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CrimsonFist
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(07-17-2017, 07:32 PM)
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Melonrabbit (1)
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Rac (1)
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Majority is 4
Kalor
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(07-17-2017, 07:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by NeckToChicken

...

There are two scum working off one another There is one scum fighting for their life.

Scum Blarg is covering for scum franconp Blarg checked franconp and got vanilla back.

LP died as an arsonist target. LP died using his ability on either Blarg or franconp, who was targeted by scum that night.

Melon blocked Fat to stop the arsonist and save scum Melon blocked Fat to stop the arsonist because townies would die.

rac didn't move night 3 because he had another mafia doing the night kill rac didn't move night 3 because he is vanilla.

Corn has been bussing scum all game because he's scum himself Corn has been hunting scum all game, and has guessed correctly.

Snake? Snake!? ...Kalor?

Kalor, I have a Blarg-style question for you. What is the scummiest single post/vote you've done all game?

The single most scummiest thing I've done? Of the top of my head it might be that I said I thought wee was town and never voted for them. I'd have to go through and see if something else is more scummy than that.
melonrabbit
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(07-17-2017, 07:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Blargonaut

fine

melon what were you doing N1 and N2?

N1 I might understand your refraining from using your limited Roleblock due to the earliness at that time, but during N2 after THAT D2? After that D2 Zubz flip and ME, why didn't you use a shot on me during N2?

N1 and N2 I was crying myself to sleep per usual because nothing made sense.

N1 -- I did hold off, yes.
N2 -- Zubz flip confirmed you were (at least partially) telling the truth. So I'm not sure why you would expect me to block you that night.
franconp
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(07-17-2017, 07:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by melonrabbit

N1 and N2 I was crying myself to sleep per usual because nothing made sense.

N1 -- I did hold off, yes.
N2 -- Zubz flip confirmed you were (at least partially) telling the truth. So I'm not sure why you would expect me to block you that night.

So why did you blocked Blarg N3?
melonrabbit
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(07-17-2017, 07:48 PM)
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.

Originally Posted by franconp

Why did you blocked Blarg?

He was a role cop.

Originally Posted by melonrabbit

Maybe.

We don't know his alignment and I waned to test him. Especially after he threw out Fran as a Doctor last second.

And I wanted to see what he would say, if anything. I would assume a Cop Town would mention it?

If you notice yesterday, he didn't reveal anything even after saying he would. Merely played around all day.

Originally Posted by melonrabbit

The only thing thus far we had established as true was Blarg knew Zubz role. The following day he confirms you but then pulls some shady shit with that doctor stuff last second. So, I blocked to see what would happen the following day and he spent the day making promises and the only thing he (seemingly) claimed for fact was that Neck was Vanilla, which if we believe Neck today, we know isn't his role.

melonrabbit
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(07-17-2017, 07:53 PM)
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^ as the above explains it was his behavior the following D3 that gave me doubts which is why I blocked him.
NeckToChicken
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(07-17-2017, 07:53 PM)

Originally Posted by Kalor

The single most scummiest thing I've done? Of the top of my head it might be that I said I thought wee was town and never voted for them. I'd have to go through and see if something else is more scummy than that.

In previous days you said you tentatively suspected Corn. How do you feel about him at this juncture?
Kalor
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(07-17-2017, 07:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by NeckToChicken

In previous days you said you tentatively suspected Corn. How do you feel about him at this juncture?

I don't suspect them. Part of my suspicion was due to the timing of their vote on wee but now that we know she was scum, I see no reason to suspect Corn.
rac
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(07-17-2017, 07:58 PM)

Originally Posted by NeckToChicken

rac didn't move night 3 because he had another mafia doing the night kill \

so dusk can't move either because its just as likely they get checked

he also can't use his role on me because that would show movement

leaves one other scum to kill if we are going to assume there are only 4 scum

i think their are 2 scum left
rac
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(07-17-2017, 08:04 PM)
Vote: Blargonaut
NeckToChicken
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(07-17-2017, 08:08 PM)

Originally Posted by Kalor

I don't suspect them. Part of my suspicion was due to the timing of their vote on wee but now that we know she was scum, I see no reason to suspect Corn.

Groovy. I agree with your assessment.

Originally Posted by rac

so dusk can't move either because its just as likely they get checked

he also can't use his role on me because that would show movement

leaves one other scum to kill if we are going to assume there are only 4 scum

i think their are 2 scum left

If I were to guess (that usually ends well), Wee might have been burning through her ninja shots at that point because she was on a time limit. They might have hoped a watcher role caught someone moving. If so they'd have a better chance of finding the arsonist under the guise of hunting them as scum.

Then again, both those shots might have already been used on the first two days, so there's no way to know.
melonrabbit
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(07-17-2017, 08:22 PM)
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Should I vote for Kalor so everyone's up on the board?
NeckToChicken
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(07-17-2017, 08:28 PM)

Originally Posted by melonrabbit

Should I vote for Kalor so everyone's up on the board?

oh, that's cold.
rac
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(07-17-2017, 08:33 PM)
so does everyone agree that a town aligned role cop exists in a game with 2 watchers, a motion detector, 2 sleepwalkers and a bodyguard?
NeckToChicken
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(07-17-2017, 09:05 PM)

Originally Posted by rac

so does everyone agree that a town aligned role cop exists in a game with 2 watchers, a motion detector, 2 sleepwalkers and a bodyguard?

Known town role roster:
Night watchman
Watcher
Sleepwalker
Sleepwalker
Motion Detector
Bodyguard

Known neutral:
Arsonist

Known scum role roster:
Switcher
Ninja
Vanilliser
???

Indeterminate alignment role roster:
Gossip
Role Cop
Roleblocker


A town role cop would be useful for: confirming sleepwalker interference, identifying switcher, ninja, vanilliser, and arsonist.
A scum role cop would be useful for: finding the arsonist if needed, identifying watching roles, possibly finding the roleblocker?

A town roleblocker would be useful for: stopping a night kill, stopping scum power roles, stopping the arsonist.
A scum roleblocker would be useful for: Stopping the arsonist, stopping watcher roles, getting past the bodyguard, possibly disabling night watchman's bulletproof (unlikely, vanilliser seems to do that), possibly stopping the role cop?


The only thing I get from this is: I'm not sure a scum roleblocker would exist without a scum role cop also being there. Meanwhile, scum role cop allows things like ID'ing night watchman then allowing the vanilliser to step in and kill them the next night.
franconp
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(07-17-2017, 09:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by rac

so does everyone agree that a town aligned role cop exists in a game with 2 watchers, a motion detector, 2 sleepwalkers and a bodyguard?

Actually yes. The sleepwalkers are there to screw with the watchers and motion detector results. Also scum had a 2-shot ninja.

The switcher would work to counter the bodyguard.

Scum had a vanillaizer too so a town role cop make sense. Why would scum have a vanillaizer if there wasn't one?

The town roleblocker is the role that doesn't seem to fit the design. Maybe the switcher to counter it. Or the remaining scum role.
rac
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(07-17-2017, 09:13 PM)

Originally Posted by franconp

Actually yes. The sleepwalkers are there to screw with the watchers and motion detector results. Also scum had a 2-shot ninja.

The switcher would work to counter the bodyguard.

Scum had a vanillaizer too so a town role cop make sense. Why would scum have a vanillaizer if there wasn't one?

The town roleblocker is the role that doesn't seem to fit the design. Maybe the switcher to counter it. Or the remaining scum role.

was thinking town roleblocker for arsonist?
rac
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(07-17-2017, 09:17 PM)

Originally Posted by NeckToChicken

The only thing I get from this is: I'm not sure a scum roleblocker would exist without a scum role cop also being there. Meanwhile, scum role cop allows things like ID'ing night watchman then allowing the vanilliser to step in and kill them the next night.

yes, whats the point of a scum roleblocker if there is no one to actually get the roles

they would have to guess blind every night with no notification
franconp
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(07-17-2017, 09:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by rac

was thinking town roleblocker for arsonist?

Maybe. But a scum roleblocker could work too.
Kalor
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(07-17-2017, 09:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by rac

was thinking town roleblocker for arsonist?

That's one angle for it but a scum roleblocker can be used for the arsonist as well, especially if one of them got doused.
melonrabbit
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(07-17-2017, 09:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by franconp

Maybe. But a scum roleblocker could work too.

Why would there be two scum roleblockers? The vanilla-fying role is already a kind of RB for scum.
franconp
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(07-17-2017, 10:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by melonrabbit

Why would there be two scum roleblockers? The vanilla-fying role is already a kind of RB for scum.

That's true. But we don't know if Dusk used it or not. Maybe he was the one that targeted Fat N3.

So we don't really know about your role.
melonrabbit
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(07-17-2017, 10:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by franconp

That's true. But we don't know if Dusk used it or not. Maybe he was the one that targeted Fat N3.

So we don't really know about your role.

Well, I explained my role several times and why I targeted Fat and Blarg.

Or do you need to ask me for the third time the same question?
rac
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(07-17-2017, 10:12 PM)

Originally Posted by franconp

That's true. But we don't know if Dusk used it or not. Maybe he was the one that targeted Fat N3.

So we don't really know about your role.

this feels like a huge reach to me

fat said he saw no movement that night not that he didn't get any info

do you actually think this is what happened? how would dusk know to one shot fat?
rac
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(07-17-2017, 10:15 PM)
Vote: franconp
franconp
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(07-17-2017, 10:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by melonrabbit

Well, I explained my role several times and why I targeted Fat and Blarg.

Or do you need to ask me for the third time the same question?

The same reasons you used for Fat can be used by Dusk. You admited that you weren't scum-hunting, just looking for the arsonist.

Blarg can't back you up as he was out of shots already.

Originally Posted by rac

this feels like a huge reach to me

fat said he saw no movement that night not that he didn't get any info

do you actually think this is what happened? how would dusk know to one shot fat?

I say is a possibility. What he reportes is just semantics. It's up to the mod how he report it. Also he didn't say not info regarding Melon I think? Didn't he said no results? Because no movement doesn't make sense with the roleblocker claim.

This is my last post today as I'm leaving work and can't browse. I'm fine with either racs or melon's lynch today.
CrimsonFist
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(07-17-2017, 10:27 PM)
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franconp
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(07-17-2017, 10:28 PM)
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When I said N3 meant N4. The one when Melo said she blocked him.
Kalor
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(07-17-2017, 10:29 PM)
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Didn't realise the day was ending today.

Vote: melonrabbit
rac
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(07-17-2017, 10:30 PM)

Originally Posted by franconp

When I said N3 meant N4. The one when Melo said she blocked him.

ok got ya

Unvote
Kalor
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(07-17-2017, 10:42 PM)
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I'll say this. Its really easy for someone to cause a tie at this point. I'd rather not have that happen but it's a possibilty.
rac
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(07-17-2017, 10:54 PM)
no results on the voting blarg?
NeckToChicken
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(07-17-2017, 10:55 PM)
Vote: melonrabbit
CrimsonFist
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(07-17-2017, 11:00 PM)
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Day 6 has ended
CrimsonFist
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(07-17-2017, 11:03 PM)
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Melonrabbit has died

You are a Mafia Goon. You are aligned with Scum.

You have no special powers except to vote during the day.

Additionally, you have a faction kill. PM me the command [highlight]Kill: Player[highlight]. Only one kill may be submitted per night.

You win when you control 50% of the vote.

Acohrs, and town, have won

Remaining PR's:

Blargonaut:

You are a [highlight]2 Shot Power Cop.[highlight] You are aligned with Town.

At night you may learn the power of another player. You may use this ability twice.

PM me the command Investigate: [Player] during the night phase.

You win when all threats to town are eliminated.

NeckToChicken:

You are a Gossip. You are aligned with Town.

At night you must send an invitation to another player. If they are still alive the next night, they will join you in a private chat for that night. The chat will not be reset after they leave. You must send an invitation every night, should you fail to submit one, your target will be selected at random.

PM me the command Invite: [Player] during the night phase.

You win when all threats to town are eliminated.

Full spreadsheet including night actions can be seen here

Well played to everyone
NeckToChicken
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(07-17-2017, 11:04 PM)
Oh my goooooood
Sorian
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(07-17-2017, 11:04 PM)
/flex

Carried the team again
acohrs
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(07-17-2017, 11:05 PM)
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Gg all.

Town, I will be taking that town MVP award for getting rid of half the scum team singlehandedly :P
Lone_Prodigy
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(07-17-2017, 11:06 PM)
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Blarg you owe me.
rac
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(07-17-2017, 11:06 PM)

Originally Posted by acohrs

Gg all.

Town, I will be taking that town MVP award for getting rid of half the scum team singlehandedly :P

thanks buddie
Fat4all
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(07-17-2017, 11:07 PM)
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Dang it, I coulda ended it yesterday :(

Good game to all!
Fireblend
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(07-17-2017, 11:09 PM)
I was cheering for you scum team :(

Acohrs neutral game too strong.
YesNOnoNOYes
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(07-17-2017, 11:09 PM)
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Congratulations players and GM for completing Just Mafia!

Gg townies :D

Well played scummies!

Acohrs MVP
Kalor
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(07-17-2017, 11:09 PM)
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That was a good game. Could have ended it a day earlier but it all worked out.
Fat4all
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(07-17-2017, 11:10 PM)
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acohrs pulling that doggo legacy forward
CrimsonFist
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(07-17-2017, 11:12 PM)
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So yeah, people figured this out, but the theme of this game was to give town more investigative roles, but also having more disruptive roles, so that town would have more information to discuss whilst not being too powerful.

In practice half the power roles died early, so there wasn't as much misinformation shenanigans as I was hoping for, although I did enjoy Blarg and Zubz claiming each others roles, that was a great gambit, shame it didn't work.

Scum were hurt pretty badly by the arsonist, and I think if that didn't happen, the game would have been very close. It was unlucky that two of them got hit, although they did miss their chance to stop the arsonist after they'd made themselves pretty obvious. I thought the arsonist would have a much harder time of things too, due to all the watchers and not having much protection against those, but again, they died early on.

Overall I think all teams played well, good game.
rac
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(07-17-2017, 11:12 PM)
what i found out this game:

i am a great scum

spec thread please
RetroMG
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(07-17-2017, 11:16 PM)
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All threads for Just Mafia are now open over on Outer Gafia. Good job, Town team!

The new OT will be open later today, I'm just waiting on a certain spider to wake up and log in. Keep an eye on the current OT, I'll link the new one there, and also in Discord.
melonrabbit
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(07-17-2017, 11:28 PM)
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Sorry Scum.

I've been sick all weekend and was running low on ideas :/

GG aco.
GG town.
franconp
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(07-17-2017, 11:30 PM)
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GG everyone.

It was a fun game.

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