now and then, as I enjoy following them, and in fact the Dreamcast thread had a hand in renewing my interest for the console a few years back.
But anyway, to the point, for any member here using my software, if you happen to experience any issues feel free to PM me and I'll gladly look into it whenever I have the chance.

Now regarding the aforementioned games, I can also attest that there's no known issues with those (at least on my end) including Nights into Dreams (US region) which for me works correctly with fast boot mode.
Actually, with the improvements in v0.2 and after all the extensive testing done by me and a few users, I'm not aware of any game that currently doesn't work with that boot mode.
I'm not saying that it is entirely outside of the realm of possibilities for some games to not work well with that mode, but simply put it's not feasible for me to test every single game in the console library to find it out.

So I think it's very likely that the issues are being caused by the rips themselves, I suggest to try ripping those games with another software, like CloneCD or CD Manipulator which is a free/open source alternative.
(the latter requires renaming the extension of header file from .CDM to .CCD for it to be recognized by the ODE)
However to guarantee perfect rips, you'd want to either follow the Sega Saturn dumping guide or use DiscImageCreator. That way track hashes can be matched against the database to confirm the dumps are fine.
Obviously what's described in that guide isn't exactly accessible for everyone, including drive requirements. So then the alternative (to save some headaches) is to obtain good dumps from another source instead.
I know this is a morally gray area, but to each their own, personally I see nothing wrong with it in this particular instance, as long as you own the discs themselves.

Another possible cause, could be the SD card itself, likely by having some high latency spikes on read access or because some sort of internal upkeep function which causes instability (common with Transcend)
So in conclusion, it's always a good idea to first try a different brand/size of SD card, just to make sure it is not at fault.
Last edited by Irvin; 03-30-2017 at 11:44 PM.
Dwayne
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(03-31-2017, 12:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by Irvin

Hi, I'm the developer behind the menu software for the Rhea/Phoebe ODEs.

Awesome post, thanks for sharing!
Teknoman
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(03-31-2017, 07:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by koopas

Wow. How much if you don't mind me asking? Obi?

This is the next heaavy hitter on my list.

400 bucks. 200 from ThankYou rewards points, and 200 actual money. The obi was folded up behind the manual, didnt know it was included from the description.

Originally Posted by D.Lo

Holy shite

Originally Posted by Jaeger

Good shit!

KC-Slater
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(03-31-2017, 02:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Irvin

Hi, I'm the developer behind the menu software for the Rhea/Phoebe ODEs.
I tend to simply lurk around some of these appreciation threads every now and then, as I enjoy following them, and in fact the Dreamcast thread had a hand in renewing my interest for the console a few years back.
But anyway, to the point, for any member here using my software, if you happen to experience any issues feel free to PM me and I'll gladly look into it whenever I have the chance.

Now regarding the aforementioned games, I can also attest that there's no known issues with those (at least on my end) including Nights into Dreams (US region) which for me works correctly with fast boot mode.
Actually, with the improvements in v0.2 and after all the extensive testing done by me and a few users, I'm not aware of any game that currently doesn't work with that boot mode.
I'm not saying that it is entirely outside of the realm of possibilities for some games to not work well with that mode, but simply put it's not feasible for me to test every single game in the console library to find it out.

So I think it's very likely that the issues are being caused by the rips themselves, I suggest to try ripping those games with another software, like CloneCD or CD Manipulator which is a free/open source alternative.
(the latter requires renaming the extension of header file from .CDM to .CCD for it to be recognized by the ODE)
However to guarantee perfect rips, you'd want to either follow the Sega Saturn dumping guide or use DiscImageCreator. That way track hashes can be matched against the database to confirm the dumps are fine.
Obviously what's described in that guide isn't exactly accessible for everyone, including drive requirements. So then the alternative (to save some headaches) is to obtain good dumps from another source instead.
I know this is a morally gray area, but to each their own, personally I see nothing wrong with it in this particular instance, as long as you own the discs themselves.

Another possible cause, could be the SD card itself, likely by having some high latency spikes on read access or because some sort of internal upkeep function which causes instability (common with Transcend)
So in conclusion, it's always a good idea to first try a different brand/size of SD card, just to make sure it is not at fault.

Hey, thanks for the reply, and thank you for your contributions to the menu! I've generally had a great experience with it, and at this point feel like any minor gripes I may have with it are truly me just being particular. The fact that I am able to instantly load any of my games via a visual interface seamless on the system without so much as touching the disc drive is fantastic!

I'll check out some of the resources you have mentioned. I have definitely not ruled out my ripped images being the issue -- they were being ripped and converted through a series of different computers and virtual machines using Daemon Tools and DiscJuggler. My SD card could also be the issue, as it was a cheap hand me down that came god knows where, originally...
I may end up having to take you up on your offer of bugging you via PM.
Last edited by KC-Slater; 03-31-2017 at 02:20 PM.
Galdelico
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(03-31-2017, 02:39 PM)
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That Hyper Duel, Teknoman... Damn.
Thumbs up!
sixteen-bit
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(03-31-2017, 03:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Teknoman

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Hyper jelly
blast processed
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(03-31-2017, 09:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by Teknoman

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Dude!!! Awesome pickup!
koopas
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(04-01-2017, 05:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by Teknoman

400 bucks. 200 from ThankYou rewards points, and 200 actual money. The obi was folded up behind the manual, didnt know it was included from the description.

Amazing. Crazy how big a difference in price that little piece of cardboard can make.
Serge85
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(04-01-2017, 06:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by Irvin

Hi, I'm the developer behind the menu software for the Rhea/Phoebe ODEs.
I tend to simply lurk around some of these appreciation threads every now and then, as I enjoy following them, and in fact the Dreamcast thread had a hand in renewing my interest for the console a few years back.
But anyway, to the point, for any member here using my software, if you happen to experience any issues feel free to PM me and I'll gladly look into it whenever I have the chance.

Now regarding the aforementioned games, I can also attest that there's no known issues with those (at least on my end) including Nights into Dreams (US region) which for me works correctly with fast boot mode.
Actually, with the improvements in v0.2 and after all the extensive testing done by me and a few users, I'm not aware of any game that currently doesn't work with that boot mode.
I'm not saying that it is entirely outside of the realm of possibilities for some games to not work well with that mode, but simply put it's not feasible for me to test every single game in the console library to find it out.

So I think it's very likely that the issues are being caused by the rips themselves, I suggest to try ripping those games with another software, like CloneCD or CD Manipulator which is a free/open source alternative.
(the latter requires renaming the extension of header file from .CDM to .CCD for it to be recognized by the ODE)
However to guarantee perfect rips, you'd want to either follow the Sega Saturn dumping guide or use DiscImageCreator. That way track hashes can be matched against the database to confirm the dumps are fine.
Obviously what's described in that guide isn't exactly accessible for everyone, including drive requirements. So then the alternative (to save some headaches) is to obtain good dumps from another source instead.
I know this is a morally gray area, but to each their own, personally I see nothing wrong with it in this particular instance, as long as you own the discs themselves.

Another possible cause, could be the SD card itself, likely by having some high latency spikes on read access or because some sort of internal upkeep function which causes instability (common with Transcend)
So in conclusion, it's always a good idea to first try a different brand/size of SD card, just to make sure it is not at fault.

Hello Irvin, First of all I want to thank you for your work, thank you so much!! my phoebe wouldn't be as awesome as it is without your software!

Second, I retested Nights into dreams after reading your post, several times using fast boot, and it does indeed works, so my bad, maybe last time I wasn't patient enough in the loading screen (black screen).
piggychan
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(04-03-2017, 09:15 AM)
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If anyone likes the game sack guys they did a Sony Vs Saturn vid..

https://youtu.be/UXTcV5aNq_8
MikeMyers
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(04-03-2017, 09:29 AM)
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Haven't finished watching that video but the Saturn's more arcade-oriented lineup suits my tastes more.

The weak platforming lineup is kind of an Elephant in the Room, though.
oneida
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(04-03-2017, 03:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by piggychan

If anyone likes the game sack guys they did a Sony Vs Saturn vid..

https://youtu.be/UXTcV5aNq_8

if you can't play akira
don't play akira!
jacky is so fun in VF2 anyway....
blast processed
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(04-03-2017, 03:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by MikeMyers

Haven't finished watching that video but the Saturn's more arcade-oriented lineup suits my tastes more.

The weak platforming lineup is kind of an Elephant in the Room, though.

Agreed! Playstation has some great games, but the Saturn just tickles me in the right spot. Same goes for the Genesis. I just vastly prefer that to the SNES.
Galdelico
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(04-03-2017, 05:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by blast processed

Agreed! Playstation has some great games, but the Saturn just tickles me in the right spot. Same goes for the Genesis. I just vastly prefer that to the SNES.

Even as a SEGA guy myself, I believe the Mega Drive and the Super Nintendo had a much more balanced fight. Sure the latter came with heavier games (especially by the end of its life-cycle), but the MD library is just as rich, in my opinion. With the Saturn, on the other hand, the story is objectively different... Even if the guy on the right does his best to act like a bratty Sony fanboy from back then - it really brings back memories :D - the video does a good job delivering a fair judgement.
vetrox
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(04-07-2017, 05:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by Teknoman

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That copy looks mint, good for you! Does it play OK?
Eolz
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(04-09-2017, 01:10 AM)
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Got a Saturn this week, first time I own one.
I've seen before a must-have is the cartridge to play imports (don't remember the name right now) but is there anything else really recommended?
Also, I know it might be some sacrilege, but any good cable to use to plug on a modern screen until I find a good CRT?
piggychan
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(04-09-2017, 01:24 AM)
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I've forgotten how great GRANDIA looks on the SS

Last edited by piggychan; 04-09-2017 at 01:31 AM.
leroidys
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(04-09-2017, 02:45 AM)

Originally Posted by Eolz

Got a Saturn this week, first time I own one.
I've seen before a must-have is the cartridge to play imports (don't remember the name right now) but is there anything else really recommended?
Also, I know it might be some sacrilege, but any good cable to use to plug on a modern screen until I find a good CRT?

If you own a Sega Saturn and you don't own Nights, you're doing it wrong. Other than that, recommendations are going to vary by taste.
Khaz
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(04-09-2017, 02:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by Eolz

Got a Saturn this week, first time I own one.
I've seen before a must-have is the cartridge to play imports (don't remember the name right now) but is there anything else really recommended?
Also, I know it might be some sacrilege, but any good cable to use to plug on a modern screen until I find a good CRT?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-X-CR2032...-/222280037407
about a month supply
Augemitbutter
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(04-09-2017, 06:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by piggychan

I've forgotten how great GRANDIA looks on the SS

is there still no translation for the sat? it sucks we never got this....
MikeMyers
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(04-09-2017, 06:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by Eolz

Got a Saturn this week, first time I own one.
I've seen before a must-have is the cartridge to play imports (don't remember the name right now) but is there anything else really recommended?
Also, I know it might be some sacrilege, but any good cable to use to plug on a modern screen until I find a good CRT?

3D Controller if you plan on investing getting NiGHTS.

I know you're a fan of the DOA series and the Saturn has the best port of the original game, but keep in mind it is only available if you import. Other classic arcade ports you can't go wrong with are Sega Rally, Virtua Cop, and Virtua Fighter 2.

For console-original games there's Fighters Megamix, Panzer Dragoon I & II, and Die Hard Arcade.
Last edited by MikeMyers; 04-09-2017 at 10:49 AM.
blast processed
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(04-09-2017, 03:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Augemitbutter

is there still no translation for the sat? it sucks we never got this....

I would have loved a US long box version of this. Personally, I think it's better than Final Fantasy VII.
Augemitbutter
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(04-09-2017, 04:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by blast processed

I would have loved a US long box version of this. Personally, I think it's better than Final Fantasy VII.

yes, i always preferred it over FFVII.
cj_iwakura
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(04-09-2017, 08:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Augemitbutter

yes, i always preferred it over FFVII.

I personally liked Grandia 2 more. Not sure why, it just felt way more polished and unique.
Eolz
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(04-09-2017, 09:00 PM)
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Thanks for all the tips and recommendations!
Will probably skip DOA though, since the Saturn version was included in DOA:U on Xbox ahah. Will definitely look up some of those fighting games and Die Hard Arcade.
MikeMyers
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(04-09-2017, 10:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Eolz

Thanks for all the tips and recommendations!
Will probably skip DOA though, since the Saturn version was included in DOA:U on Xbox ahah. Will definitely look up some of those fighting games and Die Hard Arcade.

If you want fighting games there's also the Capcom fighters - Street Fighter Alpha 2, Vampire Hunter, Xmen vs Street Fighter, etc.
Last edited by MikeMyers; 04-09-2017 at 10:40 PM.
piggychan
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(04-10-2017, 01:55 AM)
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Just to fan even more fuel between PSX vs Saturn there is even a Digital Foundry video of said battle!

If you have already seen this then please ignore otherwise enjoy

from REZZED 2017
DF retro Saturn VS Playstation
Last edited by piggychan; 04-10-2017 at 01:58 AM.
blast processed
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(04-10-2017, 03:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by piggychan

Just to fan even more fuel between PSX vs Saturn there is even a Digital Foundry video of said battle!

If you have already seen this then please ignore otherwise enjoy

from REZZED 2017
DF retro Saturn VS Playstation

Nothing we already didn't know, but Sonic Mania sure looks like the Saturn launch title we've been waiting for. I still prefer the Saturn over the PSX
Laws00
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(04-15-2017, 01:11 PM)
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I've been posting in the retro spot but ya my Saturn came in yesterday. Region modded can play backups. I'm happy. I can retire my USA Sega Saturn now

Maybe it's my burner or the games i'm finding that have errors in them but i've run into a few games that i can't burn/play.


Got my last 13 CDs left.







Shin Johnpv
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(04-15-2017, 04:08 PM)
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That is a beautiful Saturn.
Laws00
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(04-17-2017, 12:08 PM)
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After about 20 years looking at magazines, looking at Solus and her outfit, I finally played Groove on Fight.

Had no idea it was part of the Power Instinct series or Gouketsuji Ichizoku

Not a fan. Not a fan at all. The in game animations remind me of some amateur Mugen stype stuff. All things considering I love Matrimelee but can't get into this game.

And how come it took me all this time to find out the name of the guy that does all the artwork is Range Murata lol


The weak shouldn't pronounce the name "Goketsuji".
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D.Lo
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(04-17-2017, 12:31 PM)
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I like Groove on Fight. I mean it's not top tier, and the emo style has dated, but is about 1996/1997 SNK level animation. I'm a sucker for mid-tier fighters though, I love Waku and Rabbit and Asuka.
Laws00
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(04-17-2017, 12:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by D.Lo

I like Groove on Fight. I mean it's not top tier, and the emo style has dated, but is about 1996/1997 SNK level animation. I'm a sucker for mid-tier fighters though, I love Waku and Rabbit and Asuka.

could be because I learned that it was all done by ATLUS in house people. Maybe thats why I didn't like the game lol

I need to look into this Rabbit game. It looks familiar as hell to me
sixteen-bit
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(04-17-2017, 03:05 PM)
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GoF is fun imo. I wish I could play the arcade version since it's supposed to be better (despite being a ST-V game?)
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(04-17-2017, 10:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv

That is a beautiful Saturn.

agreed, that thing is gorgeous
Leynos
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(04-17-2017, 11:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by Laws00

I've been posting in the retro spot but ya my Saturn came in yesterday. Region modded can play backups. I'm happy. I can retire my USA Sega Saturn now

Maybe it's my burner or the games i'm finding that have errors in them but i've run into a few games that i can't burn/play.


Got my last 13 CDs left.

A local game store has one also in box for, I believe, $200. I contemplated it, but thought better of it. Damned if it ain't pretty, though.
Laws00
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(04-17-2017, 11:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv

That is a beautiful Saturn.

Originally Posted by IrishNinja

agreed, that thing is gorgeous

thanks for the comments on my Saturn guys. I'm actually scared i'm going to scuff the thing. i'm using my old av cord and controller from my other one as i dont want to mess with it too much lol


Originally Posted by Leynos

A local game store has one also in box for, I believe, $200. I contemplated it, but thought better of it. Damned if it ain't pretty, though.

was online looking at pictures. Looks so damn good. vintage games from the 90s so colorful

Seik
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(04-19-2017, 11:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Teknoman

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Welcome to the Hyper Duel elite club! :D

We need to print shirts for us, five people in the world owning a copy, hah!
MikeMyers
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(04-21-2017, 08:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by blast processed

Nothing we already didn't know, but Sonic Mania sure looks like the Saturn launch title we've been waiting for. I still prefer the Saturn over the PSX

I wonder if a Saturn port would be possible. Doesn't look like the game demands too much power.
Khaz
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(04-21-2017, 12:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by MikeMyers

I wonder if a Saturn port would be possible. Doesn't look like the game demands too much power.

I don't think we could find anyone to willingly work with Saturn code
sixteen-bit
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(04-21-2017, 02:44 PM)
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I imagine there's a lot of stuff going on under the hood that exceeds the Saturn horsepower so it would probably have to be remade from scratch.
MikeMyers
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(04-22-2017, 07:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by Khaz

I don't think we could find anyone to willingly work with Saturn code

Don't underestimate the Sonic fanbase!
Laevateinn
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(04-22-2017, 03:56 PM)
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I would actually love to program for the Saturn but have never been able to properly setup a dev toolset.

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