Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
I ain't fucking buying this shit EA cuz i see what you're trying to do and it ain't gonna work on me. The intention of this game was clear as day to us right from the goddamn beta and you can't change it now or ever.
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Have microtransactions just been removed from SW Battlefront 2? No, Im serious...
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iHaunter
Member
Available at a later date
Yeah...they're adding it right back. Don't be fooled by this BS.
Spooky Scary Skeleton
Member
Who are we kidding, this is EA. They will most definitely add it back by next patch or as soon as the outrage dies down.
Unknown One
Member
This is the same company that wish they added microtransaction into Battlefield 4, they won't learn their lesson.
Militant17
Member
Available at a later date
I don't mind if they reintroduce micro-transactions into the game as long as they don't bring back P2W elements, make them side-grades which are only available to those who buy them but not more powerful then base game content. So preferably they should just be cosmetic upgrades but logic and cynicism tells me they'll just reintroduce the system with some minor changes like everything easier to unlock and/or increasing credit payouts post match.
I don't mind if they reintroduce micro-transactions into the game as long as they don't bring back P2W elements, make them side-grades which are only available to those who buy them but not more powerful then base game content. So preferably they should just be cosmetic upgrades but logic and cynicism tells me they'll just reintroduce the system with some minor changes like everything easier to unlock and/or increasing credit payouts post match.
ultrazilla
Member
Missed first post by one just like the first shot at the Death Star....lol
Indeed, good job REDDIT and gamers for sticking to our guns(and WALLETS!).
NEVER, EVER SUPPORT PAY TO WIN.
And FYI, Boogie2988 aka "Francis" had an amazing video on how to fix the game that was very well done here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1be16By9fYs&t=5s
For now, I will be keeping my copy but was working on getting it refunded through Amazon.
EA, I know you're reading these comments. Stop this. Just stop it. You want gamers on your side, not against you. Good job regarding removing the microtransactions....NOW LEARN FROM IT
Catphish
Member
No worries. I'm not.
Two Pikachus
Member
Or maybe they're just being smart consumers realizing this is a PR stunt to get people to buy the game only to bring the plan back later? Source: their own words
Husky
THE Prey 2 fanatic
I... what? What the fuck? Is this real life?
... if it comes out looking as if they don't plan to add any shitty business practices to the game, I think I might actually buy this.
edit: >"The ability to purchase crystals in-game will become available at a later date, only after we've made changes to the game." nvm then I might not
... if it comes out looking as if they don't plan to add any shitty business practices to the game, I think I might actually buy this.
edit: >"The ability to purchase crystals in-game will become available at a later date, only after we've made changes to the game." nvm then I might not
ultrazilla
Member
If they bring back the "loot boxes" as cosmetic items(shaders, badges, insignia, etc) without the pay to win aspects(improved aim assist....sickening btw) then it's fine.
They should look at Overwatch on how to do them right.
But this is EA
In the words of Obi Wan Kenobi:
" You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious."
Crew 511A
Member
I guess that's the lesson EA has learned. Don't make it obvious you plan to screw people until after the holiday sales.
Tajaz2426
Psychology PhD from Wikipedia University
Like I said on Reddit, My son wanted this game and EA is the reason he will find out that Santa isnt real this year!.
Of course Im just joking. However, I couldnt believe what they were trying to do with this game. It was an absolutely evil attempt to hit children and adults with addictive personalities, to purchase these loot boxes by purposely making the game a grind.
I am thankful that I do not have that type of personality, but there are plenty of folks out there that arent as lucky as myself and many folks out there. I am happy that gamers on Reddit stuck together, got the media and governments involved.
Maybe this will be the final straw, as there are plenty of developers out there that do not use these types of ploys, having psychologists, lawyers, and other people to devise a way to make people spend their hard earned money on video games. Dont get me wrong gamers are to blame too, but these types of practices are there to prey on the weak.
A battle was won today, but the war will be long. These companies can and do make a lot of money if the game is GOOD. The whole, game developement has gotten more expensive is such a ridiculous statement. When you have a bronze, silver, gold edition, season passes, loot boxes, pay2win models on a full priced game, then it is time that we as gamers stop playing those games.
Have a good evening, everyone.
Of course Im just joking. However, I couldnt believe what they were trying to do with this game. It was an absolutely evil attempt to hit children and adults with addictive personalities, to purchase these loot boxes by purposely making the game a grind.
I am thankful that I do not have that type of personality, but there are plenty of folks out there that arent as lucky as myself and many folks out there. I am happy that gamers on Reddit stuck together, got the media and governments involved.
Maybe this will be the final straw, as there are plenty of developers out there that do not use these types of ploys, having psychologists, lawyers, and other people to devise a way to make people spend their hard earned money on video games. Dont get me wrong gamers are to blame too, but these types of practices are there to prey on the weak.
A battle was won today, but the war will be long. These companies can and do make a lot of money if the game is GOOD. The whole, game developement has gotten more expensive is such a ridiculous statement. When you have a bronze, silver, gold edition, season passes, loot boxes, pay2win models on a full priced game, then it is time that we as gamers stop playing those games.
Have a good evening, everyone.
What if they bring it Back tomorrow?
rokkerkory
Member
Aint fooling me it'll be brought back when the backlash has died down.
Eclectic Jabber Monkey
Member
I just checked, you can still buy Crystals in the Xbox Store. Maybe they will take them down soon?
When I pre-orderd BF2 during E3 this year Amazon Canada had the game on for $50 CAD instead of the regular $80, so I haven't cancelled my pre-order. DICE really improved BF1 as time went on (although that game was def not finished at release) so hopefully they can get the microstransaction stuff figured out this time around.
Worst case scenario I if I don't like where it goes I can maybe break even or come close if I decided to sell it.
BigBoss007
Member
Just the logic step after all the shitstorm. They make people buy the game because there are no microtransactions at launch, but they will reintroduce them in the future.
Hideous, greedy and shadowy company.
Hideous, greedy and shadowy company.
Bigmac1910
Member
prag16
Banned
They're greedy but they're not stupid. I'll wait and see what they do. They need to lay out some kind of road map in the coming days. Way too nebulous right now.
Fbh
Member
I guess that's good but Im not buying until they explain the plans after microtransactions are back.
Because right now it just sounds like a tactic to get people to calm down and boost sales through the movie release and Holiday season.....and then in January microtransactions are back and they are like "but we have boosted the rate at which credits are earned in game.....by 6%!!!!"
Because right now it just sounds like a tactic to get people to calm down and boost sales through the movie release and Holiday season.....and then in January microtransactions are back and they are like "but we have boosted the rate at which credits are earned in game.....by 6%!!!!"
Thug Waffle
Member
dude they said in the very same announcement that they were going to bring it back later (after all of us alrteady bought the game)
come on. don't fall for this shit.
come on. don't fall for this shit.
If this gets people to buy the game, then they've succeeded - they obviously need to sell more copies during launch week, so they do this. But there's no way in hell it's to be "nice" or to "listen to our players", it's all backpedaling to get more sales. "Crystals will be added at a later date", yeah, no shit.
Fuck 'em, don't buy it.
Fuck 'em, don't buy it.
They didn't remove them, they just disabled them for a bit because of the outrage. This is just a ploy to get a few more gullible people to buy the game/stop refunding preorders. Microtransactions will be back, they said so themselves.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
Disney wants a temporary halt to the bad PR it has been generating. It'll be back in no time. I'm kinda surprised it even went away after reading about how well Shadow of War has sold...
Stormblessed
Member
We already know from industry people how these companies weather these storms. It is almost certainly the case that someone high up at Disney told them to get their shit sorted. On their own, EA would trust to the lack of self-control of Star Wars fans.
Typhares
Member
(USgamer) EA: Battlefront microtransactions will tie into progression when they return
So yeah they just want to 'balance' things in the meatime please buy!
So yeah they just want to 'balance' things in the meatime please buy!
llien
Member
Wow, can't recall a bigger shitstorm caused by a game.
blackanother
Neo Member
Wait until they come back in before you purchase. I have a feeling if their numbers are good enough, they'll go back in the same way they were. Best case scenario, we'll get exclusively cosmetic loot boxes you can buy, with the progress loot boxes as rewards for playing.
Fbh
Member
If they are Smart, they will announce the return of microtransactions with some "good news".
They have to be like "So here is a trailer for the first free map comming soon and we have added new challenges with the new update.......and microtransactions are back "
No way would Nintendo pay the crazy price for the licence.
In an ideal world, Disney would licence Star Wars out one genre at a time/era at a time/on a game by game basis...but the EA deal netted them a much bigger payday.
I'd love to see rpg's, platformers, fighters, 2d games, VR lightsaber duels, racers, space battle focused games etc etc....but under EA it's clearly not going to happen.
The more companies who can take a shot at making a great Star Wars game, the better. It forces them to compete.
deriks
4-Time GIF/Meme God
A temporary hope
Toadthemushroom
Member
The action itself is certainly a noteworthy event that will impact future games in some way.
But really, in terms of a tangible difference today nothing has really changed. It's the same excessive and convoluted progression system. Its grind is mandatory for everyone, which I suppose is fairer on principle, but the system itself is still set up to keep players playing many hours longer than they would have if it weren't in place.
Since it's also built around random reward stat boosts Battlefront II is now just a game where it doesn't matter how good you are from your time spent playing single player or the previous game, someone who has been playing the game for longer than you now has an advantage.
But really, in terms of a tangible difference today nothing has really changed. It's the same excessive and convoluted progression system. Its grind is mandatory for everyone, which I suppose is fairer on principle, but the system itself is still set up to keep players playing many hours longer than they would have if it weren't in place.
Since it's also built around random reward stat boosts Battlefront II is now just a game where it doesn't matter how good you are from your time spent playing single player or the previous game, someone who has been playing the game for longer than you now has an advantage.
AugustNeon
Neo Member
I must say that I don't really understand what the big deal is to begin with.
Playing games are about just that; playing. Why does it matter so much if you win or lose? Isn't the real point of playing just to have fun while you are doing so? So the main question should obviously be if you think the actual game is fun to play or not?
This is also a team based competitive game so if one or two players on your team have some kind of advantage, odds are that there are similarly advantaged players on the opposing team. Which makes the match fair.
And even without the microtransactions there will always be people who play the game 10 times more than most other people do (who don't have that kind of free time). And those people who have the time will instead be the people with the unfair advantage.
The truth, whether people want to accept it or not, is that time is money. And some people have more of one or the other than others do. Why should we be biased?
Playing games are about just that; playing. Why does it matter so much if you win or lose? Isn't the real point of playing just to have fun while you are doing so? So the main question should obviously be if you think the actual game is fun to play or not?
This is also a team based competitive game so if one or two players on your team have some kind of advantage, odds are that there are similarly advantaged players on the opposing team. Which makes the match fair.
And even without the microtransactions there will always be people who play the game 10 times more than most other people do (who don't have that kind of free time). And those people who have the time will instead be the people with the unfair advantage.
The truth, whether people want to accept it or not, is that time is money. And some people have more of one or the other than others do. Why should we be biased?
Rhetorical Question
Member
What the... no accelerated experience™ at the time of purchase? No buy for me then... fuck EA.
Catphish
Member
It behooves one to read the entire thread.
Soleil rouge
Member
Fans of sports games are a bunch of sheep. They'd pay $60 yearly for frickin' roster updates.
Fbh
Member
Because competitive activities are more fun when the playing field feels even.
Because people prefer being defeated by someone who has been playing for longer or is more skilled and not someone who just spent more money.
Because the progression system has been designed to be grindy and time consuming just for the sake of pushing microtransactions. The game has literally been made more tedious to play in order to make spending money look more attractive.
And most importantly, because the game is $60 or more (depending on where you live and what version you get). It's not some charity I have to be thankful to. And when I (and lots of other people) spend $60 on a game we expect more than microtransaction fueled progression you would get in a free 2 play game.
AugustNeon
Neo Member
Since time is money, this makes no sense to me.
I could name countless games that have a "grindy" progression system without microtransactions and that hardly makes them better games.
Perhaps you and many other people have unrealistic expectations? You don't get this much potential entertainment and value for $60 in other areas of life. A few drinks in a bar cost the same amount for example, a nice dinner does too.
The amount of high quality content at launch and the amount of money and work behind it is really quite staggering. And the fact the all the DLC will be free is even more so. So why should the option for people with less time in their lives to skip ahead in their game be such a huge detriment to these facts?