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AACS Mandate: PS3 no longer support HD through component| Existing Units Not Affected
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I'm actually using a dinosaur of a rear projection HDTV right now, and this would be a real bummer if it coincided with a $200 price point for the PS3... Well, I guess there are adapters out there. Still a pain, though...
I'm pretty sure the PS3 already does. Blu-Ray movies are have HDCP, meaning they'll only display at their full resolution on an HDCP-compatible DVI or HDMI connection.angelfly said:
GhostWriter24
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I have no issue with this. One uniform solution to A/V cables is the best option.
Evil and counter-productive. This news is about a new model of PS3 that presumably lacks something needed to display HD over component, but it would probably take a non-trivial amount of work disable the feature on existing units. I don't see why they possibly would.NateDrake said:
Square Triangle
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_dementia said:
Tell them to fucking get with 2008?
GhostWriter24
Member
They can't do that, and even if they could it's out of the question. That move alone would destroy a massive chunk of their userbase's PS3's unexpectedly.NateDrake said:
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
24FrameDaVinci said:
How does this get closer to that?
There's still an AV Out port. You can still plug in component cables. What's been solved?
Well, we're assuming the news is correct - hopefully it isn't.OldJadedGamer said:
If it is, then obviously yes Sony needs to separate the two. Hopefully it isn't a contractual issue that they fucked up. If so, they are to blame for not seeing it beforehand.
It's the same port.
Japan-only iirc. The other regions came with it at launch.
Why would they spend development time for something they have no contractual obligation to do?
That's a very obtuse outlook
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
kassatsu said:
until their ps3 breaks and they need to buy a new one
(Launch 60GB Ps3 + Hauppauge HD PVR 1212 here)
Raistlin said:
The way I see it they were in the room to make sure the only ones getting bent over were the ones not in the room (the consumers).
Content providers need customers to buy their content, otherwise they're useless. I don't see how forcing needless restrictions on consumers makes it any easier for a content producer to produce content and then sell it. If anything it just makes it a hassle to get content from them instead of not getting it at all, or getting the DRM-free versions on the internet for "free".
It's counterintuitive to assume they'd do that. They'd be spending development time and money on something they have no contractual obligation to enforce.Billychu said:
What I'd be more concerned about is if studios start including the image constraint token (ICT) on movie releases now that we're hitting phase one of the BD analog sunset.
Enforcement of that is already in all BD players. That said, I believe part of the negotiation is that the disc must list usage of ICT or DOT on the back of the box.
mjemirzian
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So future PS3s won't be able to output anything higher than 480i out of component. Then by 2013 they won't have component at all. Sucks. But it's ok, streaming is about to be a felony without a license anyway! HDMI capture cards also won't work on the PS3 since all output is HDCP enabled (there are ways around this but I'd assume they are illegal under the DMCA circumvention laws). If the next 360 goes blu-ray you can look forward to the same thing happening.
Vita also won't be coming with video out (unrelated, but disappointing since the PSP had video out).
Vita also won't be coming with video out (unrelated, but disappointing since the PSP had video out).
OldJadedGamer
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Raistlin said:
I did say "original" launch units. So the feature was never there, they added it, then removed it.
lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
I love component, this is bollocks, wtf are Sony playing at this gen?, I use both my 360 and PS3 via HD component on my HDTV.
OldJadedGamer
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Massa said:
I understand it from a movie studio point of view... just it gets lost on us gamers on how this has ANYTHING to do with gaming. At all.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
NBtoaster said:
I don't think "can output HD resolutions using component cables" is going to be an upsell feature for the higher model, especially given the AACS sunset people are talking about in this thread.
That's not how it works ... there's this thing known as competition.Massa said:
Think back to when HD-DVD and BD were battling it out. If one of them wasn't offering DRM and the other was ... the former would have basically died instantaneously because all the studios would have dropped them like a bad habit.
MrMephistoX
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VariantX said:
If you already own a PS3 you're fine. I would imagine that most folks that waited to get a PS3 till now are not the early adopter type and thus probably wouldn't have jumped on the HD bandwagon in it's infancy.
phosphor112
Banned
It doesn't have a bluray player, so it wont.Sweeper17 said:
Hm... This is an interesting decision from Sony, but I am so beyond the brink in terms of rampant cynicism with almost every gaming publisher, developer, or corporation these days that it doesn't even fucking matter to me.
I'm glad I got my PS3 when I did, because my HDTV doesn't actually have an HDMI port (but I guess my... laptop does?).
So basically I'm going to give my PS3 the "if you ever break down at a single point like your 360 brother, I swear to god I will ragequit console gaming and they will never find your plastic body" speech that I gave my Wii, and add lack of HDMI-TV as another bullet point.
I'm glad I got my PS3 when I did, because my HDTV doesn't actually have an HDMI port (but I guess my... laptop does?).
So basically I'm going to give my PS3 the "if you ever break down at a single point like your 360 brother, I swear to god I will ragequit console gaming and they will never find your plastic body" speech that I gave my Wii, and add lack of HDMI-TV as another bullet point.
BlueTsunami said:
I see what you did there
Amazing generation. So HDFury to be a sponsor at upcoming fightstreams/EVO?
nVidiot_Whore
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TTP said:
HDCP applies to the content, not the entire video output. But you aren't supposed to connect any HDMI device to a device that doesn't support HDCP... so before the devices even know what content is being played they do a "handshake" to ensure they both can handle any protected signal. Not all signals are marked protected.
I seriously dislike a lot of things Sony has done this gen.
The PS3 didn't support my Sony HDTV when it first launched very well.. because it was a 1080i set.. it was only a few years old.. and cost me $3,000.
It's like Sony either doesn't talk between their PS3 division and HDTV division or they are so ridiculously greedy they think people would actually upgrade their Sony TV's when they pull crap like this.. I actually specifically avoided buying a Sony TV and will from now into the future because of PS3's bullshit lack of real 1080i support.
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