Maybe under the old guard, but there's new management here now, son. Disagreements are welcome and encouraged, just don't get too nasty.
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Maybe under the old guard, but there's new management here now, son. Disagreements are welcome and encouraged, just don't get too nasty.
Night Angel
Member
Yo, moderation has nothing at all to do with whether or not what people say is so ignorant that it offends people. Nasty comments are nasty whether or not mods wanna wait until 5 posters in a row beg them to ban the commenter before they take action.
Suggesting that people should leave America because they have complaints is an ignorant ass comment that is inherently offensive.
...son.
You've had an account for less than a month.
Rocket Number 22
Member
So have i yet im a member not a junior, son. Just need me a tag and I will be a real member huh?
Have a new account doesn't mean people haven't lurked for years. Its an open viewing forum
7echnicolor
Member
i can't believe a real living human being typed this post
Uh huh. I'm sure that's it.
Rocket Number 22
Member
What would you prefer? A hive mind where people reee until the dissenting opinion is banished? Pretty sure all your chums went and made their own nazi like over moderated alt-left forum, you should go there.
I'm not sure what point you are trying to make there buckaroo
Night Angel
Member
I think we'd all prefer to see posts that look nothing like the one I'm quoting.
Let's see:
Autism joke
Alt-left AND Nazi for people who disagree
Hive mind
Get out if you disagree
Yeah, that's a winner.
I think they call that quality discussion around these parts nowadays
7echnicolor
Member
please seek help
Rocket Number 22
Member
Then complain to a mod and see what happens, if im so bad surely they will get rid of me huh
You can't dogpile your way to beta-heaven anymore here
Night Angel
Member
Don't think I called for a ban, there, I just called your post shit.
Just like this one. You might be too alpha for the next bit, but here goes:
Honestly the irony of your last post is delicious. You complain about dissenting opinions being banished by people screeching, then call for dissenters to leave.
Maybe that's an alpha move.
Rocket Number 22
Member
Lord Thrappleper The 49th
Member
Bro brah boy listen son guv i can bench right are u listing right bruv cos i can bench 200 pounds right bro ya following with my little finger bruv.
U wanna start something boy son u cant finish bruv?
Anyone can be alpha online.
Rocket Number 22
Member
Okay you got me, I actually laughed at that. A cockney accent is never not funny....innit
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
Higher education is literally the only thing that is going to prevent a complete implosion of the US. Every field outside of service and trades require a 4 year degree. The best path to a livable income is through college, period point blank. As it is right now there aren't enough qualified US citizens to fill available engineering positions, for example. Where do you think companies are finding these qualified applicants when the US can't provide enough that are educated enough to be qualified and can also pass a drug test?
People go on about identity politics and then dismiss higher education as if it's some kind of option when it's a necessity. It's anti-American to suggest that college is some kind of bad thing that people should distrust or avoid.
When I read the political takes of some people, this thread is no exception, it astounds me how misinformed and misguided people are. Complete head-up-ass ignorant. We have our heads so full of shit that we can't even identify the obvious reality in front of us anymore.
It's all about how people feel anymore, selectively choosing facts that enforce what strange idea they want to believe in, reality be damned. For example, 'feeling' that university 'culture' is bad, so people should forego a degree, yet you will be hamstrung in every career field without it.
they want their open forum and non-dissenting opinions just so they can shut down the opinions they disagree with.
sans_pants
avec_pénis
Xenobureido
Banned
If I had to apply a label to myself, I'd say I'm left libertarian. But that's probably not entirely fitting either, since there's a myriad of topics, and I look at each of them separately.
My first and foremost position, however, is that of humanism, which I define as being in favor of everybody, and I mean everybody. I dislike extremists that keep trying to ruin the life of peole for 'wrong opinions', it's why I'm glad that users like Lime, CrossingEden and A Link to the P are gone now.
The world would be a better place if only everybody were allowed to live the way he chooses to. Unfortunately, 'compromise' does not exist for too many people these days.
My first and foremost position, however, is that of humanism, which I define as being in favor of everybody, and I mean everybody. I dislike extremists that keep trying to ruin the life of peole for 'wrong opinions', it's why I'm glad that users like Lime, CrossingEden and A Link to the P are gone now.
The world would be a better place if only everybody were allowed to live the way he chooses to. Unfortunately, 'compromise' does not exist for too many people these days.
Blood Borne
Member
Absolutely. But leftists don't want that. They genuinely believe that they know what's best for everybody and they want to impose their morals on everyone. It's why socialism always end in dictatorship.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
You literally did not know what the wealth gap was just a few days ago (did you end up looking that up?), yet you still feel comfortable railing against 'leftists' and socialism.
sans_pants
avec_pénis
so mods are going around editing posts now?
i dont think this is tenable
i dont think this is tenable
Don't you guys in the US have a political party that tries to shove Christianity into everything?
You mean like how the GOP always brings Christianity to a discussion about how much control women should have over their body?
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
I wouldn't have thought your post could have warranted that. Weird.
Night Angel
Member
Wrong party, bub. The right loves to tell people who they can marry, whether they can have birth control, and whoever or not they get to have an abortion.
Relativ9
Member
Scandinavia is not extreme left. Extreme left implies Marxism these days with identity politics at its core. Scandinavian countries are all capitalist democracies with social systems that have a heavy socialist flair but aren't completely socialist and not at all communist. And Scandinavians have very little patience for identity politics and overly "PC" public discourse.
It's we're well working systems that comes at the cost of placing incredibly heavy regulatory and personal freedom restrictions on people. Americans on both sides of the Isle would probably find many things to hate about living here.
sans_pants
avec_pénis
Erolive called us all cucks and they edited his words and deleted my quote of them
Actually there is no need whatsoever to spend 4 years to get a degree. 4 years is tradition pure and simple.
In fact what we need IMHO is a complete overhaul of the education system.
Man, this couldnt be more inaccurate. Republicans/Conservatives are the ones that want to use a book written thousands of years ago and a constitution written hundreds of years ago to dictate how we should live our lives today. Who we marry, what we do with our bodies, what we smoke/drink, etc.
Dems/Libs come with their own baggage but Im much more comfortable with their philosophy of governing.
themagicalkitsune
Member
I think all those completely healthy, well-adjusted individuals from that (old) gaf hating site have spent so much time in their own echo chamber throwing these phrases back and forth that now they can come in as proud new gaf members and reverberate such nonsense without it being too taxing on their brains. Seems like they can even jumble them up and make semi-coherent sentences with them.
Gray Rentable
Member
left leaning but abhor identity politics today.
Policies for the common good are something I am totally on board with.
its the screaming about discrimination in a mad horde that I hate. Join government, gather support, don't join a mob.
Policies for the common good are something I am totally on board with.
its the screaming about discrimination in a mad horde that I hate. Join government, gather support, don't join a mob.
RastaMentality
Banned
"minorities need to shut up"
Reverse Giraffe
Banned
I don't think that person was trying to say that at all.
Gray Rentable
Member
thanks for misquoting me.
try harder.
edit: too reactionary. I think that there are better avenues today to make an impact than gathering together as a crowd to protest. Just IMO. I don't think that this is a high-impact activity for the level of intelligence first-world countries have.
RastaMentality
Banned
RastaMentality
Banned
what do you consider high impact activity
Gray Rentable
Member
basically joining political organizations and doing the legwork to drum up support. I think that there are ways today to organize in such a way that real sustainable systems can be built to send the message out and educate people.
Discuss and act on policies in a better way.
Now this requires some dedication and education to understand but I don't see protests as the efficient way forward. If you think loud mobs are fine then let's just agree to disagree.
Are there no real leaders in these movements that can harness the energies of at least a part of those crowds?
No it means that many fall into the scheme of victomhood and blame other first instead of looking why you are in a situation you do not like. Read some artciles about it . thtre are tons of great studies out there as well.
Also your politic should not based on identity politics but rather support everyone. Shouting White privilege to people who barely survive with the work they have etc is not really helping anyones case.
RastaMentality
Banned
countless of these already exist... you just aren't paying attention to them because
surprise
protests are far more effective way of calling attention to issues
wont someone think of the poor white folks
Gray Rentable
Member
Those organizations exist but I bet a lot of the louder protesters don't even try to look them up either. Again I say there are better ways, and I wish that people pay more attention to those avenues than the unsustainable protests for attention.
I never said anything about effectiveness of calling attention. You bringing something up that I never referred to.
RastaMentality
Banned
i asked you what constitutes high impact activity and you said "drum up support" and "send the message out"
how do protests not achieve this?
i understand they make you uncomfortable but thats the point lol
Gray Rentable
Member
Protests devolve into chaos and noise quite easily.
Organizations try to build systems that last. Do you not see the difference?
I think identity politics protests are good at what they do: draw attention. Real change? Gather support for the politician that represents your group and make sure he succeeds.
I'm uncomfortable because i see protests as a waste of time, not because of what they fight for.
Rocket Number 22
Member
And what site is that?
Relativ9
Member
Exactly.
When the attacks in Paris happened a few years ago all of Paris took to the streets and marched for more openness, unity, and acceptance in an attempt to counteract the movements of hate, vitriol, and divisionism seen on both the extreme right and the Islamist end of things in Europe...and yet a few years later Marine Le Pen gained hugely in popularity and got a whopping 33% of the entire French vote. Because while the left was out on the streets yelling, the right was organizing, lobbying, marketing and forming alliances.
Now I think Marine Le Pen is a pretty despicable figure and certainly don't agree with many of her views, but it's no doubt which side of the political spectrum is more efficient at getting what they want. Even if what they want isn't the same thing I want I'd have to admit that.
Xenobureido
Banned
This doesn't really deserve more of a reaction than a big 'sigh' or some ridicule, but instead I'll reply seriously:
Yes, it'd be nice if someone thought of the poor 'white folks'. Because those are human, too.
Rocket Number 22
Member
That soy boy/s are trolls from the Bore, sharing the account and trying to get a rise out of people
and then you remember that jews again flee certain places in europe and not because of some skin head idiots but because of the imported Islamic antisemitism.
This has happened and is happening in france and sweden especially.
Or do you actually try to sell the fantasy that half of Europe turned to the right as soon as the governments ignored their constant warnings (that btw have been proven correct) just suddenly out of nowhere for no reason at all?
Playing willfully blind or ignorant isnt helpful.. Do we really need to read in the history books that the eurozone disintegrated because of a bunch of cowards refusing to look reality in the eyes until the end of europe?
Can we agree that losing the uk, half of europe turning to center right and the possible collapse of the eurozone should be enough reason/pressure to drop the charade already?