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DF Retro: Doom - Every Console Port Tested!
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Dont give Drakon any views for goodness sake!!!
I'm curious. Why?
EmCeeGramr
Member
Ha, had no idea about drama in the SNES overclocking scene, I just remember seeing videos of SNES Doom running slightly faster and thinking "oh, that's neat."
Yeah, Brutal Doom has a... mixed reputation in the classic Doom community these days. It very quickly went from "wow, this a great fun way to give Doom another playthrough... and it's getting people interested and aware of Doom modding again!" to modders and classic Doom fans becoming very sick of how ubiquitous it became (with people always recommending it even over vanilla, or demanding mod makers to make theirs compatible with BD no matter how difficult or nonsensical that would be), how much fame went to SgtMarkIV's head, the jerk stuff he became notorious for, people attributing the years of hard work and added features by source port coders to Brutal Doom itself (or stuff like how many of its new effects and animations were originally taken from Beautiful Doom), the "it's the best/true way to play Doom now!" refrain, etc.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Here are some videos showcasing his work.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gametechus+drakon
Personally, I thought Brutal Doom was pretty cool at first, but then I realized that the thing I liked about it was just that at the core it was still Doom and don't mess with Brutal Doom anymore. I think Brutal Doom is pretty overrated around here, especially the newer versions which add in reload without a way to remove that "feature" (unless things have changed, I stopped caring to check a long time ago).
I've tested them both and have never encountered this. I just played through nearly every Doom 2 map using the BFG version on Ultra Violence without a hiccup. Where did you run into slowdown? It was perfect across all versions.
Great episode as usual, but I think I still would have preferred a chronological look at the ports. Rankings always feel so.. idk cheap, because everyone and their mother use them on youtube.
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Thanks. I have BFG version.
Someone should get Bethesda to give us Doom on PS4 or via PS Now.
mattwhite924
Member
Really? I've got both and haven't felt like the BFG version has any glaring issues.
RAIDEN1
Member
Goes to show for all of the Atari Jaguar's "64 bit" claim to fame, it's version couldn't hold a candle up against the N64- Doom 64! And the irony that the Saturn version of Doom isn't that much better than the 32x version despite being the more poweful console...(saying that though we never did get to see the REAL doom on the saturn either..)
mattwhite924
Member
I'd love to get Doom 1 and 2 on the GBA, but I'm paranoid about getting bootleg carts. Apparently that's a bad problem for GBA games right now.
Does anyone know what to look for why buying them to make sure you get a legit copy?
Does anyone know what to look for why buying them to make sure you get a legit copy?
Daffy Duck
Member
So on the PC what's the definitive way to play these today?
I have the games on steam (Ultimate Doom, Doom 2, Final Doom and Master Levels) and despite owning the game on the PlayStation I've never actually played though the games fully, so how best to experience it?
I have the games on steam (Ultimate Doom, Doom 2, Final Doom and Master Levels) and despite owning the game on the PlayStation I've never actually played though the games fully, so how best to experience it?
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Since you have the .iwad game files now, download them off Steam, extract/move to a new folder, then download a source port like:
- GZDoom (OpenGL renderer + optional software rendering)
- Chocolate Doom (virtually 100% accurate rendition of Doom on DOS)
- Zandronum (based on GZDoom, but designed for multiplayer)
Definitely play through Ultimate Doom episodes 1 through 3, then Doom II, and then at least try Plutonia Experiment for a taste of mid-1990s fan mapping (TNT Devilution's much easier if you can't handle Plutonia, but not as polished). After that, research the Master Levels since those were submitted to id by fan mappers of varying ability.
Daffy Duck
Member
Excellent, thanks I'll check all that out.
zephervack
Member
Loved this episode, cant even imagine how long it took to make.
And thanks to this thread I will be playing Doom 64 on my PC soon, very curious, tho I still want to see it running in Nintendo 64 hardware in a CRT at some point.
Something noone has mentioned either is the awesome SNES cart:
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And thanks to this thread I will be playing Doom 64 on my PC soon, very curious, tho I still want to see it running in Nintendo 64 hardware in a CRT at some point.
Something noone has mentioned either is the awesome SNES cart:
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Definitely use the Doomworld Cacoawards and One Man Doom if you want to get into custom single-player maps, packs, mods, and "megaWADs".
Yeah, I think DOOMDC (continued as nxDOOM) for the Dreamcast was the first console port that truely captured the PC version. I was a regular over at the DCEmulation forums back in the day and ended up adminning for a while and once people had worked out how to boot any CD we like they were exciting times.
Oddly, Quake was actually ported first. Titanium Studios got it working well in a week and a half to get used to working with the WinCE libraries and it was apparently just that easy. But when DOOM came along, it was just as exciting.
Then to cap off the Doom connection, Rand Linden started posting on the forums. He actually ended up sending me the Tekken 3 and MGS BleemCast discs for free which was awesome.
Rand Lindens talent is insane though. He ported an improved version of the Quake engine to the GBA with dynamic lighting and was making a game called Cyboid 3D. I think the S60 version for Nokia phones made it out, but here it is running on a goddamn iPod Video of all things:
https://youtu.be/GFKwXyhDr7U
SteveO1683
Member
I feel like the 32x version coming in at number five totally vindicates my request for one the Christmas it came out.
Maybe?
Maybe?
Only if you asked for Fred Couples 36 Great Holes too.
Yikes, I knew he was an asshole, but I never thought he was THAT big of an asshole.
Booker.DeWitt
Member
What a great documentary, thanks op
I had heard about those things, but I didn't see them explained except for the real gore stuff. The thing I did see was a screencap of a post of him talking to another guy who was apparently depressed and he was giving him explicit instructions on how to commit suicide (mentioned in one of those threads).
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
Awesome work Dark.
I must say, you brought back some DOOM thirst. I would love to replay DOOM 64.
Port it to the Switch Bethesda. Port all the DOOM games to the Switch!
I must say, you brought back some DOOM thirst. I would love to replay DOOM 64.
Port it to the Switch Bethesda. Port all the DOOM games to the Switch!
They're probably not bootlegging Doom games.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Awesome video, and I too got slightly nauseous watching it. Some of the ports are brutal!
Very surprised about the GBA version, I had no idea it was that good. Now have to hunt that down and play on my GBA micro.
Very surprised about the GBA version, I had no idea it was that good. Now have to hunt that down and play on my GBA micro.
psychotron
Member
Loved this episode, cant even imagine how long it took to make.
And thanks to this thread I will be playing Doom 64 on my PC soon, very curious, tho I still want to see it running in Nintendo 64 hardware in a CRT at some point.
Something noone has mentioned either is the awesome SNES cart:
I had this version!! This and the black Killer Instinct cart were my treasures, lol.
There are in fact bootleg Doom 2 carts that restore red blood out in the wild. They are obviously fakes on the outside though
I really enjoyed that video. Personally I ha do issues with any of the technical aspects like editing or anything.
I'm. Surprised there isn't a port on PS4.. Seeing how good the ps3 port is made me really itch to play this game again.
I do have doom 3 on og Xbox though.. Could play that one.
I'm. Surprised there isn't a port on PS4.. Seeing how good the ps3 port is made me really itch to play this game again.
I do have doom 3 on og Xbox though.. Could play that one.
Naked Snake
Member
Funny you say that about the GBA version. I actually really wanted to buy Doom and Doom II on GBA back then, and I remember both being on sale for $10 or $20 each at the end of their shelf life, but I cheapened out (I was kinda poor) and didn't buy them. Only later when I wanted them again they were sold out and out of print and the price had gone up. I regretted not buying them for years. Until recently when I learned more about the details of the GBA ports, and this DF video relieved me from that regret since it showed me that it's not a good enough port for me to experience Doom as.
I actually never played Doom or its sequels for any considerable length of time, even though I've always wanted to. And I'd like my first experience beating the game to be with the PC version. And if I feel like checking out any of the ports I would probably go for the PS1 version, not only because it's so awesome, but also because I still have the hardware (and I adore it).
Doom 64 is the only one I played fully. Loved it. And it looks fantastic in this DF video.
nkarafo
Member
This is neat but how in the earth do you configure it? I only get one tiny window and some default keyboard controls. Nothing else.Thank you for this video!
The lighting in Jaguar DOOM was excellent. If anyone is curious to check it out, a faithful version on PC called Calico:
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Calico
Dragon1893
Member
I still remember Richard Leadbetter's review of Saturn Doom vividly, he wasn't pleased.
I feel sorry for Jon for having to endure those ports running at 10fps.
Great video, still remember playing Doom for the first time on a 486 like it was yesterday.
I feel sorry for Jon for having to endure those ports running at 10fps.
Great video, still remember playing Doom for the first time on a 486 like it was yesterday.
Mr. Pointy
Member
Doom for Switch better come on a red game card.Loved this episode, cant even imagine how long it took to make.
And thanks to this thread I will be playing Doom 64 on my PC soon, very curious, tho I still want to see it running in Nintendo 64 hardware in a CRT at some point.
Something noone has mentioned either is the awesome SNES cart:
HamsterExAstris
Member
Upgrade to an Xbox One X - the 360 versions are supported by backwards compatibility.
Wow, really? That's crazy!Aw man, no closed captions support.
electroshockwave
Member
That sounds like the title for a porn compilation.
That ipod video is way more powerful than a GBA though.
Yeah, but it's still impressive for the hardware. I've been searching around for the GBA one and finally found something that wasn't scrubbed from the internet.
http://worthplaying.com/article/2003/9/2/news/12159/
Shame I can't find the videos
soxinthebox
Member
Those screenshots remind me of Ashen on the n-gage but with a landscape screen instead of a portrait one.
There's another video series on YouTube with two guys playing every console port of Doom on real hardware. It's the most thorough work out there apart from DF Retro. I think it might even have been GAF's own Chubzdoomer? Anyway, one of them actually got so sick he had to use a barf bag offscreen from the framerate in some of the ports.
Not sure what the point would be. You never see the cartridge, and it's so tiny you wouldn't get much enjoyment out of looking at it on a display anyway.
sixteen-bit
Member
Strawberry flavored anti-chew coating
I'd see it every time I open my travel case.