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Hayama Akito · Oct 20, 2017

Holy shit man, you really don't know how I waited this. Almost 15 years since DeJap dropped the project...

And finally, is true: A complete translation of Tengai Makyou Zero (also know as Far East of Eden Zero) for SNES coming right on october 22.

https://twitter.com/RetroTranslator/status/921249534121984002

For those who don't know, this was one of the most ambitious RPG ever made on Super Famicom using the SPC7110, a data decompression chip that allows for more data to be stored on a cartridge than a typical Super Famicom game. The game also makes use of a real-time clock accessed via the SPC7110, which, much like recent games in the Animal Crossing and Pokémon series, results in different special events in the game taking place depending on the time of day, and even the time of year.

It works on a real SNES and the latest version of BSNES/Higan. I'm really, really hyped for this.

You can learn more about this franchise on this excellent HG101 article.

LewieP · Oct 20, 2017

October 22nd, Japanese time?

What is that in other timezones?

lucablight · Oct 20, 2017

Is the game any good?

purseowner · Oct 20, 2017

Is this real life

ElectricThunder · Oct 20, 2017

Such an amazing thing to see---sure, the one side game got situated awhile back for the GBA....but this is just marvelous!

Ekid · Oct 20, 2017

Hayama Akito said:
For those who don't know, this was one of the most ambitious RPG ever made on Super Famicom using the SPC7110, a data decompression chip that allows for more data to be stored on a cartridge than a typical Super Famicom game.

So I guess it's not gonna work on the Snes Mini ?

RRockman · Oct 20, 2017

purseowner said:
Is this real life

After 428, I'm not too sure.

Taruranto · Oct 20, 2017

Oh, hey nice. I'll bookmark it and play it... one day.

Hayama Akito · Oct 20, 2017

Ekid said:
So I guess it's not gonna work on the Snes Mini ?

Nope, confirmed.

purseowner · Oct 20, 2017

Hayama Akito said:
Nope, confirmed.

Disappointing, but the news is so astounding that it's hardly a dealbreaker.

Bitanator · Oct 20, 2017

Sweet been waiting years for this

Celine · Oct 20, 2017

RRockman said:
After 428, I'm not too sure.

428 was translated? Holy shit.

EDIT:
Oh officially translated too!

sixteen-bit · Oct 20, 2017

Apocalypse when?

Aeana · Oct 20, 2017

It's a really awesome game. I can't believe it's taken until 2017 to get an actual core Tengai Makyou game in English.

Hayama Akito said:
Nope, confirmed.

It won't work until someone modifies the Retroarch core to support it, which is possible.

Joey Ravn · Oct 20, 2017

Hayama Akito said:
Nope, confirmed.

That's Canoe, right? Doesn't RetroArch emulate the SPC7110 via its SNES9x 2005 core?

RRockman · Oct 20, 2017

Celine said:
428 was translated? Holy shit.

EDIT:
Oh officially translated too!

IKR? Get hyped! 2017/2018 is delivering on the subs, both offically and unofficially!

Aeana · Oct 20, 2017

Fully translated packaging and maps, etc have been released, btw.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/1rdmclp1kfpqkjo/AAB_mkjdbMm4IYqC5GqfCfhga?dl=0

Joey Ravn said:
That's Canoe, right? Doesn't RetroArch emulate the SPC7110 via its SNES9x 2005 core?

There needs to be an additional change made to support this translation since the ROM was expanded.

Also, please don't call the game Far East of Eden Zero. That's not correct. Far East of Eden is a prefix used for the name, relating to a book that the series is loosely based on, it isn't a translation of Tengai Makyou.

Hayama Akito · Oct 20, 2017

Aeana said:
Also, please don't call the game Far East of Eden Zero. That's not correct. Far East of Eden is a prefix used for the name, relating to a book that the series is loosely based on, it isn't a translation of Tengai Makyou.

I know, but I'm afraid this is the name almost everybody knows outside Japan thanks to nineties magazines.

BasilZero · Oct 20, 2017

My oh my, this is quite a surprise

Lunarwhale · Oct 20, 2017

oooooh god I can't wait to start this up soon. Been wanting to play a (core) game in this series for ages.

Hoping the SD2SNES gets an update to support the SPC7110 soon. I'd love to play this on native hardware if possible.

Sir_Crocodile · Oct 21, 2017

Man, that dejap project page is still up. Makes me feel old.

Really thankful for Tom, Flash, Doug et all for getting this done. Looks to have been a real labour of love too.

InfiniteNine · Oct 21, 2017

Oh wow, I'll have to read up on this to see if I'd be into it.

inner-G · Oct 21, 2017

Aeana said:
Also, please don't call the game Far East of Eden Zero. That's not correct. Far East of Eden is a prefix used for the name, relating to a book that the series is loosely based on, it isn't a translation of Tengai Makyou.

The title more literally would be something like: devil world outside of heaven

Heres a YouTube vid that gives an overview and some of the game systems and some wonkiness with the dates (I guess it only counts up to 2014): https://youtu.be/NTXPLQJzhfY

Teknoman · Oct 21, 2017

Cant wait to get my cart translated. Been holding onto it for what seems like forever now.

Aters · Oct 21, 2017

I want a translation of 2.

Augemitbutter · Oct 21, 2017

wow. always wanted to play this series.

when's Growlanser?

KainXVIII · Oct 21, 2017

Will play on Retroarch 😀

Palette Swap · Oct 21, 2017

Great news. I played this back when it was released, and I have great memories of the game. I remember it included a clock, I daren't check my cartridge to see if its still working.

Thanks to this thread, I also learned 428 had been confirmed for the west.

Machi when?

Aeana · Oct 21, 2017

It's out now for people who requested it early. Still waiting on Romhacking.net to update so everyone can get it.

I'll say though that it works beautifully with the new Higan retroarch core!

FallingEdge · Oct 21, 2017

oh wow, this is Far East of Eden? I remember dying to play this game. This is amazing actually haha.

Santar · Oct 21, 2017

Excited to finally give this a go!
Does anybody know if it'll work on Snes9x 1.54?
I prefer it over Retroarch.

cj_iwakura · Oct 21, 2017

inner-G said:
The title more literally would be something like: devil world outside of heaven

The Outcast Demon Realm?

Aeana · Oct 21, 2017

Santar said:
Excited to finally give this a go!
Does anybody know if it'll work on Snes9x 1.54?
I prefer it over Retroarch.

You need a specifically modified version of snes9x, which is available here.

Santar · Oct 21, 2017

Aeana said:
You need a specifically modified version of snes9x, which is available here.

Thanks for the link!
Hopefully the fix will be integrated into the next regular version of Snes9x.

manzo · Oct 21, 2017

And I just replaced the dead battery in my own cart because the RTC kept resetting.

So how do I get to play this on real hardware? Replacing the mask roms?

MrT-Tar · Oct 21, 2017

I've always wanted to play this series, so this is very welcome news!

I remember reading a while ago that Working Designs and/or Gaijinworks were considering officially translating and localising the Saturn game (4th Apocalypse iirc).

Vamphuntr · Oct 21, 2017

Carts seems affordable on ebay too. I'll buy this as I never played anything in this series before which is kind of rare for me RPG wise. Screenshots look really great.

Beartruck · Oct 21, 2017

I hope the humor comes across in the translation. I played a bit of Tengai Makyou IV: The apocalypse with a guide and the game is so much weaker when you don't understand the jokes.

Sir_Crocodile · Oct 21, 2017

up btw

http://www.romhacking.net/translations/3243/

Aeana · Oct 21, 2017

Unfortunately, it seems that the only emulator that is playing this game completely correctly is bsnes v087. Very, very old. The newest Higan versions -- even with the Japanese ROM! -- don't seem to save/restore the RTC correctly, which is a major hit to this game. The modified snes9x also seems to have a similar issue. Correct functioning of the real-time clock is extremely important.

I really hope this can be sorted out soon.

Voliko · Oct 21, 2017

What do I need to get this to work on a real SNES? All I have is an ancient 90s era flash cart lol

Tizoc · Oct 21, 2017

Aeana said:
Unfortunately, it seems that the only emulator that is playing this game completely correctly is bsnes v087. Very, very old. The newest Higan versions -- even with the Japanese ROM! -- don't seem to save/restore the RTC correctly, which is a major hit to this game. The modified snes9x also seems to have a similar issue. Correct functioning of the real-time clock is extremely important.

I really hope this can be sorted out soon.

I never expected a specific hacking or modding method on a ROM could affect whether certain emus can run it :X

Aeana · Oct 21, 2017

Voliko said:
What do I need to get this to work on a real SNES? All I have is an ancient 90s era flash cart lol

It uses a special chip called the SPC7110. You won't be able to make it work on a real SNES unless you have a donor cart with the same chip (so, most likely, the Japanese version of this game itself).

preta · Oct 21, 2017

This game isn't connected to any others in the series, right, or at least not strongly?

Sir_Crocodile · Oct 21, 2017

Aeana said:
Unfortunately, it seems that the only emulator that is playing this game completely correctly is bsnes v087. Very, very old. The newest Higan versions -- even with the Japanese ROM! -- don't seem to save/restore the RTC correctly, which is a major hit to this game. The modified snes9x also seems to have a similar issue. Correct functioning of the real-time clock is extremely important.

I really hope this can be sorted out soon.

Has someone told byuu?

Aeana · Oct 21, 2017

Sir_Crocodile said:
Has someone told byuu?

I poked him on Twitter but nothing yet.

Sir_Crocodile · Oct 21, 2017

Aeana said:
I poked him on Twitter but nothing yet.

Cool. Thanks for the heads up about v087, I wouldn't have thought to have tried that.

Nairume · Oct 21, 2017

I remember following the translation projects for this when I was in middle school. Now I'm at the tail end of a doctorate.

I guess all this leaves for major SFC games left untranslated are the four remaining MegaTens, the couple remaining Super Robot wars, and Fire Emblem 5.

Taruranto · Oct 21, 2017

Aeana said:
Unfortunately, it seems that the only emulator that is playing this game completely correctly is bsnes v087. Very, very old. The newest Higan versions -- even with the Japanese ROM! -- don't seem to save/restore the RTC correctly, which is a major hit to this game. The modified snes9x also seems to have a similar issue. Correct functioning of the real-time clock is extremely important.

I really hope this can be sorted out soon.

Did anyone try console emulators, like Vita's retroarch or the 3DS's one?

Sir_Crocodile · Oct 21, 2017

Nairume said:
I remember following the translation projects for this when I was in middle school. Now I'm at the tail end of a doctorate.

I guess all this leaves for major SFC games left untranslated are the four remaining MegaTens, the couple remaining Super Robot wars, and Fire Emblem 5.

There's about three dozen or so SFC JRPG's left to be translated. Hopefully they all get done at some point.

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