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robot
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(03-20-2017, 08:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by ToD_

Thanks for the info. That is disappointing, but I still may grab some for the sake of having portable versions. Hopefully some things get patched in. What's the caravan mode?

Haven't tried it on WW7 but Caravan is traditionally a mode to see how well you score in a specified time limit. It was pretty common for shoot em ups, very odd to see it in a fighting game so I'm curious if it's the same thing.
Ginger Hail
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(03-20-2017, 08:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Professor Lexicovermis

Maybe allow us to swap between Arcade and Home modes? I know some games added features to the Home mode. For example, Waku Waku 7 has 2 additional playable characters in VS Mode.

On an unrelated note, how does the Interrupt Save work? I haven't gotten it to work properly yet...

I'd love to see something like that included. However, I'm guessing that their emphasis on being "arcade perfect" means they're not interested in perusing it. In addition, this company ports tons of non-Neo Geo games as well that never had a BIOS switch in place, so it might not be worth the effort to them. Guess we'll have to see.

I'm eager for Turf Masters to show up any week now. I almost grabbed it on PS4, but I think it'd make for a great portable game.
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(03-20-2017, 08:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by robot

Haven't tried it on WW7 but Caravan is traditionally a mode to see how well you score in a specified time limit. It was pretty common for shoot em ups, very odd to see it in a fighting game so I'm curious if it's the same thing.

it is exactly that: https://twitter.com/krokounleashed/s...09908734996480

Originally Posted by Ginger Hail

I'd love to see something like that included. However, I'm guessing that their emphasis on being "arcade perfect" means they're not interested in perusing it. In addition, this company ports tons of non-Neo Geo games as well that never had a BIOS switch in place, so it might not be worth the effort to them. Guess we'll have to see.

I'm eager for Turf Masters to show up any week now. I almost grabbed it on PS4, but I think it'd make for a great portable game.

Considering they are porting more than just Neo Geo games and on 3 platforms, I doubt they will do anything beyond the arcade version.
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moltonasty
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(03-20-2017, 08:54 PM)
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I mean it's literally called "Arcade Archives"....

As much as I'd love if they did add an AES mode, I highly doubt they will.

I'm just hyped to have MVS games on a portable, good enough for me
Vitacat
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(03-20-2017, 08:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by moltonasty

I mean it's literally called "Arcade Archives"....

As much as I'd love if they did add an AES mode, I highly doubt they will

I'm just hyped to have MVS games on a portable, good enough for me

Which is pathetic, considering the AES version is right there in the ROM being emulated. It just needs to be enabled.

As for MVS games on a portable, that's been possible several times before the Switch.
SmiteOfHand
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(03-20-2017, 09:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by Vitacat

Which is pathetic, considering the AES version is right there in the ROM being emulated. It just needs to be enabled.

As for MVS games on a portable, that's been possible several times before the Switch.

Friggin' on disc DLC...

Although the technical side of it is simple I do sympathize that these sorts of decisions do not exist in a vacuum. Who knows how SNK and/or the publisher and rights holders treats these sorts of things. Maybe Hamster has to pay more for an unlimited license so it makes more sense to work out a more limited deal. Who knows.

Doesn't hurt to ask though, even if I think chances are slim.
moltonasty
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(03-20-2017, 09:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by Vitacat

Which is pathetic, considering the AES version is right there in the ROM being emulated. It just needs to be enabled.

As for MVS games on a portable, that's been possible several times before the Switch.

Don't get me wrong I agree, I just don't see them enabling it considering the circumstances. I'd love to see it happen!

I should have specified good portable versions. I wouldn't count the Neo Geo X or PSP ports as particularly high quality.
MrBeggar
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(03-21-2017, 12:06 AM)
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Can I get a confirmation about KOF'98 opening vocals being on the US or JP version?
So far only one person has confirmed it being on the UK store version.
SmiteOfHand
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(03-21-2017, 01:37 AM)
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Threw this together to demonstrate the audio delay. Don't mind the weird video/coloring differences between the two, I was only concerned with audio.

In particular notice the frame where Marco's profile pic flashes from being selected to the time the audio kicks in. On switch it is a few frames delayed. Likewise, the gunshot animation compared to the gunshot sound.

You can see in the full motion comparisons it is subtle, but if you notice it, you notice it.

https://youtu.be/3tMBWKLp6ds
Neff
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(03-21-2017, 02:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by Pinky

Really want to see Fatal Fury: Special, Art of Fighting and Magician Lord find their way onto Switch at some point.

I'd buy all those, especially Art of Fighting. The first AoF is a pet favourite of mine which I actually prefer to the sequel.

Originally Posted by MrBeggar

Can I get a confirmation about KOF'98 opening vocals being on the US or JP version?
So far only one person has confirmed it being on the UK store version.

Whoever told you this is sadly incorrect, the UK version (which I have) doesn't have the vocals either.
SatoAilDarko
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(03-21-2017, 02:38 AM)
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So I've asked this question 3 times in this thread. One more.

Do these NEO GEO games come with an option for the home version (AES) in addition to the arcade version (MVS)?
Sparrowhawk
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(03-21-2017, 02:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by SatoAilDarko

So I've asked this question 3 times in this thread. One more.

Do these NEO GEO games come with an option for the home version (AES) in addition to the arcade version (MVS)?

Unfortunately, no.
Shinriji
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(03-21-2017, 02:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by SatoAilDarko

So I've asked this question 3 times in this thread. One more.

Do these NEO GEO games come with an option for the home version (AES) in addition to the arcade version (MVS)?

No.
Pinky
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(03-21-2017, 02:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by Neff

I'd buy all those, especially Art of Fighting. The first AoF is a pet favourite of mine which I actually prefer to the sequel.

First time I ever played AoF, I was blown away by how the camera would zoom in and out depending on how close or far the fighters were from each other. The graphics were killer for the time as well!
bytesized
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(03-21-2017, 11:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by Pinky

First time I ever played AoF, I was blown away by how the camera would zoom in and out depending on how close or far the fighters were from each other. The graphics were killer for the time as well!

Same here. I stumbled upon a super small videogame shop in my city went in and they were playing this incredible game with these huge controllers which were the size of the console... i almost fainted at the awesomeness
DSFan1970
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(03-21-2017, 11:46 AM)

Originally Posted by SatoAilDarko

So I've asked this question 3 times in this thread. One more.

Do these NEO GEO games come with an option for the home version (AES) in addition to the arcade version (MVS)?

What is the difference between AES and MVS versions?
Loona
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(03-21-2017, 01:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by DSFan1970

What is the difference between AES and MVS versions?

IIRC, things like difficulty selection, and 1-on-1 matches as an option in the home version.
SporeCrawler
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(03-21-2017, 01:54 PM)
I want:

Last Blade 2
KoF 95, 96 and 99
Art of Fighting 3
Real Bout 2
Fatal Fury 3
Garou

and

Twinkle Star Sprites!!!
xyla
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(03-21-2017, 01:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Loona

IIRC, things like difficulty selection, and 1-on-1 matches as an option in the home version.

I maybe wrong here, but you can force these things in through the options menu. At least in KoF 98.
AgentOtaku
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(03-21-2017, 03:39 PM)
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Aw man, I'm gonna go so HAM when i get a switch if ACA keeps it up with these releases :D
SmiteOfHand
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(03-21-2017, 03:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by xyla

I maybe wrong here, but you can force these things in through the options menu. At least in KoF 98.

Not the same thing. AES mode often has a menu, more like a home console game, and often options unique to that mode such as practice.

edit: explained a little better, the options it gives in the ACA Game Settings menu is more equivalent to flipping Dip switches in the arcade to change some options. Under the hood that is probably technically all AES mode is doing with a slightly more user friendly menu, however AES exposes the full set, where arcade (MVS) is limited to stuff that makes sense for an arcade setting.



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moltonasty
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(03-21-2017, 03:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by tolkir

Neo Turf Masters in EU this week (Probably the same one in NA and Japan)

LEGIT FUCKING MEGATON

if they keep this weekly release pace up I'll be very happy.
Peltz
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(03-21-2017, 03:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by tolkir

Neo Turf Masters in EU this week (Probably the same one in NA and Japan)

Oh YEA! I love the music in this game. Seriously, holy shit GAF, hold me!

So ready.

Listen to this shit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jirccwlnSSg
moltonasty
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(03-21-2017, 03:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by Peltz

Oh YEA! I love the music in this game. Seriously, holy shit GAF, hold me!

So ready.

Listen to this shit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jirccwlnSSg

straight fire!

that Japan theme gets me dancing in my seat every time I play this game tho. TOO GOOD
Tain
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(03-21-2017, 03:48 PM)
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I'm kinda baffled at the lack of AES options.

Similarly, I'm baffled at the Hamster release of Renegade on PS4 not including Nekketsu Kouha Kunio-kun.

M2 would include these things. :|
Velkyn
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(03-21-2017, 04:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mr. Pointy

I forgot how good Neo Turf Masters looks for a sprite based golf game.

Oh man, hype. I'll grab this Thursday if we're getting it. Hamster is awesome!

Now we just need some Baseball Stars 2 and some Magical Drop on Switch.
Peltz
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(03-21-2017, 04:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by SmiteOfHand

Threw this together to demonstrate the audio delay. Don't mind the weird video/coloring differences between the two, I was only concerned with audio.

In particular notice the frame where Marco's profile pic flashes from being selected to the time the audio kicks in. On switch it is a few frames delayed. Likewise, the gunshot animation compared to the gunshot sound.

You can see in the full motion comparisons it is subtle, but if you notice it, you notice it.

https://youtu.be/3tMBWKLp6ds

Damn. That's actually pretty noticeable even at full speed. Looks like I'll be passing on these.

Neo Geo ports always seem to get fucked up :(

I'll stick to my MVS.
SmiteOfHand
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(03-21-2017, 04:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by Peltz

Damn. That's actually pretty noticeable even at full speed. Looks like I'll be passing on these.

Neo Geo ports always seem to get fucked up :(

I'll stick to my MVS.

For the record, Hamster acknowledged the delay. The color issue was patched, but unclear if something is still coming for the delay.

https://twitter.com/HAMSTER_Corp/sta...88928981798913

https://twitter.com/HAMSTER_Corp/sta...88988096290816
LiveFromKyoto
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(03-21-2017, 04:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Pinky

Really want to see Fatal Fury: Special, Art of Fighting and Magician Lord find their way onto Switch at some point.

I used to love Magician Lord in the arcade. Then I got it for Vita and realized it's basically unplayable with how unfair it is.

Art of Fighting's got terrible input buffers that make special moves really hard to pull off, but at least it's got atmosphere going for it.
deadfolk
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(03-21-2017, 04:51 PM)
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Is Turf Masters any good? Never played it, but I do love me some portable golf.
kaydigi
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(03-21-2017, 05:11 PM)

Originally Posted by tolkir

Neo Turf Masters in EU this week (Probably the same one in NA and Japan)

On the Greeeeeeeen!!!!!!!!!
GDGF
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(03-21-2017, 05:56 PM)
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Finally downloaded KoF98 and it hit me right in the nostalgia. Plenty of great memories playing that one back in the day with my friends at Diamond Jim's.
Peltz
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(03-21-2017, 05:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by SmiteOfHand

For the record, Hamster acknowledged the delay. The color issue was patched, but unclear if something is still coming for the delay.

https://twitter.com/HAMSTER_Corp/sta...88928981798913

https://twitter.com/HAMSTER_Corp/sta...88988096290816

Cool. Hopefully it gets fixed.
Mpl90
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(03-21-2017, 06:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by tolkir

Neo Turf Masters in EU this week (Probably the same one in NA and Japan)

...OH GOD

I already have the iOS version of the game. I can't buy it again, can it?
Ah, the memories back when I used to play it at the beach's arcade hall.
antibolo
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(03-21-2017, 08:08 PM)
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It feels like the patch improved the audio lag but there's still some.
antibolo
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(03-21-2017, 08:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by moltonasty

I mean it's literally called "Arcade Archives"....

As much as I'd love if they did add an AES mode, I highly doubt they will.

I'm just hyped to have MVS games on a portable, good enough for me

AES mode is literally just a single bit swap away. There's absolutely no reason to NOT give us this option in the settings menu, it would require extremely little effort.
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(03-21-2017, 08:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by tolkir

Neo Turf Masters in EU this week (Probably the same one in NA and Japan)

A lot of people asking for this one. I want that Baseball Stars 2.
xyla
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(03-21-2017, 08:22 PM)
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For someone who has no nostalgia for Neo Turf Masters or golf games on general...

Is it worth it for the 2 player mode alone in a post Mario Golf world?
I think baseball would be more my cup of tea, but I'm somewhat in the mood for a non fighting neo geo game.
Neff
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(03-21-2017, 08:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by LiveFromKyoto

I used to love Magician Lord in the arcade. Then I got it for Vita and realized it's basically unplayable with how unfair it is.

Practice makes perfect. Good players can 1cc this game every time.
butman
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(03-21-2017, 08:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by DSFan1970

What is the difference between AES and MVS versions?

Censorship on Mai's boobs magical movement.
Timu
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(03-21-2017, 08:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by DSFan1970

What is the difference between AES and MVS versions?

MVS is the arcade version and normally have Level 4 as the default difficulty, plus have blood and other things that would get censored on AES versions.

AES is the home version of an arcade game, normally with limited credits of 4, have Level 3 as the default setting, usually has more features like more modes and such and is often censored when it comes to blood and other content.
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(03-21-2017, 08:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Timu

MVS is the arcade version and normally have Level 4 as the default difficulty, plus have blood and other things that would get censored on AES versions.

AES is the home version of an arcade game, normally with limited credits of 4, have Level 3 as the default setting, usually has more features like more modes and such and is often censored when it comes to blood and other content.

Thankfully, setting the region to Japan in AES mode also disables censorship. While the region will be Japan, many games will allow you to set the language to English and retain the uncensored features. Not that many of them are text heavy, so the last bit is not that important - menus are generally in English regardless of region.
b00_thegh0st
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(03-21-2017, 08:35 PM)

Originally Posted by xyla

For someone who has no nostalgia for Neo Turf Masters or golf games on general...

Is it worth it for the 2 player mode alone in a post Mario Golf world?
I think baseball would be more my cup of tea, but I'm somewhat in the mood for a non fighting neo geo game.

I can't speak for the MVS game but Neo Turf Masters on NGPC is one of my favorite game ever. Very solid arcade golf game in a pre-Everbybody's Golf era.
professor denim
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(03-21-2017, 08:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by deadfolk

Is Turf Masters any good? Never played it, but I do love me some portable golf.

Best Golf video game ever.
Timu
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(03-21-2017, 08:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by butman

Censorship on Mai's boobs magical movement.

Funny enough the Japanese versions of AES games don't censor her breast movement.
Cody_D165
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(03-22-2017, 12:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by tolkir

Neo Turf Masters in EU this week (Probably the same one in NA and Japan)

ON DA GWEEEEEN!!
deadfolk
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(03-22-2017, 12:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by professor denim

Best Golf video game ever.

Seriously? Damn!
Timu
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(03-22-2017, 01:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by ToD_

Thankfully, setting the region to Japan in AES mode also disables censorship. While the region will be Japan, many games will allow you to set the language to English and retain the uncensored features. Not that many of them are text heavy, so the last bit is not that important - menus are generally in English regardless of region.

That's pretty cool actually!

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