Devolution
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Cracked: 3 Mistakes Women Make When Dealing With Men
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Speak for yourself.
Women can't think for themselves. The best way to get a girl is to get other women interested in you, go clubbing with women, have an attractive friend to sing your praises in nights out, no word of a lie be seen walking down the street with a girl will get you more attention.
Am I missing something here?
Vermillion
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Many guys don't find promiscuity attractive...
Despite my objections, many guys I talk to find it disturbing. Especially when the women use their body for getting men. "Put your hand on my tits," "all of this can be yours if you ______."
For those who say women enjoy sex as much as we do... well, testosterone.
I honestly don't know one way or the other. Only the last line is what I submit as a thought...
Despite my objections, many guys I talk to find it disturbing. Especially when the women use their body for getting men. "Put your hand on my tits," "all of this can be yours if you ______."
For those who say women enjoy sex as much as we do... well, testosterone.
I honestly don't know one way or the other. Only the last line is what I submit as a thought...
IMO, the most common mistake we do is thinking that men can understand what we want without saying anything.
Yeah right...
If I want something from my BF, I tell him directly, If I'm angry at him for something I tell him exactly why. If I want a present... well I buy it myself. Life is way easier like this and we avoid useless conflicts.
Yeah right...
If I want something from my BF, I tell him directly, If I'm angry at him for something I tell him exactly why. If I want a present... well I buy it myself. Life is way easier like this and we avoid useless conflicts.
But is that what you'd settle down with? Which I think is the point with the promiscuity stuff.
It would certainly be a fun ride, but I wouldn't purchase it.
You are the 1%.
Devolution
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Women don't enjoy sex as much? I fucking love orgasms.
Vermillion
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Look at Dating-Age.
What does a man have to do to get laid?
A woman really just has to show up where guys are.
Not that I'm saying a woman should be called any derogatory names for it... just that I can kind of understand why respect is given to a man who gets laid often. It takes work.
Your friend is dumb
Best advice for people dating: If you are excited, act excited
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Treat others the way you'd like to be treated
The alternative is wasting time with people who don't like you that much
Devolution
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It takes work for the very same reasons you're judging women. Lul oops.
Just because someone has sex a lot, it doesn't mean that they're "tainted"
I just don't get this whole need to have someone innocent and pure in this day and age. What's the point of having some girl that doesn't even know where to start looking to find your dick? Hell, a person has a healthy sex life is more likely to have a good relationship anyways.
Vermillion
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That has always been what got me...
Women have the better orgasms, yet men are often more sex-crazy (that's what I meant by that). That's due to testosterone.
I'm pretty sure he's talking about "Ho to housewife" not someone who has had sex before.
Dude...
Think about the context of the conversation.
Men have to "work"to get laid, because women are shamed for having too much sex with too many people.
It's not like vibrators gotta buy women flowers.
RiccochetJ
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You really need to get off the internet advice columns.
I understand the ho to housewife thing... but that works both ways too. And it ends just as badly on the female side as well.
More times than not the writing is on the wall in each scenario. If someone shows every sign of not wanting to settle down, what are you going to do? Talk them into loving you? Fixing them? Showing them the light? That's a sad and sorry road no matter which lane you're driving in.
This is a tired argument and you know it Devo.
Devolution
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Well I think I'm just going in a circle now.
It's not about innocence and purity. If I have two equally attractive woman lined up who I am going to choose from to have a relationship with, do I pick the one that has less partners and has shown to want a committed relationship or the other girl who sleeps with multiple guys a week, has lots of one night stands and finds such behavior endearing?
What are the risks associated with each choice? You have to admit that the latter girl has a much higher risk in many areas: potential STD's, loyalty issues, commitment issues etc. etc. Frankly I can't see how a person doesn't have at least some negative thoughts when honestly assessing if they want a relationship with a woman like the latter.
No fair, JokerofSpades is a special case.
Vermillion
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I'll accept that. But I'm just saying that's why men are given respect for it.
This is just the same bullshit argument, with both sides saying the same bullshit as always.
why are you trying to have a committed relationship with somebody that has a history of not wanting a committed relationship, and shows no interest in it
The last part shows that this is clearly a slanted argument in your eyes before it even hits your keyboard.
Devolution
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Or you were just proven wrong and you have nothing to else to say.
marathonfool
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There is no fit all situation. The serial monogamous dater can easily have as many or more undesirable traits than a sexually open woman. There is no such thing as quantifying desirability through number of partners or lack thereof.
Yup. The sad thing is I see it happen way too much on both sides. They wanna be in a relationship Monday-Thursday but when Friday rolls around and they want to be out in the street like they're single. The fact is, if I see a chick out there every weekend with a different guy , I'm not going to be an idiot and pretend that behavior is going to stop just because I caught some feelings. While it CAN happen, personal experience tells me it's not likely to happen.
Vermillion
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At least I pleaded ignorance to begin with.
And I'm espousing the views of my peers - this is what many guys and girls have said, despite my attempt to push other views.
I'm not going to not ask questions (however you may find them) or state viewpoints just because of people like you. Because otherwise, I'm just parroting what people on the internet say to people I actually interact with IRL.
Black Mamba
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How was I proven wrong? I said it was a tired argument because it is. I never agreed with what Joker said. This argument always goes the same way, somebody bitches that if a woman sleeps around she's a whore meanwhile if a guy does it he's some kind of fucking hero. That's all that ever happens in this argument, then you have some people trying to prove the other is wrong with the same bullshit arguments, women insist that there exists a double standard while men feel otherwise. It's a tired argument that has been talked about too many times to count.
Vermillion
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While I'm noting these things that people around me say:
- Vaginas do become loose
- Vaginas do become loose
This whole thing is a tired argument, dude.
I don't know why you'd pick that out specifically.
I know this whole argument is tired, it's what I said.
Your honestly telling me not a single negative though would cross your mind when considering a person for a relationship with a history such as described by the OP's link?
I find it Lmost impossible to believe.
true, but to deny that what is described in the OP wouldn't be off putting and undesirable in a potential relationship partner to an overwhelming majority of people is being blind. Sure the more monogamous person may end up the worse chose, but I think all other things being equal 99% of men are choosing her over the overly promiscuous girl. Do you not agree?
RiccochetJ
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I guess it's ok to say nasty things about women if you attribute them to 'what people around me say'?
This is the equivalent of saying you have a black friend as you spout racist propaganda.
My thoughts...
3. Chicks that play hard to get aren't worth the effort. There's no point in banging your head against a brick wall over and over. For every difficult chick, there's 10 that aren't a complete pain in the ass to work with.
2. I don't even know how to neg properly (so I'll just keep on moving to #1). I've seen it done to great (and baffling) effect. Honestly it's quite sad to see it work.
My roommate is an expert at it and watching him in action makes for interesting people-watching. He makes sport out of tearing a girl down and building her back up as he wants to. I just don't get it though.
1. Slutty chicks are nothing more than potential for embarassment to me. No thanks.
I don't think thats quite the same thing. While saying a woman is loose is definitely an insult. What he did say is kinda true. Sex does loosen up vaginas.
Racist propaganda isn't exactly true. Hence why it's propaganda.
Still I get the point you were trying to make.
Here's what you said that kinda brings that out...
"What are the risks associated with each choice? You have to admit that the latter girl has a much higher risk in many areas: potential STD's, loyalty issues, commitment issues etc. etc. Frankly I can't see how a person doesn't have at least some negative thoughts when honestly assessing if they want a relationship with a woman like the latter."
Why do you think loyalty and commitment issues are something that directly tie into sexual activity? To piggyback off of what marathonfool said, they've got nothing to do with one another. Also, if anything, the person who is that much more socially experienced will have a better understanding of themselves and their needs when stepping into a relationship.
Its a bit of a joke to say that people who have more sex are more likely to have fucked up relationships.
Black Mamba
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People who have sex with more people are not necessarily people who have more sex.
Also, not sure how there isn't a correlation between promiscuity and commitment potential. For both sexes.
Shadow of the BEAST
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Old habits die hard.
Same holds true either way.
The person who has sex with 3 people in a month and the person who has sex with 3 people in a year - you can't look at that alone and say "Wow, that first person needs to slow down"
Well like another poster said to you in a slightly different situation, someone who has built their habits in a manner that seeks out and sleeps with people easily and frequently will in all likelihood have a harder time remaining loyal and faithful then a person who has a
past history of having long term relationships and remaining loyal.......
........kinda like its less likely for me to look at porn in the next week if I never really looked at porn much before compared to another guy who looks at it three times a day and is now asked to avoid looking at porn.
Im also not sure that a promiscuous person will know more of what they want then someone who tends to stick to committed relationships. Especially if the promiscuous girl has rarely if ever been in a long term relationship. Relationships are a whole different animal after a year or two. Just sleeping with many people isn't going to teach her anything about that other than what she likes at the beginning of relationships.
Al-ibn Kermit
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Bragging about introducing strangers to your DSL's would make me think less of any man or woman.
Also after high school, I don't think I've ever heard a guy honestly brag about how much sex he can have.
People should be allowed to have however much random sex they want. But to consider that something worth bragging about, that it shows your social dominance over others, is just pure dipshittery.
Not really except by childbirth.
This always strikes me as a weird argument anyway.
http://www.elainehatfield.com/79.pdf
Whether or not it's a product of society's design, I'd say it's practically inarguable that it's easier for a woman than a comparably attractive man to get sex . I'd also argue based on experience and speculation that a man's competence and masculinity is also directly tied in to his ability to score with women.
Whether or not it's a product of society's design, I'd say it's practically inarguable that it's easier for a woman than a comparably attractive man to get sex . I'd also argue based on experience and speculation that a man's competence and masculinity is also directly tied in to his ability to score with women.
Black Mamba
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I don't think anyone has to "slow down."
I just think the dude is saying, the chick whose slept with 50 dudes in 5 years and has had no long term relationships is far less likely to be long-term relationship material than the chick who has been with 5 guys in 5 years and say two dudes for 2 years.
I'll agree with the loyalty part, though. Don't think either says anything about loyalty. But commitment? I'd bet the house on a strong correlation.
It's a signal about the person's personality, desires, etc. And above should be chick or dude. Works both ways, of course. No guarantee, but a probability.
You seem to have already assigned personality types to promiscuous person X and committed person Y...
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