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Nintendo gets Monolith Soft from Bandai-Namco
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jj984jj said:
I noticed that too. Makes me wonder...
I'm sure that tri-Crescendo wouldn't mind making a huge Wii RPG published by Nintendo, especially if it's heavily marketed. And with Nintendo buying MonolithSoft ALONG with the BK franchise makes me think that that's what's going to happen.
I still want to know about Xenosaga though, even though I could really care less. X3 was a great ending.
From the way the press release and the Japanese news articles about the sale go, I'm pretty sure Nintendo did *not* acquire any IPs. But that doesn't matter, because this isn't a simple "sell and dump" deal.
The reason for the sale given by Bandai Namco is that Monolithsoft was funded and created as a development studio to plan and develop game design concepts. What they feel is that recently, Monolithsoft's relationship has grown and it would be beneficial to the studio to work more closely with Nintendo to further develop their ideas and plans. Meanwhile even after the sale, Bandai Namco will continue their working relationship with Monolithsoft as a business partner.
You can assume that to mean whatever you want to.
The reason for the sale given by Bandai Namco is that Monolithsoft was funded and created as a development studio to plan and develop game design concepts. What they feel is that recently, Monolithsoft's relationship has grown and it would be beneficial to the studio to work more closely with Nintendo to further develop their ideas and plans. Meanwhile even after the sale, Bandai Namco will continue their working relationship with Monolithsoft as a business partner.
You can assume that to mean whatever you want to.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Yamauchi said:
I don't mind, Nintendo needs a traditional RPG company since Camelot is doing other stuff. Since Monolithsoft is basically a first party company it would be interesting to see if they continue making traditional RPG's under the Nintendo name.
What would be more interesting is if they will continue the heavy handed storytelling like the Xenosaga series or if they will make more lighthearted fare like Chrono Trigger, Grandia, or Lunar.
fly high ~ayunite~
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I'm pretty sure that Nintendo would recieve the BK license if they haven't already got it. They did publish BK2 after all, Namco don't seem too interested in the series.
jj984jj said:
for those who asked:
"Op.", which is a abbreviation of " Opus", means "work" as in a piece of art. It is used only in classical music works, as far as I know.
Op.1 means it's tri-crescendo's " Work Nr. 1 ", meaning it's their first game.
for example, Chopin " Etudes Op. 10 " is a set of 12 piano pieces that were sent to print and the whole collection is called " Etudes Op. 10 " , that way you know the series of pieces is the 10th work in Chopin's catalogue of compositions.
I hope it's understandable.
duckroll said:From the way the press release and the Japanese news articles about the sale go, I'm pretty sure Nintendo did *not* acquire any IPs. But that doesn't matter, because this isn't a simple "sell and dump" deal.
The reason for the sale given by Bandai Namco is that Monolithsoft was funded and created as a development studio to plan and develop game design concepts. What they feel is that recently, Monolithsoft's relationship has grown and it would be beneficial to the studio to work more closely with Nintendo to further develop their ideas and plans. Meanwhile even after the sale, Bandai Namco will continue their working relationship with Monolithsoft as a business partner.
You can assume that to mean whatever you want to.
Thanks Duckroll. That makes me slightly less confident in a BK sequel, but at least we know that Monolith has been developing extensively for either the Wii or DS for a while now.
jj984jj said:
I think, this is the first project they have done all by themselves, without monolith, nintendo or anyone else. I also believe that this project was financed by microsft long ago when they thought they had a shot at conquering Japan. Don't want to sound pessimistic but after Trusty Bell, microsoft seems to be in an attitude of wrapping up their stuff and giving up hopes of having a relevant presence in Japan.
That being said, I am not sure if Tri-crescendo will have a 2nd chance for a big project they can call " Op. 2 " .... maybe a desperate Sony needing nice japanese RPGS will finance their second work.
I do see Baten Kaitos for DS happening, now that Monolith is owned by nintendo and I am VERY happy with that.
Visualante
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I thought this was the Monolith who did the Matrix MMO. I am an idiot.
MaddenNFL64
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Who owns the Golden Sun IP? If Nintendo does, maybe give MonSoft a crack at it.
Hcoregamer00
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Durante said:
I am not saying that they are equal, I said that they are equally lighthearted in how they present the story and adventure.
Talladega Knight
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Or Startropics.MaddenNFL64 said:
underfooter
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This is the same team doing Disaster: Day of Crisis am I right?
Bandai wanted to merge with Sega as far back as the Saturn launch (their hope was to become #2 or 3 in the videogame hardware biz), but they kept putting it off and watching Sega get cheaper until Sammy grabbed them.Mr. Pointy said:
Then Nintendo and Bandai's bank arranged for Nintendo to buy 2.7% of Bandai, which doesn't seem like a lot, but Bandai's shares are really spread out, and even the son of the company founder only had 5%, so it put Nintendo in the top ten shareholders. The bank and Bandai's president/CEO were both urging the founder's son to sell 2% of his shares to Nintendo, giving them 4.7% and putting Nintendo in charge of Bandai, but he thought merging with/selling to Nintendo would anger Sony, so he refused.
Then Bandai merged with Namco, with a 57/43 split, so Nintendo owns/owned 1.539% of Namco-Bandai, but I think Namco's shares were held in larger amounts by fewer people, so Namco basically controls Namco-Bandai.
Conrad Link
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If Nintendo felt there was value in getting Baten Kaitos along with it I'm guessing they would have tried for it, its not like Namco are ever going to use it again so it can't have been much of a deal breaker.
If Nintendo did get BK then shows they want to keep the series going.
If Nintendo did get BK then
shows they want to keep the series going.duckroll said:MS has nothing to do with Trusty Bell. I don't know where this keeps coming from, but the game is 100% a Bandai Namco game.
I am definitely not sure if what I think is the truth but I think it's obvious and the japanese 360 core + Trusty Bell bundle points in that direction.
It's Blue Dragon all over again.
You can say " It's 100% Mistwalker "... well yeah, but with whose money?
jj984jj said:
I may be speaking nonsense, but this is how I think it goes.
they were some fees microsoft itself had to pay in regards to blue dragon. They had to pay to assure the following:
.- the game stayed exclusive.
.- the game was of some specific lenght.
.- the game was of a genre popular with japanese audiences.
.- the game had stellar production values (graphics, voice acting, etc. ).
.- the game was released in a timely manner, ( which translated into mistwalker postponing his ASH game for DS, by the way)
you just don't go to a developer and ask politely " could we have a stellar game from you, please? ". You pay for that.
again, I am not sure how it works, I am open to being corrected if needed.
You're completely mistaken. Blue Dragon is a Microsoft Games Studio game. It's first party. Mistwalker is just the developer. In this case, Trusty Bell's developer is Tri-Crescendo. The publisher is Bandai Namco Games. It has nothing to do with Microsoft Games Studio.
Do you get it yet? There's a PUBLISHER who pays for the development of a game, and there's a DEVELOPER who makes the game. In the case of Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Infinite Undiscovery, Gears of War, Mass Effect and Too human - Microsoft Games Studio is the PUBLISHER. They're paying for the development of the game, they're not paying a "fee" but they're paying for EVERYTHING. And when they game sells, the profit is theirs. The developers are Mistwalker/Artoon, Mistwalker/Feel Plus, Tri-Ace, Epic, Bioware and Silicon Knights respectively. Yes, it is so simple as going up to a developer and saying "Hey make a game for us, we're paying!".
In the case of Trusty Bell, Idolmaster and Culdcept Saga - the publisher is Bandai Namco Games. They're paying for the development and the developers are Tri-Crescendo, Namco and Omiyasoft respectively.
Do you get it yet?
Do you get it yet? There's a PUBLISHER who pays for the development of a game, and there's a DEVELOPER who makes the game. In the case of Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Infinite Undiscovery, Gears of War, Mass Effect and Too human - Microsoft Games Studio is the PUBLISHER. They're paying for the development of the game, they're not paying a "fee" but they're paying for EVERYTHING. And when they game sells, the profit is theirs. The developers are Mistwalker/Artoon, Mistwalker/Feel Plus, Tri-Ace, Epic, Bioware and Silicon Knights respectively. Yes, it is so simple as going up to a developer and saying "Hey make a game for us, we're paying!".
In the case of Trusty Bell, Idolmaster and Culdcept Saga - the publisher is Bandai Namco Games. They're paying for the development and the developers are Tri-Crescendo, Namco and Omiyasoft respectively.
Do you get it yet?
duckroll said:You're completely mistaken. Blue Dragon is a Microsoft Games Studio game. It's first party. Mistwalker is just the developer. In this case, Trusty Bell's developer is Tri-Crescendo. The publisher is Bandai Namco Games. It has nothing to do with Microsoft Games Studio.
I suspect there were some moneyhats involved.
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duckroll said:
Isn't Trusty Bell getting a PS3 release? I thought the ESRB leaked that one.
duckroll said:You're completely mistaken. Blue Dragon is a Microsoft Games Studio game. It's first party. Mistwalker is just the developer. In this case, Trusty Bell's developer is Tri-Crescendo. The publisher is Bandai Namco Games. It has nothing to do with Microsoft Games Studio.
Do you get it yet? There's a PUBLISHER who pays for the development of a game, and there's a DEVELOPER who makes the game. In the case of Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Infinite Undiscovery, Gears of War, Mass Effect and Too human - Microsoft Games Studio is the PUBLISHER. They're paying for the development of the game, they're not paying a "fee" but they're paying for EVERYTHING. And when they game sells, the profit is theirs. The developers are Mistwalker/Artoon, Mistwalker/Feel Plus, Tri-Ace, Epic, Bioware and Silicon Knights respectively. Yes, it is so simple as going up to a developer and saying "Hey make a game for us, we're paying!".
In the case of Trusty Bell, Idolmaster and Culdcept Saga - the publisher is Bandai Namco Games. They're paying for the development and the developers are Tri-Crescendo, Namco and Omiyasoft respectively.
Do you get it yet?
I knew everything you said before reading your post.
My point was that most likely, microsoft made negotiations ( which include but are not limited moneyhats, night parties, hookers, everything that brings pleasure, etc.) to keep the game as it is.
We will NEVER know about this kind of negotiations taking place but they sure happen.
Dragona Akehi
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duckroll said:
So ducky, where's your receipt of BKII btw? I don't think I've seen it yet.
Dragona Akehi
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duckroll said:I don't buy shitty games.
We aren't talking about Xenosaga right now.
Dragona Akehi said:
Oh right, whoops. I dunno though, I don't think I'm going to buy BKO for a looooong time. I'll like to eventually get it, but I don't even have my GC at the moment.
Let's face it, BK2 was released (both in US and in Japan) at possibly the worst time ever on the wrong system. I'm just going to play Trusty Bell instead.
vanguardian1
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Darnit, I really gotta get Xenosaga III... and finish Baten Kaitos Origins... and Super Paper Mario. At least I can be sure they're all better than Final Fantasy XII.
vanguardian1
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So a simple downgrade of the graphics is all that would be needed for a Wii version.
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