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mike4001_
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(06-27-2016, 10:28 PM)
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Where to I write to, to get my 30 € back ?

I purchased content and either want to use it or get my money back.
//DEVIL//
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(06-27-2016, 10:28 PM)
I am seriously laughing at this. Xbox fitness was probably the only thing that I kept on using when I had my xbox. Now I feel more glad that I sold my xbox one last week. what the hell man.
The Albatross
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(06-27-2016, 10:29 PM)
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Wow this part sucks:

On July 1, 2017, Xbox Fitness (and all associated content) will no longer be available for download/play. This includes content you’ve purchased. At that time, Xbox Fitness will no longer be available for download from Xbox Marketplace and content will not be available for play from the Xbox Marketplace nor within the game. Xbox Fitness users will no longer be able access Xbox Fitness and the associated workouts/programs.

I thought about buying fitness subscriptions for this but decided not to because of my lack of commitment. Now my laziness looks like a good financial decision.

That sucks... I feel like if you bought the content you should be able to keep it offline...
platocplx
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(06-27-2016, 10:29 PM)
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On July 1, 2017, Xbox Fitness (and all associated content) will no longer be available for download/play. This includes content you’ve purchased. At that time, Xbox Fitness will no longer be available for download from Xbox Marketplace and content will not be available for play from the Xbox Marketplace nor within the game. Xbox Fitness users will no longer be able access Xbox Fitness and the associated workouts/programs.

We honestly need legislature in place about things we purchase digitally. This is wholly unacceptable.

I'm still pissed that i cant even export books i bought through apples store to any other store. like what the fuck.
Zenner
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(06-27-2016, 10:29 PM)
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Gonna miss this; still, there's a year left for most of the workouts. I wouldn't be happy if I'd bought any of the routines, though.

Someone asked about Kinect games in development:

Kung Fu for Kinect came out just a few days ago.

Still waiting on ID@Xbox games: Fru ( 2014 E trailer ) , and the 5-player couch co-op Firestarter one (forgot the name) with 4 water-spirits trying to extinguish the Fire Demon. Been a loooooong time since either was mentioned officially, but ya never know.
Banjo-Kazooie
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(06-27-2016, 10:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by Swass

Absolute BS.. I recently purchased P90X Xbox Fitness version with the expectation of being able to use it for many years to come just like I can use the DVD sets indefinitely, not for what is essentially a 1 year license. Microsoft should be giving at least partial refunds for this..

If you just bought it I'm sure support will give you a refund. Contact them
mike4001_
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(06-27-2016, 10:31 PM)
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We should all tweet Phil Spencer and ask him how we get our money back!
watership
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(06-27-2016, 10:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by Iorv3th

Why can't it just be an offline game like the fitness kinect games on 360?

The only way for MS to get the specific workouts and personalities was to pay 3rd parties for content licenses. Payments go away, and it's all gone.
SOR5
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(06-27-2016, 10:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sydle

Yeah, I think this thread is already longer than the OT.

This is the first time I've seen people outside of the official website mention Xbox Fitness

Ever

Seriously, from 2013-2016



Still shit but you can see what happened
anothertech
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(06-27-2016, 10:34 PM)
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WHAT THE FCK

My family uses this regularly. We bought most of the content available. And we have till next year to use it???

What is this shit!????
Aggie CMD
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(06-27-2016, 10:35 PM)
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This is my most used app/game on Xbox One. There is no service that I could be more disappointed in loosing than this one. The MOSSA workouts are so good.
watdaeff4
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(06-27-2016, 10:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by SO5

This is the first time I've seen people outside of the official website mention Xbox Fitness

Ever

Seriously, from 2013-2016

Was brought up in threads from time-to-time in the past (usually Kinect-related threads).

I think this will get more traffic due to the "hey, if you bought shit, you will lose it" angle.

This has always been an underlying fear of the all-digital future, before it was all what-ifs, then P.T. happened, but was played off as being only a demo and no one had to pay for it.

Now we have a paid example.
outunderthestars
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(06-27-2016, 10:37 PM)

Originally Posted by mike4001_

We should all tweet Phil Spencer and ask him how we get our money back!

I like this idea.
//DEVIL//
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(06-27-2016, 10:38 PM)

Originally Posted by Sydle



I think this thread is already longer than the OT.


Ok I laughed at this lol
watdaeff4
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(06-27-2016, 10:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by mike4001_

We should all tweet Phil Spencer and ask him how we get our money back!

I didn't pay for any of the content on Xbox Fitness, but would love to see people who did bombard him with tweets just to see what the response is.

IMO how MS handles this (if there is a negative backlash) will significantly influence my future digital vs. physical purchases. Not just from them, but Sony as well. I already know how Nintendo handles it, makes me rebuy every generation at a "discounted price."
Ducayne
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(06-27-2016, 10:40 PM)
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Pretty bummed about this. Live in NYC and only had the apartment space for a few months to fully be able to enjoy the workouts. I ended up buying two programs @ 60 bucks each.

I'm moving a few months to a much bigger space and was looking forward to using these again. Shame they aren't refunding/discounting or letting you KEEP the workouts you bought (considering they just added a download option a few months back).
Valkyr1983
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(06-27-2016, 10:40 PM)

Originally Posted by watdaeff4

Was brought up in threads from time-to-time in the past (usually Kinect-related threads).

I think this will get more traffic due to the "hey, if you bought shit, you will lose it" angle.

This has always been an underlying fear of the all-digital future, before it was all what-ifs, then P.T. happened, but was played off as being only a demo and no one had to pay for it.

Now we have a paid example.

Exactly. This topic SHOULD be more popular than an OT, it has far reaching implications.
Montresor
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(06-27-2016, 10:41 PM)
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Why are downloadable Rock Band songs still playable offline for me?

And why are downloadable and in-game Xbox Fitness workouts no longer playable after July 2017?

What the hell? What is the fucking difference? This is really dumb. Okay, make the game no longer downloadable. But why isn't this stuff playable offline?
DC1
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(06-27-2016, 10:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chitown B

yeah, we all have different tastes, don't we?

Well, I NEVER!

Its all good friend. Just jumping into a thread after seeing/reading that one of the most integrated fitness app is being sunset.
watership
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(06-27-2016, 10:42 PM)
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Xbox Fitness is the new 1 vs 100. Not enough people played it, it went away. Now it's the greatest thing and MS sucks.
Captain Zyrain
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(06-27-2016, 10:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Montresor

Why are downloadable Rock Band songs still playable offline for me?

And why are downloadable and in-game Xbox Fitness workouts no longer playable after July 2017?

What the hell? What is the fucking difference? This is really dumb. Okay, make the game no longer downloadable. But why isn't this stuff playable offline?

Most likely how the licenses were obtained.
Valkyr1983
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(06-27-2016, 10:43 PM)

Originally Posted by Chitown B

Have you ever gone to a concert? Likely $60ish for a popular band. And then that experience is gone (disposable). And that's for less than 4 hours.

You're too used to your current mindset. That's not how games are working moving forward. Rarely are any games that are shut down primarily disc based games anyway.



it's "Kinect." Not sure if you're being facetious or ignorant.

MS has pretty much fully ditched it, and most other publishers too. Considering you can't buy an S packaged with one, that means it's over.

No I haven't gone to a concert

I've been buying games for 20 plus years that still work and will likely always work. Why should I be OK with them no longer lasting forever based on a server status? Paying the same to lose rights?

I don't view games as temporary.

Will all my blu ray movies shut down some day? What's the difference?
w0s
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(06-27-2016, 10:43 PM)
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They really screwed up Xbox fitness. I was super excited about it and doing p90x and getting scored would have been awesome. I'm the end the content wasn't there or just came
Out to early. I think this was a huge missed opportunity and could have really helped Kinect if they integrated it better.
SOR5
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(06-27-2016, 10:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by watership

Xbox Fitness is the new 1 vs 100. Not enough people played it, it went away. Now it's the greatest thing and MS sucks.

Holy shit yes

I actually had this reaction, I barely played it but when it was taken away I felt like I got mugged

I wonder what the psychological reason is
LukasTaves
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(06-27-2016, 10:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by ps3ud0

Is anyone actually actively making Kinetic games? Particularly MS published? I dont see the value of having support when theres little revenue coming out of it.

To add to my last post - I was talking about some QoL device that isnt Xbox branded

ps3ud0 8)

At this point supporting it means just having an extra usb port on the motherboard.

Also, Ms added kinect support to uwp, devs will be able to make games and apps for it if there's demand and since Ms doesn't need to align it to the console it wil likely continue to be developed as research.
watdaeff4
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(06-27-2016, 10:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by Valkyr1983

No I haven't gone to a concert

I've been buying games for 20 plus years that still work and will likely always work. Why should I be OK with them no longer lasting forever based on a server status? Paying the same to lose rights?

I don't view games as temporary.

Will all my blu ray movies shut down some day? What's the difference?

Good grief, you and I are on such a same wavelength. Fist-bump.

My mind is blown that people are saying "stop yelling at the clouds, this is the future, accept it"

This isn't a minor change, this is major if that is how the medium is taking us.

Originally Posted by SO5

Holy shit yes

I actually had this reaction, I barely played it but when it was taken away I felt like I got mugged

I wonder what the psychological reason is

Did you pay for 1 vs. 100? Do people who paid for content for Xbox fitness have a right to be concerned/upset?
outunderthestars
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(06-27-2016, 10:46 PM)

Originally Posted by watership

Xbox Fitness is the new 1 vs 100. Not enough people played it, it went away. Now it's the greatest thing and MS sucks.

Except nobody paid $60 for 1 vs 100.
Banjo-Kazooie
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(06-27-2016, 10:47 PM)
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I bet the contracts were coming up and they had to weigh (heh) how many people were using the service based on how much those costs.

I will say though, it's always weird seeing people come out of the woodworks whenever something gets shut down, but they aren't vocal about how they use the service otherwise, which might help others know about it and keep it alive :P
RichiRamjag
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(06-27-2016, 10:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by TheYanger

Because most of the people I'm responding to don't even own an xbox one and are trying to use this as some "MS is the badguy" narrative.

You've certainly responded to folks who have outright said they use the service. Not sure why there is a need for damage control. X company doing it too doesn't make it any better. It's not a good look in any case.
Jeels
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(06-27-2016, 10:51 PM)
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Wait, I have spent money to purchase content on Xbox Fitness...

In a year I wont be able to use that content? What the fuck.

Beyond it being the living room media player (PS4 is in my room for games), Xbox Fitness is the only thing I played on my Xbox...I am really upset right now...
SOR5
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(06-27-2016, 10:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by watdaeff4


Did you pay for 1 vs. 100? Do people who paid for content for Xbox fitness have a right to be concerned/upset?

No and yes
watdaeff4
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(06-27-2016, 10:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Banjo-Kazooie

I bet the contracts were coming up and they had to weigh (heh) how many people were using the service based on how much those costs.

I will say though, it's always weird seeing people come out of the woodworks whenever something gets shut down, but they aren't vocal about how they use the service otherwise, which might help others know about it and keep it alive :P

See my posts and Valkyr's, and think about it.

Thanks.

I even give how little I used it and what the concern is with this move.

Originally Posted by SO5

No and yes

Now you know why some of us are concerned.
BabyFaceKillah
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(06-27-2016, 10:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by bidguy

wow ms should get more flak for this

came in expecting this lol



and yeah they really should
lokimotion
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(06-27-2016, 10:53 PM)
That's really unfortunate. It was the only reason I bought the Kinect Bundle (and really my biggest reason to by the XB1 in the first place). I understand Microsoft's position though - clearly they aren't seeing enough revenue to keep this going.

Just makes me sad that there's now one less reason for me to keep the XB1 around since I've got a great gaming PC and now fitness is going away :( . If they enable Xbox 360 backwards compatibility on Windows 10 as well - I guess this will be my last xbox console (not saying it's necessarily a bad thing for MS - just an end of an era for me).
SOR5
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(06-27-2016, 10:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by watdaeff4

Now you know why some of us are concerned.

Ah so there's implications, well I hope reparations are in order who ever did use it
Banjo-Kazooie
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(06-27-2016, 10:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by watdaeff4

See my posts and Valkyr's, and think about it.

Thanks.

I even give how little I used it and what the concern is with this move.


Now you know why some of us are concerned.

Don't take my post as me not agreeing with you, I do. I'm merely commenting on how this thread is already longer than the OT where everyone who is upset and used it could have been talking about it, raising awareness, getting others involved, ect. This happened with Project Spark too. Never saw it talked about and then it came out it was closing and people came out of nowhere to talk about the game :P (at least in that case they refunded people though)
anothertech
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(06-27-2016, 10:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by SO5

This is the first time I've seen people outside of the official website mention Xbox Fitness

Ever

Seriously, from 2013-2016

Ya, MS should def get a pass since you personally weren't affected.

What a corporate apologist shitshow.
SOR5
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(06-27-2016, 10:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by anothertech

Ya, MS should def get a pass since you personally weren't affected.

What a corporate apologist shitshow.

Apart from the fact that I just said people should get reparations and I get the negativity, okay

I am not here to defend the honor of Xbox Fitness

If Xbox Fitness created as much passion as your single post it wouldve done better lol
Ronan_Berthelot
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(06-27-2016, 10:58 PM)
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Really upset about this ! I was playing it a lot.

Is there any other Kinect Fitness game on Xbone ? I don't know if Kinect Sport Rivals counts....
outunderthestars
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(06-27-2016, 11:02 PM)

Originally Posted by Banjo-Kazooie

I bet the contracts were coming up and they had to weigh (heh) how many people were using the service based on how much those costs.

I will say though, it's always weird seeing people come out of the woodworks whenever something gets shut down, but they aren't vocal about how they use the service otherwise, which might help others know about it and keep it alive :P

To be fair it's not like MS gave any warning that the service wasn't doing well.....
anothertech
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(06-27-2016, 11:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by SO5

Apart from the fact that I just said people should get reparations and I get the negativity, okay

I am not here to defend the honor of Xbox Fitness

If Xbox Fitness created as much passion as your single post it wouldve done better lol

You don't need to defend MS honor either and try to downplay things.
SOR5
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(06-27-2016, 11:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by anothertech

You don't need to defend MS honor either and try to downplay things.

I'm not downplaying things, I'm saying its shit but, you can kind of see why it happened.

Hope refunds are in order or they should create some offline transition
Banjo-Kazooie
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(06-27-2016, 11:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by outunderthestars

To be fair it's not like MS gave any warning that the service wasn't doing well.....

Should have assumed it wasn't since Kinect was unbundled and they stopped any Kinect game development internally after Kinect Sports. But I do know what happens when you assume... :P
Alx
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(06-27-2016, 11:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ronan_Berthelot

Really upset about this ! I was playing it a lot.

Is there any other Kinect Fitness game on Xbone ? I don't know if Kinect Sport Rivals counts....

There is Shape'Up from Ubi Soft, which is a bit sillier and more gamified, but not as good (in my opinion).
There is also a full Zumba Fitness game (there was already a Zumba program in Xbox Fitness that made it quite redundant, maybe not any more).
Also the Just Dance games have a fitness mode, although it's just arbitrary dances put in a sequence.

I guess I'm going to use those more once XFitness expires. :/
I can imagine the issue is about licensing, since there's no practical reason they wouldn't let you play offline. But they chose a shitty licensing model then, because there is no such time limitation for licensed games.
I suppose XFitness was originally supposed to be a subscription based service (the "free with gold" was always presented as a temporary offer), and later evolved into a "buy your program" model, which could explain such licensing. Still sucks.

Originally Posted by Banjo-Kazooie

Should have assumed it wasn't since Kinect was unbundled and they stopped any Kinect game development internally after Kinect Sports. But I do know what happens when you assume... :P

It really felt it wasn't doing so bad. There was a good support of the game, with new programs coming at regular interval, it's also one of the few games with regular challenges, and some dev info in the activity feed.
With that said, all of that was also true with Project Spark. Maybe an active community management is a sign of a software doing bad. :/
watdaeff4
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(06-27-2016, 11:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Swass

Absolute BS.. I recently purchased P90X Xbox Fitness version with the expectation of being able to use it for many years to come just like I can use the DVD sets indefinitely, not for what is essentially a 1 year license. Microsoft should be giving at least partial refunds for this..

As Banjo said, contact Customer Service, and actually if you don't mind, if you do, some of us in this thread would like to know what their response is. If you don't want to share, understandable......


Originally Posted by Banjo-Kazooie

Don't take my post as me not agreeing with you, I do. I'm merely commenting on how this thread is already longer than the OT where everyone who is upset and used it could have been talking about it, raising awareness, getting others involved, ect. This happened with Project Spark too. Never saw it talked about and then it came out it was closing and people came out of nowhere to talk about the game :P (at least in that case they refunded people though)

Bad news always brings hits, look at what US major media has done for the last 15 years.....

Also, again, the implications here for me and at least a couple others is more disturbing that the shutting down the service itself. How MS handles any CS complaints is telling for our all-digital future, not to mention games that are always online (Division, Destiny, Garden Warfare 2 just some ones I can think of I own). Between both Sony and MS I'm more digital than physical, and this is going to make me question buying digital in the future unless it's a great price.
Vyse The Legend
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(06-27-2016, 11:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by SO5

This is the first time I've seen people outside of the official website mention Xbox Fitness

Ever

Seriously, from 2013-2016

We were too busy using the damned thing:

And the stats above are OLD. It says I last played it in March, but I still use Xbox Fitness five times a week, every week.
SOR5
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(06-27-2016, 11:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by Banjo-Kazooie

Should have assumed it wasn't since Kinect was unbundled and they stopped any Kinect game development internally after Kinect Sports. But I do know what happens when you assume... :P

I know but I guess a lot of casual consumers just expect their product to work in the future, and I think that's Xbox Fitness' core but small demographic
Cherubae
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(06-27-2016, 11:14 PM)
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I play Xbox Fitness a few times per week when outdoor activities are not ideal (raining, too hot, etc.), and even bought the Yo:30 yoga program. A few months back they even added more MOSSA workouts to the free options too. XBox Fitness was the reason why I bought a Gold membership, wanted an XBox One to begin with, and is the only reason why I turn on the console; every "game" I want to play is either on a Sony or Nintendo console. It was much better than Wii Fit or EA's Sports Active program.

Total disappointment :(

XBox Fitness wasn't a program that needed an active discussion or forum topics about it to judge its popularity; the dang thing worked as expected. You turned it on, did your routine, then turned it off. It was there when you wanted to use it (minus server outages) and on standby when you didn't need it.

Microsoft already added an option that allows consumers to use the program even if they didn't own a Kinect. It also added the ability to save the purchased programs to the console so you weren't streaming them on demand. The streaming ones would cut out from time to time, but once saved to the console that problem went away.
Chitown B
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(06-27-2016, 11:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by Vyse The Legend

We were too busy using the damned thing:

wow, looks like you got your money out of it and then some. I don't think I've ever played a game for 500 hours and that includes Halo 3 where I played 4500 games. MAYBE Halo 3. And I spent $60 on it.
Shin-Ra
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(06-27-2016, 11:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by darkinstinct

Everything you buy these days is only a license. Even physical games only grant you a license that can be revoked.

Bad luck implementing the online-required DRM enabling that.

Originally Posted by Kolx

What a shitty move. When I remember all the promises MS made about Kinect I can't but feel disgust.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...-theyll-buy-it

Originally Posted by Phil Spencer

"A Kinect game relies on the successful Xbox One installed base," ... "I need to, as the head of Xbox, make sure that we've got a platform and a product offering that millions of consumers will love, and I stay focused on that. That's where I'm at now. We'll also continue to evolve what Kinect can do.”

Evolve doesn't necessarily mean improve but...

Originally Posted by Phil Spencer

"We see millions and millions of people using Kinect today. We've had over a billion voice commands used. The use of Kinect in people's homes is incredibly high. And because people are continuing to use it, it's an area we're going to continue to invest, in terms of making the experience better. And I think that makes building games in that environment even better. Consumers love the device; they love the experience. They'll buy it. They'll either buy it at launch when they buy their console, or they'll be able to buy it after the $399 console; they'll pick it up and add it on later. And we'll continue to make sure that experience is great."

That's not so ambiguous.

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