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|OT| French Presidential Elect 2017 - La France est toujours insoumise; Le Pen loses
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I'm sure you can be president with an ankle monitor.
DiipuSurotu
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Lepen over 40% is probably the all time low.
I'm praying the gods that Hamon can turn things over.
Funky Papa
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Perhaps I'm too naive but I'm still confident people won't let her win. And worst case scenario the FN won't win the legislative election.
And then there's this :
Going to be hard with his own party working against him.
Imp the Dimp
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Summary? German media isn't reporting.
Unfortunatly the lift of her immunity is only for the twitter pictures case. She' still has it for other cases.
picture Fillon in front of the LR HQ with an explosive jacket and his hand on a trigger
basically he stays in the race, and my guess is that they just don't have anyone for a B plan. It would be a bloodbath in the party, and they only have two weeks before they have to give the 500 signatures to the Conseil Constitutionnel in order to seal the candidacy.
Funky Papa
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I have to commend French conservatives for pulling such a stunt, though. You only see this kind of reckless, suicide behaviour among the left.
En Marche, Fillon!
En Marche, Fillon!
To be fair the french right has a knack for getting in trouble with the law...
Systolique
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Watching Fillon slowly drowning is the warmest of delights
Funky Papa
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Le Figaro readers/commenters are still living in their bizarre bubble, I guess.
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La droite la plus bête du monde.
Meanwhile, the fallout continues:
- Lemaire and his people are withdrawing their support for Fillon. They don't feel bound by their word as Fillon is breaking his own. I expect UDI to follow suit, as it's an easy out for them.
- Macron says there shouldn't be a judiciary truce because of the campaign (i.e. "Fuck you, you're not a special snowflake") and accuses Fillon of losing his nerve and being delusional in his attacks.
Meanwhile, the fallout continues:
- Lemaire and his people are withdrawing their support for Fillon. They don't feel bound by their word as Fillon is breaking his own. I expect UDI to follow suit, as it's an easy out for them.
- Macron says there shouldn't be a judiciary truce because of the campaign (i.e. "Fuck you, you're not a special snowflake") and accuses Fillon of losing his nerve and being delusional in his attacks.
Years of Dassault brainwashing. Their blogs and web exclusive content are even worse (Thatcherite FN).
From what is known is not exclusively the right... I guess since before Miterrand times no presidency was free of shady businesses...
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As expected, UDI is meeting this afternoon and their support for Fillon is now a debate. They're not a large political force but they have enough local officials for their departure to drag Fillon down even more.
I assume they're looking at the legislative elections right now.
I assume they're looking at the legislative elections right now.
Alx
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It doesn't seem likely, the right would completely explode from internal dissensions. Apparently Sarkozy is openly opposed to Juppé being candidate, and Juppé himself doesn't want to look like he's into shady operations.
See description from le Monde below :
If they dump him quickly. Unless I misunderstood somebody above said they have 2 weeks. However it looks as if Fillon is quite entrenched still.
Yikes, let's hope Macron can pull this off somehow.
French politics has always been scandal ridden as far back as I can remember as an outsider but this seems rediculous. Running with an indictment? Seems like political suicide.
Since LePen's numbers had dropped a tiny bit and Fillon was up again I was having nice dreams of a runoff without LePen
Alx
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Yes we are in a crucial phase of the pre-campaign right now. Between February 23rd and March 17th, all would-be candidates need to gather official support from 500 mayors in the country to be validated. It's usually a formality for major candidates, but time is running out for last minute changes.
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Pierre Lellouche (LR MP) is asking for Fillon to step down and the election to be postponed.
Unprecedented shitshow.
Unprecedented shitshow.
?! They can postpone the election?
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AFAIK, no.
It's just LR caught in the middle of a crisis and asking for a timeout while they settle it.
That's rich. Just what the election needed, more fuckery.
Putin doesn't even need to join in!
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It's a close call, but I don't think they can postpone the election now, since Fillon will only be officially candidate on the 17th, and he'll be indicted on the 15th. Had it been the other way around, they could claim that the indictment of an official candidate is a disturbance of the election and could justify a delay.
It's probably the reason why Fillon was so angry about the date of the convocation, because it's clearly a worst case scenario for him.
It's probably the reason why Fillon was so angry about the date of the convocation, because it's clearly a worst case scenario for him.
Funky Papa
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The hidden beauty about the French system (which I despise) is that if Le Pen gets trounced, Putin's ROI will be nothing but a big fat loss.
Here's hoping she doesn't make it to the second round.
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UDI announced they're out too.
Yes, but he could still target Macron, and I'm sure they can find and or make something up.
DiipuSurotu
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I wonder if Bayrou is having second thoughts lol
C'est oui
Why would he? He's still be behind Macron who seems to be the centrist candidate de jour
whyamihere
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This whole thing is insane.
I mean, Fillon getting to the second round against Le Pen and then getting indicted was always the road she had to the presidency. So in that respect, this is good?
But if Fillon doesn't drop out AND somehow makes the second round, Jesus Christ.
Can Fillon even drop out? Would it matter? This all just makes it more likely for Macron v Le Pen, which seems good because Hammon already had no shot.
I mean, Fillon getting to the second round against Le Pen and then getting indicted was always the road she had to the presidency. So in that respect, this is good?
But if Fillon doesn't drop out AND somehow makes the second round, Jesus Christ.
Can Fillon even drop out? Would it matter? This all just makes it more likely for Macron v Le Pen, which seems good because Hammon already had no shot.
DiipuSurotu
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Under Article 7 of the French Constitution, the Conseil constitutionnel can postpone a presidential election if one of the candidates becomes "incapacitated"
or dies
It's probably too late for him to drop out. There's no way the right could agree on a candidate in 2 weeks.
At this point the election might be Macron's to lose. We'll see how it goes when he unveils his program tomorrow to begin with. He's been good so far (and lucky af) but his inexperience might show at some point.
I mean, yeah, les républicains might aswell remain open-minded about their options at this point
whyamihere
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Oh my god, what a shit show.
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