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Dictator93
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(03-20-2017, 11:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by rashbeep

I am now deceased

mass erect
JSoup
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(03-20-2017, 11:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by inky

Romulan Ale looks nothing like that...



Actually Romulan Ale looks different depending on the version of Trek we are talking about ;P

Was about to say..
I've only seen the movies, I thought Romulan Ale was translucent blue.
Eolz
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(03-20-2017, 11:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Officer.Sanchez

I just finished a comparison between the (alpha?) footage from april 2016 and this one. I couldn't find a good video so I used the glitched footage.

https://my.mixtape.moe/yugchn.mp4

Wait, what are the settings of the final game there?
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
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(03-20-2017, 11:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by rashbeep

I am now deceased

........what the actual fuck was that? Oh my god the animation what.
Tranqueris
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(03-20-2017, 11:54 PM)

Originally Posted by Officer.Sanchez

I just finished a comparison between the (alpha?) footage from april 2016 and this one. I couldn't find a good video so I used the glitched footage.

https://my.mixtape.moe/yugchn.mp4

Jesus the eyes. It's like he's a dying fish or something.
Peterc
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(03-20-2017, 11:57 PM)

Originally Posted by GravityInsanity

Bioware really needed way more time with this game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-S56ek5rMI

This can't be true, is it from a e3 demo or final version?
City of Dis
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(03-21-2017, 12:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by Officer.Sanchez

I just finished a comparison between the (alpha?) footage from april 2016 and this one. I couldn't find a good video so I used the glitched footage.

https://my.mixtape.moe/yugchn.mp4

The leaked clip already looks like it belongs in the last generation, and the retail product looks exceptionally worse. Jeez. I remember Mass Effect 3 was technically awful (fallen enemies disappeared and you could straight walk through them before they did). You really gotta wonder about the type of talent they're hiring.
Trace
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(03-21-2017, 12:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by rashbeep

I am now deceased

The greatest game of our generation.
Soul of the Beast
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(03-21-2017, 12:00 AM)

Originally Posted by Officer.Sanchez

I just finished a comparison between the (alpha?) footage from april 2016 and this one. I couldn't find a good video so I used the glitched footage.
https://my.mixtape.moe/yugchn.mp4

The difference is absolutely insane, what the hell happened to this game?
i-Lo
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(03-21-2017, 12:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by Officer.Sanchez

I just finished a comparison between the (alpha?) footage from april 2016 and this one. I couldn't find a good video so I used the glitched footage.

https://my.mixtape.moe/yugchn.mp4

Originally Posted by Osahi

In one cutscène I had two characters following the exact same path and doing the exact same animations, like the game had only place for one teammember to put there and decided: what the heck, let's just mix up both.

Don't have a movie or a gif as I didn't think of saving it as a movie, but I do have the abomination in screenshot:

These are just pitiful. This reminds me so much of Star trek the video game from 4 years ago.
Peterc
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(03-21-2017, 12:03 AM)
This one is good too: https://twitter.com/alvitef/status/8...151593472?s=09
GravityInsanity
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(03-21-2017, 12:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by StriKeVillain

Ok, this cracked me up a bit.

https://twitter.com/Pepipopa/status/...237255/video/1

Originally Posted by rashbeep

I am now deceased

Strimei
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(03-21-2017, 12:13 AM)
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Oh god, I lost it to the Peebee sex scene. Holy shit. I couldn't stop laughing.
Maintenance
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(03-21-2017, 12:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by lumi7890

This looks like one of those fake porns that people make with video game characters.

Nah, SFM videos are way above this mess.
JSoup
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(03-21-2017, 12:31 AM)
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Everyone is on about the animations, I'm just laughing my head off, thinking 'This is going to be great.'
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(03-21-2017, 12:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kapten Stoffe

That looks awful! Had to take a still image to post. May be a bit blurry from being a still, but the lighting, the colors, what happened?!

Switch version confirmed after all?
lastplayed
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(03-21-2017, 01:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by JSoup

Everyone is on about the animations, I'm just laughing my head off, thinking 'This is going to be great.'

The animations seem like the least of the game's worries.
jabuseika
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(03-21-2017, 01:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by rashbeep

I am now deceased

xenorevlis
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(03-21-2017, 01:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by Peterc

This can't be true, is it from a e3 demo or final version?

Final version. However, just a page or two back you can see the leaked version from a year ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opOdFKObpeM
J_Viper
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(03-21-2017, 01:18 AM)
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I can see Cora was modeled after Kendra Lust.......
Slaythe
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(03-21-2017, 01:24 AM)
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Holy shit you guys saw that ? The game used to have great animation D:

Originally Posted by MasterMenace



In addition, take a look at the below video comparing the leaked 2016 MEA footage to the current footage.

https://my.mixtape.moe/yugchn.mp4

Notice how the April 2016 leaked version has dramatically better animations, ESPECIALLY the facial animation when that guy starts coughing. What happened?!

This is so sad.

edit :
yes i'm late

Last edited by Slaythe; 03-21-2017 at 01:27 AM.
J_Viper
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(03-21-2017, 01:27 AM)
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Helacious
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(03-21-2017, 01:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by J_Viper

Nice touch with the reverse gun
Kain-Nosgoth
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(03-21-2017, 01:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by J_Viper

ho god, how can people be so creative!? Never change gaf, you're awesome!
J_Viper
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(03-21-2017, 01:59 AM)
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Actually found that on 4chan lol, not sure what the exact source is though
How About No
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(03-21-2017, 02:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by J_Viper

oh fuck
everyday math
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(03-21-2017, 02:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by J_Viper

And now I'm dead
GravityInsanity
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(03-21-2017, 02:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by J_Viper

Wait, she really said this? Is Bioware trolling us? The meme is too perfect lol.
Gator86
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(03-21-2017, 02:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by J_Viper

Goddammit
Kaako
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(03-21-2017, 02:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by J_Viper

http://i.imgur.com/RTCN4CA.jpg

The gun too ahahaha god damn.
JSoup
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(03-21-2017, 02:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by lastplayed

The animations seem like the least of the game's worries.

Still gonna have fun. :D
Sword Of Doom
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(03-21-2017, 02:24 AM)
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Watched the GB quick look. it's hard to believe that this is a flagship franchise for one of the biggest companies in videogames.
ichtyander
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(03-21-2017, 02:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by Eolz

Wait, what are the settings of the final game there?

I'm gonna quote myself from another thread, because I'm curious as well:

Originally Posted by ichtyander

Just to clear up something, because I'm not sure myself, but isn't the March 2017 portion of that comparison video taken from this glitched YouTube video? The glitched video has obviously some animation issues going on (and other like duplicated models in T-poses, maybe even possible lighting, texture or LOD problems), so I was just wondering if that's really a representative sample for comparison.

Or was that footage taken from a normal (not glitched) version of the cutscene? (I've no idea when the scene happens, if there's footage of it elsewhere from other sources etc.)

Not trying to detour the conversation at all, just curious if that's really how that particular scene looks like in the final build, since there are some glaring inconsistencies in at least texture and model detail, compared to other cutscenes I've seen (like Drack has some shitty detail and textures, compared to, say, this introductory cutscene).

I mean, the game looks like a mess in many respects, I'm just curious about the facts in this particular instance.

EDIT:
Just to make it clearer:

March 2017 example from the comparison video with glitches:

Another ingame cutscene showing the same character:

Last edited by ichtyander; 03-21-2017 at 02:32 AM.
jabuseika
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(03-21-2017, 02:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sword Of Doom

Watched the GB quick look. it's hard to believe that this is a flagship franchise for one of the biggest companies in videogames.

Fallout 4.
Slaythe
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(03-21-2017, 02:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by ichtyander

I'm gonna quote myself from another thread, because I'm curious as well:

You're entirely right but the "non broken" version isn't gonna magically fix anything.

The lightning is shit, the animations are shit, the models are shit. So in no way will it ever match the target render.



This is the norm.
EmCeeGramr
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(03-21-2017, 02:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by J_Viper

jesus
Vigilant Gambit
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(03-21-2017, 02:32 AM)
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Originally Posted by J_Viper

I don't get it
RedRum
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(03-21-2017, 02:32 AM)
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This thread is amazing. I think I'll enjoy the game regardless when I pick it up after a few patches.

You know.. Crowbcat is going to fucking destroy this game. LoL.
Soul of the Beast
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(03-21-2017, 02:35 AM)

Originally Posted by J_Viper

I can't
oneils
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(03-21-2017, 02:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by Vigilant Gambit

I don't get it

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/trust-...-even-yourself
ichtyander
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(03-21-2017, 02:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by Slaythe

You're entirely right but the "non broken" version isn't gonna magically fix anything.

The lightning is shit, the animations are shit, the models are shit. So in no way will it ever match the target render.



This is the norm.

Oh no, I pretty much agree, there are certainly a lot of examples (like the one with the colorful protesters you provided) that look real bad, but I've also seen the game look very nice at times (like the introductory Drack cutscene, which again, it's a cutscene made to look good for a reason, compared to ingame walkabouts), so I'm wondering if maybe the coughing animation is borked in that particular example, since most of the animations aren't even playing because of the sheer fucked up glitchy mess in that cutscene.
Slaythe
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(03-21-2017, 02:38 AM)
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Originally Posted by ichtyander

Oh no, I pretty much agree, there are certainly a lot of examples (like the one with the colorful protesters you provided) that look real bad, but I've also seen the game look very nice at times (like the introductory Drack cutscene, which again, it's a cutscene made to look good for a reason, compared to ingame walkabouts), so I'm wondering if maybe the coughing animation is borked in that particular example, since most of the animations aren't even playing because of the sheer fucked up glitchy mess in that cutscene.

Outside of the Cora sex scenes, that coughing was more convincing that anything else in the game though :p .

Even if the dude does cough, it won't look similar. But maybe it does ! I don't have the game to check sadly.
hogendaz85
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(03-21-2017, 02:38 AM)

Originally Posted by Lucifon

If we're nitpicking water pouring animations we could be here all day with videogames.

Honestly though, this is really shitty. As another gaffer mentioned the liquid starts above where the hole of the bottle is and it continues to pour after the bottle is moved away it's just very poorly executed regardless of how the wine/liquid looks.
Beck
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(03-21-2017, 02:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by ichtyander

Oh no, I pretty much agree, there are certainly a lot of examples (like the one with the colorful protesters you provided) that look real bad, but I've also seen the game look very nice at times (like the introductory Drack cutscene, which again, it's a cutscene made to look good for a reason, compared to ingame walkabouts), so I'm wondering if maybe the coughing animation is borked in that particular example, since most of the animations aren't even playing because of the sheer fucked up glitchy mess in that cutscene.

As the person who recorded the glitch video, I'll get a a non-messed up version of it right now. Luckily the game keeps loyalty mission saves for each party member.
ItIsOkBro
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(03-21-2017, 02:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by akidnamededdy

"Shit, sorry - that was my pudding flask."

"sorry, pudding - that was my shit flask."
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Originally Posted by jabuseika

Fallout 4.

Don't wanna excuse Fallout 4 but wasn't that series always ugly, and wasn't the preview footage ugly?
ichtyander
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(03-21-2017, 02:53 AM)
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Originally Posted by Slaythe

Outside of the Cora sex scenes, that coughing was more convincing that anything else in the game though :p .

Even if the dude does cough, it won't look similar. But maybe it does ! I don't have the game to check sadly.

I mean, it might look a bit "better" if, say, the animations weren't playing properly, the textures and models weren't loaded in full detail, or the lighting wasn't maxed out/got glitched as well, won't help much with all the other glaring problems the game obviously has, but at least it might make the comparison more accurate to what the finished product looks like in that particular instance. Not crossing my fingers on much better results though.

Originally Posted by Beck

As the person who recorded the glitch video, I'll get a a non-messed up version of it right now. Luckily the game keeps loyalty mission saves for each party member.

Thanks, I didn't really mean to bother anyone with this, I was just curious, and it kinda gnaws at the back of my brain when I notice stuff like that. I'm all for critiquing and exposing problems in games and all things related to the industry, I just kinda like seeing it done properly. :)
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(03-21-2017, 03:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by ichtyander

Thanks, I didn't really mean to bother anyone with this, I was just curious, and it kinda gnaws at the back of my brain when I notice stuff like that. I'm all for critiquing and exposing problems in games and all things related to the industry, I just kinda like seeing it done properly. :)

Yeah. I never expected the video would be used as a comparison, especially considering I hadn't seen the other alpha footage prior to today. But, here's a non-glitched version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_ZjiDjnr40
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(03-21-2017, 03:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by Lime

The reaction by GB to this random drunk NPC is hilarious

Jeff finally broke
ichtyander
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(03-21-2017, 03:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by Beck

Yeah. I never expected the video would be used as a comparison, especially considering I hadn't seen the other alpha footage prior to today. But, here's a non-glitched version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_ZjiDjnr40

Much appreciated, sad to see there's nothing fundamentally better in the non-glitched version expect better textures and poly count. I now remember seeing that alpha footage at the time but had completely forgotten about it until today, and it's a shame at how much fidelity and detail is lost in the final version. You can even see them deliberately cut the camera when the coughing starts so you can't even see the character's face properly until he falls down since they've obviously cut/changed the animations drastically in the final product.

It's a shame to see a troubled project like this, especially one that potentially showed some promise, as a new and bright future for the Mass Effect franchise. I've had my beef with the original trilogy, but there was a lot of good stuff in there, so I'm kinda bummed when a big and interesting sci-fi series gets borked like this.

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