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firehawk12
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(06-27-2016, 10:16 PM)
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It's weird that they can't just make offline versions of the software, particularly when some of the things are the price of full retail games.
Vyse The Legend
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(06-27-2016, 10:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chitown B

wow, looks like you got your money out of it and then some. I don't think I've ever played a game for 500 hours and that includes Halo 3 where I played 4500 games. MAYBE Halo 3. And I spent $60 on it.

I should also note that those stats are OLD/out-of-date. I use it 5x a week, but it says the last time I played it was in March, which is false (used it yesterday).
fudgey_lumpkins
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(06-27-2016, 10:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by DC1

As stated by others, XBOX Fitness is the only redeemable product that I turn my XBOX ONE on for.

I bought my Xbox for Xbox Fitness and Dance Central. I'm actually quite upset at this news.
Lucifon
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(06-27-2016, 10:19 PM)
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Xbox Fitness is actually an awesome fitness tool. It's far superior to WiiFit in almost every way. Yet it was barely marketed at all. That alone was a huge mainstream selling point for the Kinect yet isn't advertised whatsoever.

A good tool which was poorly managed from Microsoft
Vyse The Legend
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(06-27-2016, 10:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lucifon

Xbox Fitness is actually an awesome fitness tool. It's far superior to WiiFit in almost every way. Yet it was barely marketed at all. That alone was a huge mainstream selling point for the Kinect yet isn't advertised whatsoever.

A good tool which was poorly managed from Microsoft

You don't even need a Kinect anymore! Anyone with an Xbox One can use it. Admittedly, that's not ideal as the Kinect does help you with your form, etc. But, you still could.
Chitown B
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(06-27-2016, 10:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by Montresor

Why are downloadable Rock Band songs still playable offline for me?

And why are downloadable and in-game Xbox Fitness workouts no longer playable after July 2017?

What the hell? What is the fucking difference? This is really dumb. Okay, make the game no longer downloadable. But why isn't this stuff playable offline?

likely deals were struck while the device was still supposed to phone home, which is how the licenses were set up. So they could be revoked and MS didn't have to pay any longer. Since it's a free to play game, the original stuff is always available to play - it can't be divorced from the DLC. So there is no base game framework to open for the DLC to work, if the base game is no longer licensed. Unless they put out a whole new "Xbox Fitness: DLC edition" I don't see that happening.

The game was a gift originally.
xzeldax3
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(06-27-2016, 10:22 PM)
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This is the digital future.
RiccochetJ
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(06-27-2016, 10:23 PM)
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Damn. That really sucks. It was really well done.

They should really let people download the videos for offline play even if the service itself doesn't work anymore.
SOR5
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(06-27-2016, 10:23 PM)
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So you got one more year to get in shape

Make a PLEDGE today GAF, you will get RIPPED
CrimsonEclipse
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(06-27-2016, 10:24 PM)
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Must not be used by many peeps. Are there any other alternatives for those affected?

Man, they are really gutting the life out of Kinect. Surprised they don't just sell it for like 80 bucks. Suppose the stigma that comes along with it, they wanna get rid of it.
JB2448
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(06-27-2016, 10:24 PM)
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Seeing the studios list on Microsoft Studios's website become less and less accurate is a bit depressing.
Are people going to be out of a job because of this?
CaptNink
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(06-27-2016, 10:28 PM)
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This really sucks! I was using this a lot and really liked it.

I'm so fucking depressed about this I'm going to eat a pail of ice cream.
DualEdge
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(06-27-2016, 10:30 PM)
Just turned on the Xbox and opened the Fitness app to see this awful message. This is utter crap. I can understand shutting it down as it couldn't possibly sustain itself, but to completely screw over those people who actually put money into this is a perfect example of why I will choose physical over digital whenever possible. Why can't they just make this offline and keep it "as-is" with no new content updates?

Like some others in the thread have stated, this is literally the only reason why I even turn on my Xbox anymore...
Kagoshima_Luke
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(06-27-2016, 10:33 PM)
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Removing access to purchased content is not OK and a reason why digital is still completely shitty compared to physical.

Could you imagine if Amazon reps came to your door and said, "we'll be back in six months to collect all of the fitness blu rays your purchased from us. We are saddened by this and are very sorry for the inconvenience."
yyr
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(06-27-2016, 10:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by aggienader

I meant Dance Central. Sorry. But yes it is a game... a game that uses the Kinect exclusively. You have to wonder whether this decision to shut down Xbox Fitness will have any impact on that game too.

As already mentioned, DC is a game, not a service, so it will continue to work even if Harmonix pulls the game from sale (dunno why they would).

However, it appears that no new Dance Central DLC has come out in over a year. It would not be farfetched to suggest that they're finished supporting it. =(
MrMephistoX
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(06-27-2016, 10:35 PM)
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Really great idea, but I kind of feel like Apple TV might have more potential. Fitness apps abound in the App Store right now.
SOR5
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(06-27-2016, 10:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by MrMephistoX

Really great idea, but I kind of feel like Apple TV might have more potential. Fitness apps abound in the App Store right now.

Yeah, that blue ocean Wii Fitness demographic is on phones or smart TV now
CrimsonEclipse
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(06-27-2016, 10:39 PM)
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Hmm, can't people do like the xbox feedback site to suggest keeping it for offline usage? They seem to listen to those if they pick up steam quite well.

Though...I'd suspect there might be some licensing/legal issues maybe?
PSGames
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(06-27-2016, 10:40 PM)
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This isn't acceptable. I paid $50 for Insanity. They should be issuing out refunds.
low-G
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(06-27-2016, 10:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by TheYanger

It's exactly the same as basically every other shuttered online service in the history of the internet. A year grace period is LONG by those standards as well. It doesn't mean it doesn't suck, but it's crazy that people are acting like this is some new low.

You might as well not buy anything on any digital service by that logic. They've literally all shut things down that people paid for.

Lol WTF? What company has EVER removed ALL access to a digital product that wasn't GOING OUT OF BUSINESS? This is fucking nuts. What is MS gonna do when they want to get out of making Xbox? Just going to shut off all access to every Xbox game you bought within a year? Fucking absurd.
Cleve
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(06-27-2016, 10:41 PM)
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What the fuck, this is really all I use my xbone for, and I just got my girlfriend interested in it too.

Why can't I continue to use the content I paid for in cached mode?.

What a shitty move.
Chitown B
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(06-27-2016, 10:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by PSGames

This isn't acceptable. I paid $50 for Insanity. They should be issuing out refunds.

they did for Project Spark and the Fable Legends beta. Maybe they will here too.
Possumowner
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(06-27-2016, 10:41 PM)
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Shame.It was well done to be honest,but there are apps on Apple (already noted) and Android which are almost as good now.
Stumpokapow
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(06-27-2016, 10:42 PM)
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The last vestige of the Xbox One's original vision
FStop7
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(06-27-2016, 10:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Stumpokapow

The last vestige of the Xbox One's original vision

The S still has an HDMI IN port.
Green Yoshi
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(06-27-2016, 10:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by watership

The only way for MS to get the specific workouts and personalities was to pay 3rd parties for content licenses. Payments go away, and it's all gone.

A company that buys LinkedIn for 27 billion dollars should not be stingy because of peanuts like these.
Captain Zyrain
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(06-27-2016, 10:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Green Yoshi

A company that buys LinkedIn for 27 billion dollars should not be stingy because of peanuts like these.

The company probably has 27 billion dollars for LinkedIn because they're stingy with peanuts like this :)
Emperor Bohe
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(06-27-2016, 10:47 PM)
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This sucks. This was like the only good thing that the Xbox One Kinect had
Toki767
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(06-27-2016, 10:49 PM)
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Xbox Twitter is telling people to contact Customer Support for refunds at least.
notworksafe
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(06-27-2016, 10:49 PM)
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That's a bummer, my lady uses it a lot. It's basically just workout videos with a score and Kinect integration. Surprised they can't figure out a way to make that work offline.
SOR5
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(06-27-2016, 10:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Toki767

Xbox Twitter is telling people to contact Customer Support for refunds at least.

That's cool but being able to download the videos surely shouldn't be that hard unless they have to constantly renew licensing
OldRoutes
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(06-27-2016, 10:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by notworksafe

That's a bummer, my lady uses it a lot. It's basically just workout videos with a score and Kinect integration. Surprised they can't figure out a way to make that work offline.

It's probably license related.
Jotaka
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(06-27-2016, 11:05 PM)
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Lift next?
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Gooch: The Destroyer
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(06-27-2016, 11:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by sixteen-bit

D.Va fitness

Sounds like fun.
The Real Napsta
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(06-27-2016, 11:15 PM)
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ITT I found out Xbox Fitness was free with gold.
BeforeU
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(06-27-2016, 11:16 PM)
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Never used it lol

RIP kinect.
DigitalScrap
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(06-27-2016, 11:19 PM)
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Oh well, this does suck. Sounds like the way Microsoft negotiated these deals they are required to continue to relicense/pay the content providers. I actually bought P90X on it and used it all the time. I guess I'll continue to use it until it stops working. smh

It'd be nice if those of us who actually paid for these things got a "compiled" version of the programs we paid for - basically a "standalone" P90X app that has all the videos in it.

At this point, I'm wishing I had just bought the DVDs.

Live and learn I guess.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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(06-27-2016, 11:20 PM)
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Can they add fitness videos to Netflix? What are they fucking waiting for? It's so mind boggling how business oriented that company is. They went from a simple idea and grew to this powerhouse, but they never accomplished any another major milestone. Netflix is now about signing business, because they've entered the filmmaking industry. Atleast do something different than signing the next Disney or Marvel movie. Spend that money on fitness videos and they'll make millions. Better yet, hire professionals and create a massive catalog of workouts. Then rake in the profits yourself.

Silly Netflix.

Oh and this was one of the best apps in Xbox.
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SystemUser
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(06-27-2016, 11:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by TheYanger

That's a lot longer than most online services that shut down give you.


They are cutting off playback of downloaded content. I am not quite sure how playback of downloaded content is an online service. I know that Microsoft has to run servers for checking the licenses, but I assume that it would use the same license servers as the games and video purchases.

Originally Posted by microsoftstudios

At that time, Xbox Fitness will no longer be available for download from Xbox Marketplace and content will not be available for play from the Xbox Marketplace nor within the game.


I can see cutting off streaming and downloads, but stopping playback of downloaded content seems weird. I wonder if someone could just download all their workouts and then just keep the console offline and set the clock back (in case there is a time based kill switch in the app.)
Gamezone
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(06-27-2016, 11:35 PM)
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And these guys expects us to use their own digital gaming store for games published by Microsoft.
Eskiboy
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(06-27-2016, 11:36 PM)
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So bummed out about this. I use it everyday and it's completely changed my life. Over 180 pounds lost using it.
Dreadnought
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(06-27-2016, 11:38 PM)
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Had a mini heart attack when I read "Microsoft shutting down Xbox@. Thankfully it's only Kinect stuff.
InsaneTiger
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(06-27-2016, 11:39 PM)
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Fucking dumb you can't keep the content you paid for.
Dlacy13g
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(06-27-2016, 11:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by outunderthestars

That really sucks, but seems a bit inevitable with the death of Kinect. :(

^^This.... still sad to see.
score01
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(06-27-2016, 11:53 PM)

Originally Posted by Alienfan

I'm sorry what? I can't play the workouts I bought? That doesn't seem legal? Surley that's protected under some consumer rights act

Games as a service - get used to it.
EGM1966
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(06-28-2016, 12:03 AM)
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Kinect now officially dead.

Of more concern to me is yet more evidence of the conflict between ownership of content and content as a service in terms of quickly money spent can be found to have nothing to show for it.
SOR5
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(06-28-2016, 12:06 AM)
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As someone who openly despises Kinect I want it dead but I don't want people to lose access to what they invested in

Games games games from here on in, traditional games that use buttons please
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low-G
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(06-28-2016, 12:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by score01

Games as a service - get used to it.

No, we won't. MS is showing that they cannot be trusted with our money. As soon as they tire of a product they'll simply take our money an leave us with nothing.
DC1
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(06-28-2016, 12:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by OldRoutes

It's probably license related.

Exactly.
TriAceJP
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(06-28-2016, 12:13 AM)
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This is probably because I uninstalled it a few days ago.

I'm sorry, guys :(

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