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Dragon Quest Heroes II |OT| Alas, Thou Art getting a Switch Port Hero
- Thread starter Cornbread78
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Ah that's a shame. I just don't have time to commit to many games these days, so I'm not sure going back and trying to play through those other titles is really feesable. I really want to get into DQ though and thought with this being in Switch it would be a good place to start.
Are there any mainline DQ games coming for Switch in the near future?
Terrorblot
Member
Dragon Quest XI is on it's way to Switch. Most of the earlier games are available on mobile devices and the 3/DS ports of IV, V, VI, VII, and VIII are all fantastic. IX was native to DS, so you can play the bulk of the series on a 3DS. The Gameboy Color remakes of I, II, and III are pretty good too!
The only games that aren't really ideal starting points are V and VI (play IV, V, and VI together as they form a loose trilogy). The only reason I'd stay away from Heroes for now is it's getting most of its kicks as a fan game, you're not really going to get hype seeing a returning character if you don't know who any of them are.
Omegabalmung9
Member
Hopefully amazon delivers my copy today because on my order page, it says its going to arrive on Thursday.
This game has (a lot of) characters from 4, and some from 6, 7, and 8.
8's remake just released on 3DS, 7's remake is on the 3DS too but it's super long and oldschool.
4 and 6 were remade on DS, and I think they're also on mobile.
I will pick this game up depending on the quality of the PC version but it's going to crater harder than the first game.
The number of people waiting for the Switch version, plus S-E's usual complete and utter refusal to pour any marketing resources whatsoever into Dragon Quest games in the west does not bode well for sales.
Feeroper
Member
I didn't play the first one. I'm a big DQ fan, but of the mainline games. The only side game from the DQ series I picked up and enjoyed was DQ Builders.
I'm curious about this one - is it basically just Dynasty Warriors reskinned with DQ (not meant to sound reductive)? I was never too big on Dynasty Warriors - would that rule this series out for me?
I'm curious about this one - is it basically just Dynasty Warriors reskinned with DQ (not meant to sound reductive)? I was never too big on Dynasty Warriors - would that rule this series out for me?
I never played a Dynasty Warriors game in my life prior to DQH1 and I enjoyed it quite a bit. The gameplay is admittedly repetitive but I still enjoyed it and the fan service was more than enough to keep me interested. Apparently DQH1 is less of a DW game than most DW games and this sequel is an even further departure from the usual DW formula.
Cornbread78
Member
Looks like this unlocks on Steam in about two hours. I added the link into the OP.
racketpunch
Member
What game can you compare this to? Looks interesting but I just want to know what I'd be getting into. Is this like Diablo where you go out killing stuff for loot? Is the community going to be better on PC or PS4?
Begaria
Member
Totally on my hit list, and I picked up the first one day one and loved it, but sadly I just don't have the time to justify buying DQHeroes 2 right now since I still have to complete the likes of Persona 5, Nier, Yakuza 0, etc. I'll be picking it up on PC immediately when I can slot the game in.
Setzer
Member
I love Dragon Quest but I wasn't a fan of the first game. I had issues with the combat and camera but also don't enjoy this particular genre. Never did like the Dynasty Warrior games but I thought something set in the DQ universe would change my opinion of it. I will still buy they second game nonetheless as I want to show my support for DQ in the West. Gotta do my part to ensure DQ XI gets localized for a US release!
sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
Played the PSN demo a week or so ago. Graphically it seemed alot sharper than the first one, and the level i played seemed alot larger. Something felt off to me though about the controls.....almost seemed a bit floaty and non-responsive at times.
Cornbread78
Member
It's more of an action rpg/musou cross-over (Dynasty Warriors/Dragon Age for this game). I would initially say that the PS4 community would be larger, but you really never know these days..
https://youtu.be/9EQa6VBmebQ Recorded the opening half hour with english on PS4pro with no commentary if people just want to see it for themselves. Really good even 3 hours in.
Retrofluxed
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I picked it up for PC on Greenman when it was up for $46. Looking forward to playing tonight.
Cornbread78
Member
reviews are all coming in now. It's sitting at 80 meta.
Eclectic Sk3ptic
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For the those playing on PC, the preset resolutions (including 1440p, and 2160p) only work if your desktop is set to the desired resolution and scaling is no higher than the default 100%. I had 4K at 200% but that limits the rendering resolution to 1080p. Once again, it appears Koei Tecmo is incapable of putting out a proper PC port that supports arbitrary resolutions. Frame rate is capped at 60fps as usual.
Robobandit
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Did you right-click the executable, go to compatibility and tell it to disable DPI scaling?
I have to do that for most games..
Stranger In The Alps
Member
Ugh. Tecmo-Koei strikes again. They are very inconsistent with this. Some warriors games do this, others don't. Was hoping to eventually run through this with a couple of friends but I refuse to make my first run a solo one.
Eclectic Sk3ptic
Member
I hear you, but that doesn't seem to have any effect at all. Thanks!
How's performance for you? Volumetric fog, and point light shadows absolutely murder performance on my system at any resolution.
1080ti @ 2,038Mhz
5820K @ 4,300Mhz
32GB
Windows x64
This is the worst. In order to play through and entire campaign with a friend, at least one of the two will end up beating the game twice. That's too monotonous for me.
Irishonion
Member
Really liked the first one. Though unfortunately fatigue set in after about 15 hours, so got my monies worth anyway.
Really wish we knew about switch version, this feels like a fantastic pick up and play title on the go even. But really like trophies on ps4.
Really wish we knew about switch version, this feels like a fantastic pick up and play title on the go even. But really like trophies on ps4.
Frankly I don't see why you would have time to play a newly-released game but not an older game more appropriate for someone new to DQ. I still recommend you check out the titles I recommended previously.
DQ XI is coming out on Switch to answer your question.
What frame rates are you getting at 4K with all the bells and whistles? The game does not look demanding whatsoever. But it's a Koei Tecmo/Omega Force port.
I bought the game today and will probably refund it if it has the same performance issues as Berserk. Which it probably does because it's the same crappy engine they always use.
PC players who want some additional antialiasing,
here's a prepackaged ReShade2.0 + SweetFX set up for SMAA and mild sharpening.
I tried ReShade3, but that version crashes on startup. ReShade2 works fine though.
here's a prepackaged ReShade2.0 + SweetFX set up for SMAA and mild sharpening.
I tried ReShade3, but that version crashes on startup. ReShade2 works fine though.
Eclectic Sk3ptic
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Everything maxed at 4K affords me between 40-60fps at ~60-70% GPU utilization and ~10-15% CPU utilization. For some reason the game can't take full advantage of my system. Both GPU and CPU are running at "max performance" power states, so this shouldn't be happening. In any case, some folks over on Steam claim to have "no problems at all", so there's a pretty good chance you won't have any issues either. =)
Yeah... those same people same the same thing about every Koei Tecmo port. This sounds like the same issue that some of their other games have with GPU utilization. I think Berserk was the same way for me.
GhostTrick
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When I first launched the game and play it, GPU usage wasn't a problem and it'd use my GPU to its fullest hence giving me constant 60fps.
I relaunched it and now it doesn't use all of it, sticking to 55fps or so. Wtf is going on.
Robobandit
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this game won't even start in 1440p for me.. not sure what's going on there..
it'll work in windowed 1440p.. but as soon as I change it to fullscreen, it freaks out. I have my desktop set to 2560x1440 and the DPI scaling @ 100%.. so it should be able to handle this..yet somehow..
it'll work in windowed 1440p.. but as soon as I change it to fullscreen, it freaks out. I have my desktop set to 2560x1440 and the DPI scaling @ 100%.. so it should be able to handle this..yet somehow..
Eclectic Sk3ptic
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I see. I'm still hoping you won't have any problems with your Titan Xp, but if you do please let us know.
Yup, it stays around 55fps most of the time. It's a stutter fest.
It sounds like porting amateur hour at Koei Tecmo as usual. :-/
GhostTrick
Banned
Robobandit
Member
lol what
GhostTrick
Banned
Yeah, I did that again.
When I alt+tab and open a youtube video (leave it pause) I get 60fps constantly.
When I close the video, I get to 50fps.
Eclectic Sk3ptic
Member
GhostTrick
Banned
Come on, stop lying!I'm literally laughing out loud here!
I'm not kidding. I'm 100% serious. Try it.
Eclectic Sk3ptic
Member
I had a feeling you weren't kidding. One video didn't do much for me, but 3 videos open in the background did the trick. What the heck, eh? Wow.
You'll be fine once they patch whatever is causing the bottleneck.
GhostTrick
Banned
I guess something may tell the game to not fully use the gpu or whatever. Opening a youtube video kicked that thing though.
Eclectic Sk3ptic
Member
Yeah, that's pretty interesting. It's really weird that setting both CPU and GPU to "max performance" doesn't do anything, but playing the vids in the background somehow bypasses whatever is causing the problem.