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(03-02-2016, 06:59 PM)
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Developer/Publisher: Supercell
Platforms: iOS, Android
Worldwide Release Date: Now!
Price: Free… in theory. Freemium.
Official Forums: http://forum.supercell.net/forumdisp...7-Clash-Royale
Useful Wiki: http://clashroyale.wikia.com/wiki/Clash_Royale_Wikia

What is it? Clash Royale is a real time multiplayer game where players assemble decks of 8 cards and then use those cards to kill your opponent’s towers. You basically drop little men onto your side of the map and they automatically walk to the other side of the map and attack whatever it is they see. See this picture to get an idea:



Here’s a good description from the Wiki:


 Players square off against live competition on tiny maps dotted by six buildings; three for each player: two Arena Towers and oneKing's Tower, respectively.
 The object of the battle is to destroy the other player’s King's Tower (central building) while protecting your own.
 You’ll do this by deploying troops from a deck of cards (drawn from a Battle Deck that you’ve built) anywhere within an allowable area on the field - your territory.
 Each card requires a certain amount of Elixir to deploy, but your Elixir regenerates quickly, so you’re only ever moments away from deploying your next troop or spell.
 More cards are collected by unlocking chests won in battle or bought in the shop, which in turn will unlock new cards that you can add to your Battle Deck and level up thecards you already have.
 In the event of taking down an Arena Tower, spawn-able territory on the opponent's side is opened, available for you to deploy your Troop Cards to have an upper hand on the opponent.

How long does a game last? Games last a maximum of 4 minutes – 3 minutes a match plus 1 minute of overtime. Whoever destroys more towers wins.

How do I get more units? Chests! You get one chest with each win. The chest varies in type, and each chest takes a certain amount of time to unlock. The rarer the chest, the better the cards, and the longer it takes to unlock, with the rarest of chests taking upwards of 24 hours to unlock. You can pay gems to instantly open any chest if your heart (and wallet) desires!

Each arena level offers new cards to unlock, so if there’s a unit you want, you might have to increase your arena ranking to get it. Please check out the Wiki for more info on that.

Does this game have clans? Yup, you can join a clan of up to 50 people. You can do practices matches against your clanmates. You can also request cards from, and donate cards to, your clanmates. There’s a limit on the requests and donations. Donations are important because it’s an easy way to get gold and experience points. At some point I think they are going to have clan battles, but for now, clans just compete against each other on the rankings.

Is there a GAF clan? We have at least five active clans: NeoGAF, Neogaf, GAF, GAF Royale, Neogaf Elite. Search for them in-game (and mention you are from GAF) or post in this thread to see who has space or ask for them to make space.

How do I level up my tower? You need experience points to level your tower, and you do NOT get experience points for winning. You get experience points from leveling up your cards or from donating cards to clanmates.

What do I do when I am full on chests? If you don’t want to gem chests to finish them instantly, you can still play the game for fun, to climb arena ranks, etc. You also get gold from your wins, so keep playing!

How Pay2Win is it? Paying gives you stronger cards (up to a point), no question. However, there are some people have reached the highest arena ranking as totally free to play players. After a certain point, skill matters more than cards. There's not a huge difference in power between a level 7 card and a level 8 card. That said, all of the top ranks are filled with people who have paid dearly for that position, i.e., in the thousands of dollars range.

This is enough to get the OT started. I've been playing daily since soft launch and am obsessed with the game, so I figured that an OT was in order.



Tips from the Breezy:

Originally Posted by BreezyLimbo

ALRIGHT

OPENING OF THE GAME AND YOU!!

So when you start a match, the most important thing is to look at your options, and wait. There are various openings depending on what type of deck you're running, but we'll get into that later. The first thing you want to do is wait. Save up your Elixir. Only react to an opponents move. If you're getting full to Elixir, try dropping a slow unit behind your main castle to buffer the time of your opponent dropping a card. This is also advantageous to you, I'll go into it. Now, your opponent my try to all in a lane or wait to drop units like you are. That's no problem, because if you drop a slow unit, you're maximizing on your elixir and your opponent isn't. If you react, you're maximizing on your elixir and your opponent is it. The only way to put yourself in a disadvantage is if you drop a unit to try and attack one of their towers. This tips the scale into their favor.

THE SCALE, TOWERS, AND YOU!

Think of the map of the game as a scale. When you put a unit on your side, the scale tips into your favor. But the second that unit crosses into your opponents side, then they have the advantage if they can react to this. This is the Tower buffer.

THOSE NEFARIOUS TOWERS!

There are two ways to approach the tower. One, they are something you have to defend. Or two, they are there to defend you. I prefer the latter, since offense is greatly rewarded in this game. So what is the tower buffer? It's simple, when an opposing unit crosses to your side, they start getting pelted by arrows. They may even attack your tower! But this is ok. You want this, because it gives you unit advantage. If you drop a ranged unit behind your tower, then you're able to cost efficiently take out their unit and you end up having the elixir advantage on your side of things. Not only that, but because units tend to stop to attack, that means you can create a huge wave of units on your side, while their units died by crossing to your side. So use your tower offensively, that is, if it's full health don't be afraid to let your enemy attack it, even if it's with a prince or pekka. As long as you gain the advantage on units, then it's worth it.

SCALE BACK TO THAT SCALE.

This is all represented in what I like to call the 'Scale'. Think of a physical scale, evenly balanced, only moving when a unit is dropped on a side. If you have a unit on your side, your scale is heavier and thus stronger than the opposing side. If your opponent has a unit cross over to your scale, then you still have the advantage because of your tower. The trick to being able to overpower their side is to have them throw units at you, and for your units to overpower them and them spill over to their side.

For example, let's say they throw a giant. The second it hits your side, drop your units next to your tower so they have to walk up to the Giant, and don't put them close to the giant because they can counter with their own units behind the giant. The Giant will probably take a bit to take out, so you're growing elixir while your own units are attacking the giant, meaning when he goes down you can start an offense with your stack of units. Because a giant takes a while to take down, that means that you have time to still have elixir reserves to enforce your offense and overpower their tower and their reactions.

KNOWING YOUR OPPONENTS DECK
It's also important to try and 'count' your opponents deck. Each deck has 8 cards, and in a match you tend to use each card once. Low costs let you cycle faster, high costs can be a bit harder to predict but can prove advantageous. Either way, knowing what your opponent can drop can help you tip the scale of power. If they just used a fireball, chances are they can't react with another fireball immediately unless they have a mirror. Dropping your Barbarians right after a fireball can be better than blindly dropping them even in a defensive position. Sometimes you can try baiting card drops, IE you have a Knight+Musketeer combo you want to use, but dropping your goblins and skeletons might scare him into using a fireball.

Knowing the costs of cards is important to in reacting. If they drop a PEKKA behind their castle, then you know they just used 7 elixir and only have 3-4 elixir to react, or if they dropped a Golem then they just used 9 elixir and are open to attack. Keeping mental note of values is helpful in knowing when to counter attack and where. Dragon And Prince is 9 elixir, Skele Giant and Musketeer is 10, etc. If you know you have a response ready for when those units come to your side, then dropping a Prince on the opposing side can effectively win you the game.

OPENING MOVES AND Y O U!

This is the deck part of the strategy. There are various decks. Low, high, mid cost, hut decks, giant decks, zerg decks, either way what kind of deck you have will determined your opening move, and to an essence what cards you have in your starting hand. If you have the Elixir card, usually you want to drop that immediately and drop it in front of your castle. The first reason is because you want it to start producing elixir immediately. The 2nd, if they make a mistake in a fireball or Rocket, they might end up hitting your castle, thus activating its defenses and passively making your towers stronger because it aims that far.

For hut decks, opening with a barbarian Hut is common, but you might want to wait until you have a goblin hut out to make the most of it. Hut decks run counter to a reactionary deck, in that it's always attacking one side, and it can build up if your opponent is playing reactionary. In essence-Hut decks counter reactionary players, and reactionary players have to play offensively to counter a hut deck even if it seems disadvantageous.

As for other Card openings, dropping a fat slow unit behind your castle when you get close to 10 elixir lets you remain defensive while telling an opponent "I have this here, are you going to react to it?". So let's say we drop a PEKKA that will go down the right side. Your opponent will either save cards to stop him, or immediately attack your other side, in which case you can still reaction and put him at a disadvantage. But it also gives you time to build elixir as the PEKKA travels down, and once it reaches the river crossing you can drop heavy support on it OR pull a fast one and attack the opposite lane at the same time, and this can cause your opponent to make mistakes trying to stop both or try and all in that PEKKA, giving a free opportunity to take a tower. This type of strat can be used mid game also, dropping a slow unit behind your castle 1 minute in can be advantageous because by then you know what your opponent has and can counter it, and it lets you create a ball of units.

CARDS AND DECK BUILDS

So let's look at deck builds. A deck with Golem or PEKKA needs to be supported by either The Elixir Generator, or low level cards like Goblins, Archers, Knight because you have to be able to react and support your PEKKA. Bomb Skeletons are powerful for their cost, able to wreck groups of barbarians if placed behind your pekka. Goblins can do work either at range or melee. Usually a fireball or arrows is necessary to be able to counter minions, since your anti air will be your weakest part.

Giants are good as meatshields, and common in mid-cost decks, but their effectiveness varies. Skeleton giants are good for having a big explosion at the end, and good at countering Pekkas or Barbarians because of that. Regular Giants are great if you can build a ball of units behind them, but because they're single minded they'll die fast if you can't defend it. Royal Giants..................we don't talk about them. Other mid-cost supporting cards are hog rider, Prince, Baby Dragon, Witch. All good for specific things, either gunning down a turret, creating a threat that can deal major damage, countering mass units, or creating units whilst having decent aoe spam. Witches can be treated like heavy units, in that you spawn them behind your castle so they can build up skeletons. Princes you want to use to counter assault a lane, baby dragons in conjunction with an air balloon can devastate a lane if your opponent isn't careful, and hog riders are good at diverting an opponents attention from another lane or doubling down on taking down a tower.

Low cost decks tend to be about the unit spam, capping out at barbarians or Giant, and having cards like Knight, bomb marauder, skeleton army, goblins and archers as well as minions. In conjunction with freeze or rage you can deal high damage extremely fast and unexpectedly.

Some staple cards are arrows and fireball. Able to counter low cost units immediately, at an area is great. Fireballs are good for the slightly heavier units, like Barbarians, huts, or towers. The lightning spell is also good to have for taking down towers or huts, or mid-cost units like Valkyrie/minipekka. The Zap spell is decent for stunning and at a low cost, it's also good at taking out skeletons or lower health units. It can also stun magma towers, resetting their damage gains.

Spell cards are useful in any situation. Freeze, Rage, and Poison are all great. Personally I'm favoring Poison right now, because it's a huge area of effect, it slows, and does damage while units are in it. Freeze is good in rush decks, or in combination with hog rider. Rage is good in decks where you can get a little mass of units going, but I don't see it as much. Lightning and Zap I mentioned above.

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So that's it. Go out there and get trophies n' stuff!

Nirolak
Mrgrgr
(03-02-2016, 07:02 PM)
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Are the cards consumables or permanent deck additions?
jon bones
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(03-02-2016, 07:02 PM)
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cards are perm, no terrible f2p hooks off the bat

this game is fun so far, we'll see how it plays out over a week
commish
Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
(03-02-2016, 07:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nirolak

Are the cards consumables or permanent deck additions?

Permanent. Think of it like Hearthstone/Magic/etc., except your cards are leveled up by collecting more of the cards. It takes... a lot... to fully level cards, so unless you spend $15k, no one will have fully leveled cards, which evens the playing field.
Rlan
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(03-02-2016, 07:03 PM)
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Been playing it through its soft launch, incredibly fun game.
Nirolak
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(03-02-2016, 07:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by jon bones

cards are perm, no terrible f2p hooks off the bat

this game is fun so far, we'll see how it plays out over a week

Originally Posted by commish

Permanent. Think of it like Hearthstone/Magic/etc., except your cards are leveled up by collecting more of the cards. It takes... a lot... to fully level cards, so unless you spend $15k, no one will have fully leveled cards, which evens the playing field.

That sounds pretty reasonable for a mobile title. I'll check it out later. Thanks.
FarEastOfTengai
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(03-02-2016, 07:05 PM)
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There is a Neogaf clan. Put in a request to join. See a lot of familiar names in it.
commish
Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
(03-02-2016, 07:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by FarEastOfTengai

There is a Neogaf clan. Put in a request to join. See a lot of familiar names in it.

What's it called? I'll update the OP.
FarEastOfTengai
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(03-02-2016, 07:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by commish

What's it called? I'll update the OP.

NeoGAF =p
Matush
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(03-02-2016, 07:10 PM)
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Anyone having problem with Google Play sign-in?

Also those waiting times for opening chests are crazy high.
Kitoro
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(03-02-2016, 07:14 PM)
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Blech.. The art style is atrocious to me. How could a company that makes so much money put out a new game that looks like this?

Maybe it's just me...
doop_
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(03-02-2016, 07:19 PM)
Really enjoying it. Feels a bit slow though
Requested to join the clan.
Quonny
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(03-02-2016, 07:30 PM)
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Man this is really fun. I came back from two towers down to win against someone with units I've never seen.
commish
Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
(03-02-2016, 07:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Quonny

Man this is really fun. I came back from two towers down to win against someone with units I've never seen.

When first starting out, it's helpful to watch the replays available in the game. You can learn what the units do, how best to counter them, etc.
SUBZERO-08
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(03-02-2016, 08:16 PM)
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Nice to see a thread. Been in the clan for a week or so now and have been having a lot of fun with the game.
hollomat
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(03-02-2016, 08:58 PM)
Seems like a lot of fun so far. Won my first 3 battles and just waiting for the chests to open. As soon as I get level 3, I'll apply to the GAF clan.
Gala
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(03-02-2016, 09:28 PM)
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Just applied to the GAF clan.
jon bones
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(03-02-2016, 09:29 PM)
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anyone know what the premium currency should be saved for?
Brakara
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(03-02-2016, 09:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by jon bones

anyone know what the premium currency should be saved for?

Personally, I spend gems on gold, and gold for upgrades and the occasional new card, but I've no idea if that's optimal. This guide says:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale...hroyale_guide/

4. What to do with gold / gems?

Obviously spend gold to upgrade your units to make them stronger and get xp. But do not upgrade the units you do not play , except you are close to leveling up. Save up the gold, in case there is something really good in the gold shop (Freezing Spell, X-bows, ...). You really do not want to be low on the gold count and then see something you really wanted in the shop.

Spend gems only for chests or gold if you need. Do not open chests with gems! Save up the gems to buy the mystical chest, since it's the most valuable one. [Edit: thanks /u/Car_On_Roof] If you look for specific epics, consider buying gold with gems to purchase the ones you need from the shop.

NemesisHunter
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(03-02-2016, 09:41 PM)
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Very fun: Supercell somehow managed to create a mobile/lightweight version of DOTA/League of Legends and Heartstone all in one.

Cards offer up a lot of variety and strategies in terms of playstyle.

Some general tips I've learned throughout the Android soft launch:
- Gold should be saved for direct shop purchases (Commons, Rares and Epics) and leveling your most used cards. Do not use them on cards you don't use, because gold becomes the limiting resource in the later portion of the game.
- Don't buy more than the first epic card of the shop (price jumps up from 2k gold for the first to 3k+ for the second card). It'll rotate back in eventually.
- Each player can have different shop items on display: take advantage of this by buying commons at 5 gold and under, and the first rare card. You can trade them to your clanmates at a profit or break even in terms of gold.
- For f2p players, gems are better used to buy additional gold with 'em. Use it to buy cards in the shop.

Donate, donate, donate! You get gold for your trades: if you need the card back, just ask for it again.
Dante
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(03-02-2016, 09:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kitoro

Blech.. The art style is atrocious to me. How could a company that makes so much money put out a new game that looks like this?

Maybe it's just me...


It's just you. The games look has a very broad appeal and it's executed really well. Hell the game is already #7 top grossing on iOS a few hours after launch so they are obviously doing something right.
Ferny
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(03-02-2016, 09:50 PM)
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Loving the game so far. Gonna hit 3 and join the GAF guild.
commish
Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
(03-02-2016, 09:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by NemesisHunter

Very fun: Supercell somehow managed to create a mobile/lightweight version of DOTA/League of Legends and Heartstone all in one.

Cards offer up a lot of variety and strategies in terms of playstyle.

Some general tips I've learned throughout the Android soft launch:
- Gold should be saved for direct shop purchases (Commons, Rares and Epics) and leveling your most used cards. Do not use them on cards you don't use, because gold becomes the limiting resource in the later portion of the game.
- Don't buy more than the first epic card of the shop (price jumps up from 2k gold for the first to 3k+ for the second card). It'll rotate back in eventually.
- Each player can have different shop items on display: take advantage of this by buying commons at 5 gold and under, and the first rare card. You can trade them to your clanmates at a profit or break even in terms of gold.
- For f2p players, gems are better used to buy additional gold with 'em. Use it to buy cards in the shop.

Donate, donate, donate! You get gold for your trades: if you need the card back, just ask for it again.

Agree with all this. I know some folks have an aversion to donating because it seems like you are giving away your cards, but the experience and gold you get for donating really do add up and make a big difference.
Brazil
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(03-02-2016, 09:58 PM)
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Anyone else stuck on 50% while loading the game?

I'm on the latest iOS, playing on an iPhone 6 Plus, by the way.

Edit: Oh, nevermind. It's just my office's WiFi blocking some ports or whatever.
AndyD
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(03-02-2016, 10:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dante

It's just you. The games look has a very broad appeal and it's executed really well. Hell the game is already #7 top grossing on iOS a few hours after launch so they are obviously doing something right.

It looks OK, what it needs is a little more life in the arenas, a little less flat textures. The characters are fine, but the backgrounds have a washed out look for some reason.
Karu
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(03-02-2016, 10:27 PM)
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Played Clash of Clans for a few weeks last year and was very impressed by the business model, the horror stories you here about "shitgames" like that are totally overblown. Naturally I got CR today and while it's fun, the fact that you have to manually select a treasure to start the countdown is stupid. Otherwise looks like a very fun game.
Baroquemantic
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(03-02-2016, 10:34 PM)
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I've been playing this all day. Very fun. Glad to see a GAF clan.
TheExodu5
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(03-02-2016, 10:34 PM)
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Trying to join the clan, but it says unable to join. I've been playing since the Canada soft launch. Not sure what's up.
TheExodu5
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(03-02-2016, 10:37 PM)
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Apparently it's because the clan has at least 10 join requests pending. Get through em!
Baroquemantic
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(03-02-2016, 10:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by TheExodu5

Trying to join the clan, but it says unable to join. I've been playing since the Canada soft launch. Not sure what's up.

Originally Posted by TheExodu5

Apparently it's because the clan has at least 10 join requests pending. Get through em!

Ah, I see. I was wondering why I couldn't join.
midasmulligan
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(03-02-2016, 10:40 PM)
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Invite pretty please: Midasmulligan
commish
Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
(03-02-2016, 10:57 PM)
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Who is actually running the GAF clan?
TheExodu5
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(03-02-2016, 10:58 PM)
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No one apparently. There's one leader and two elders.
Ferny
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(03-02-2016, 11:06 PM)
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Someone remake?
CzarTim
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(03-02-2016, 11:47 PM)
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Yeah clans can only have like 50 people. Silly.
Quonny
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(03-02-2016, 11:55 PM)
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Is matchmaking based on your trophies?

Because if so the game actually punishes you for playing with no chest slots open. That's dumb.
commish
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(03-02-2016, 11:58 PM)
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Great write-up about how to spend gems, written by the top player.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale...by_a_1_player/
Dante
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(03-03-2016, 12:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by AndyD

It looks OK, what it needs is a little more life in the arenas, a little less flat textures. The characters are fine, but the backgrounds have a washed out look for some reason.

I think that's for readability at a small scale, remember a lot of people play this on a small phone (assuming you may be on a tablet) As for more life I suspect that adding more ambient animations, while cool could be visually noisy especially when the game board gets really busy with units.

What are the benefits of being in a clan in this game?
gr4ndm4st3r.bl4ck
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(03-03-2016, 12:52 AM)
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Tried to join the clan, game says "can't join the clan". Does level matter, since I'm level 3 atm?

Edit : nevermind, I just read that it's because it has too much requests pending already. I'm probably never getting in anyway then.
CodeNfX
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(03-03-2016, 01:03 AM)
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Looks interesting. I will give it a try.
commish
Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
(03-03-2016, 01:53 AM)
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Originally Posted by gr4ndm4st3r.bl4ck

Tried to join the clan, game says "can't join the clan". Does level matter, since I'm level 3 atm?

Edit : nevermind, I just read that it's because it has too much requests pending already. I'm probably never getting in anyway then.

Hm if there's interest maybe we should create a second clan.
john tv
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(03-03-2016, 03:10 AM)
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We have a few obviously no-longer-playing peeps in the clan too; is there a way to boot inactive people?
Ferny
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(03-03-2016, 04:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by john tv

We have a few obviously no-longer-playing peeps in the clan too; is there a way to boot inactive people?

Yeah leaders and elders can do it I'm sure.

I had a bunch of gold since I used my gems for gold anyway and created a second clan. Name is GAF. Commish, you can get privileges to invite, kick, whatever if you would like as well. #QYYQCQ

We could always use it as overflow since it's 50 per anyway.
Clunker
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(03-03-2016, 06:06 AM)
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I'm really liking this so far - the Hearthstone meets Heroes of the Storm comparison is stunningly apt. I'm waiting for all four chests to pop now, but at 4-6 games a day that's actually perfect for my schedule lately!

I'm still bummed that Fates Forever apparently disappeared, as that was my go-to mobile MOBA for months back when I had an iPad mini. :(

I'd love to join an overflow GAF guild if one exists; I haven't hit lv 3 yet but likely will in a day or two.
VeeP
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(03-03-2016, 06:16 AM)
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I want to join the NeoGAF Clan but it says invite only, who do I talk to to get in lol?

Edit: Nvm, I just sent a request to join.

If anyone is thinking about downloading this game I recommend it. It's really fun, easy to play, and quick.
BurritoBushido
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(03-03-2016, 06:18 AM)
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Mobile game of the century. Been playing since soft launch
Ferny
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(03-03-2016, 06:19 AM)
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The first clan not sure who is leading it or whatever so I made the Second Clan/Overflow.

Search 'GAF' and request to join. Just post in here when you do so it's not just a bunch of randoms.
Xeteh
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(03-03-2016, 08:16 AM)
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I like this game a lot more than I expected. It is a lot of fun, not sure how I'm really doing though, kind of just spamming units.
Shady859
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(03-03-2016, 08:27 AM)
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Having fun but seems they are taking another step towards rewarding causals and inviting cash cows. Almost to level 3 but no reason to play waiting for chests. :/
Azusa
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(03-03-2016, 08:28 AM)
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I don't like this art style but it's fun. Can't stop playing.

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